Aaron Ramsey - statistics and form etc.

[Barriecuda]

He hasn't been very good lately, and I'm a big supporter of his. Also cannot be reasonably expected to be a matchwinner at his age, with his inexperience. There's no way he should be in the starting XI of a team as (supposedly) ambitious as Arsenal. Just goes to show we don't have depth (or do you call players like Rosicky and Diaby, who play 1/3 of every season, deep?)

The whole "dearth of midfielders" is silly when we're so obviously shallow that we start Ramsey and our gamebreaking sub is Gnabry.

[Herd]

Ramsey isn't good enough for any team with title ambitions even as a back up.
Mannone isn't good enough for any team with title ambitions even as a back up.
Giroud isn't good enough for any team with title ambitions.
Gerhvinho isn't good enough for any team with title ambitions.
Jenkinson isn't good enough for any team with title ambitions.
Gibbs isn't good enough for any team with title ambitions.
Schezney isn't good enough for any team with title ambitions .
Vermaelen isn't good enough for any team with title ambitions.
Kos isn't good enough for any team with title ambitions.

I could go on but that would be harsh to some,lets face it we dont have a title winning squad end of !

[GranadaJoe]

You don't think we'll win the PL this year then?

[DarylAFC]

Ramsey isn't good enough for any team with title ambitions even as a back up.
Mannone isn't good enough for any team with title ambitions even as a back up.
Giroud isn't good enough for any team with title ambitions.
Gerhvinho isn't good enough for any team with title ambitions.
Jenkinson isn't good enough for any team with title ambitions.
Gibbs isn't good enough for any team with title ambitions.
Schezney isn't good enough for any team with title ambitions .
Vermaelen isn't good enough for any team with title ambitions.
Kos isn't good enough for any team with title ambitions.

I could go on but that would be harsh to some,lets face it we dont have a title winning squad end of !

Have you seen Jenkinson lately? I still say Giroud will come good, but the clock is ticking. Vermaelen and Koscielny are good but for some reason are so out of form. Scez is a good keeper IMO but we need a good quality back up.

[highburyJD]

I thought Gibbs and Jenkinson have gone a long way to changing peoples minds about their level...
def have with me
Giroud has only just started his Arsenal career, he's lacking confidence at the moment, lets hope he can turn it round

Saying Vermaelen and Kos aren't good enough is pretty silly, a few poor games doesn't make a bad player
I've seen Kompany look seriously dodgy several times recently - he was IMO the best defender in the world last season

Rambo has been inconsistent - great v Citeh, tragic v Canaries
I haven't analysed the stats but my initial feeling was Wenger brings him in as extra legs v strong opposition who can hold the beall - could mean the stats would be naturally skewed against him to some extent. Doesn't make them OK or acceptable but would qualify them somewhat...

[dPmunky]

To be honest, it's been too long since I've seen him on the first team but he's looked good in the reserves the last week or so.

I guess we can put it all to bed when he gets back actually playing with the first team.

...soon

[DarylAFC]

To be honest, it's been too long since I've seen him on the first team but he's looked good in the reserves the last week or so.

I guess we can put it all to bed when he gets back actually playing with the first team.

...soon

He's played a lot this season...

Well, kind of.

[Herd]

Jenkinson has improved greatly he's now an average-ish premier league player now as are most of the squad ,we have very few above average players ,not enough to make a title challenge and possibly not enough to maintain the status quo.

[highburyJD]

Jenkinson has improved greatly he's now an average-ish premier league player

you think half of Prem teams have a better RB thank Jenks?
I dont... Ivanovic actually now looks better at RB than his original position
Rafael has improved a lot, Zabaleta is rock solid
who else is better?
I think Jenks is in with a shout for the England team - not a million miles a way from Johnson or Walker
Even if you accept all of those are better he's top 25%...
Maybe the Prem hasn't got that many great RBs but Corporal Jenks is above average

[northbank123]

I'm not saying he's better than all the rest but I'd take Jenkinson ahead of Rafael, he's a calamity defensively. Just an attacking player playing full-back, like Andre Santos but fast and not 20 stone.

[Gunnersaurus]

Ramsey is the only player that makes Denilson look good.

[dPmunky]

To be honest, it's been too long since I've seen him on the first team

I guess that is to say playing more then 10 -20 minutes at a clip. It seems to me that when he is on, his performances are somewhat "forgettable"

[the playing mantis]

spot on herd, jenko has now progressed to average. from completely gash. he is encouarging but has a hell of a long way to go.

as for other right backs jd, i would those u list plus walker and johnson are netter for starters, and i dare say jenko is of a similar level to the rbs of some of the smaller clubs, who i cannot name off the top of my head. i think if they were at arsenal and we saw them every week we would say the same about them. its a case of we all have the prettiest wife at home i think...

i think a lot of our opinions by the fact that we have endured such averganess over the last few years that we overhype players that rise above that.

as for tv he has been gash for a couple of seasons now, tbh, and i think everyone if they are really honest would admit as much.

[Number 5]

Think Ramsey think wider picture.

When was the last player since Fabregas that came to us with real potential and went on to fulfil that promise? Van Persie?

It just don't happen any more.

Walcott. Went backwards
Diaby. Went backwards
Denilson. Went backwards
Nasri. Stayed the same
Vela. Went backwards
Bendtner. Went backwards
Ramsey. Went backwards

Can't see it happening with Oxlade-Chamberlain, Giroud or Gervinho of the most recent buys.

Arsenal is an elephants graveyard for football potential these days. Unless you're Wilshere with such supreme footballing talent that it can never be coached out of you.

Ramsey ain't got a mother fucking chance. Never did once the whole outlook of the club changed.

[SteveO 35]

Diaby. Went backwards

Are you telling me that the Great Abou was actually even better than he is now once upon a time

I find that hard to believe