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Re: Arsene Wenger Points of View.

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The fukin Modstasi have merged ANOTHER thread. :shock: Must have fuk all else to do now Baba and Red have been banned :wink: :lol:
FFS is there any point starting a new thread? The fuckers either change the name or merge it. Nazis!! :wink: :lol:

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Another Wenger myth is that he is somehow GOOD with young players? I'd love to see the evidence...

This new Next Gen series team which is up against the best in Europe in a Champions League format:

lost 1-0 to Marseille yesterday and haven't scored in their last THREE games, over 280 mins since their last goal.

Who keeps telling us that we have the best young players?

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AJAAFC wrote:Another Wenger myth is that he is somehow GOOD with young players? I'd love to see the evidence...

This new Next Gen series team which is up against the best in Europe in a Champions League format:

lost 1-0 to Marseille yesterday and haven't scored in their last THREE games, over 280 mins since their last goal.

Who keeps telling us that we have the best young players?
Come on, mate - keep all the Wenger stuff in one place. No need for a new thread everytime someone wants to make a comment that has been made a million times. :banghead:

Merged.

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DB10GOONER wrote:
AJAAFC wrote:Another Wenger myth is that he is somehow GOOD with young players? I'd love to see the evidence...

This new Next Gen series team which is up against the best in Europe in a Champions League format:

lost 1-0 to Marseille yesterday and haven't scored in their last THREE games, over 280 mins since their last goal.

Who keeps telling us that we have the best young players?
Come on, mate - keep all the Wenger stuff in one place. No need for a new thread everytime someone wants to make a comment that has been made a million times. :banghead:

Merged.
Nazi :roll:

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flash gunner wrote:
DB10GOONER wrote:
AJAAFC wrote:Another Wenger myth is that he is somehow GOOD with young players? I'd love to see the evidence...

This new Next Gen series team which is up against the best in Europe in a Champions League format:

lost 1-0 to Marseille yesterday and haven't scored in their last THREE games, over 280 mins since their last goal.

Who keeps telling us that we have the best young players?
Come on, mate - keep all the Wenger stuff in one place. No need for a new thread everytime someone wants to make a comment that has been made a million times. :banghead:

Merged.
Nazi :roll:
Why, thank you. :barscarf:

Now do some fucking modding and stop lazing around like the junkie and the ladyboy! :cussing: :banghead:

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It was a comment on the Next Gen team not Wenger, although I did mention him... Apologies

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AJAAFC wrote:It was a comment on the Next Gen team not Wenger, although I did mention him... Apologies
No need for apologies mate.

But we will be sending CusamanoReaper round your gaff.

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Arsenal must stay united, Arsène Wenger tells grumpy supporters.

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arseofacrow wrote:Arsenal must sell to united, Arsène Wenger tells grumpy supporters.

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Fixed that for both you and Arsene, mate! :barscarf:


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uncontroversial to say Wengers not great at tactics or subs.
This thread seems to reveal a consensus his signings and player development skills are non existent.
What do people think he's good at? Even 2006-2012 his record of qualifying for, and getting out of, CL groups is impressive.
How does he do it?

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highburyJD wrote:uncontroversial to say Wengers not great at tactics or subs.
This thread seems to reveal a consensus his signings and player development skills are non existent.
What do people think he's good at? Even 2006-2012 his record of qualifying for, and getting out of, CL groups is impressive.
How does he do it?
Put simply the group stages are full of shit 3rd and 4th place teams. Even average teams get out of the group stages. It's when we get into the latter stages our level is exposed by the actual good teams in that shit competition. Thus, ONE CL final in 16 years...

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so we can dismiss Wenger's contribution in the CL groups, we get out of the groups because they're easy

There's lots said about his flaws: he can't buy players, can't develop young players, pays way too much money to existing rubbish players, has no tactical skill or ability to change the course of the match through substitutes.

I'm genuinely interested to know what posters here think Wenger IS good at...

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highburyJD wrote:so we can dismiss Wenger's contribution in the CL groups, we get out of the groups because they're easy

There's lots said about his flaws: he can't buy players, can't develop young players, pays way too much money to existing rubbish players, has no tactical skill or ability to change the course of the match through substitutes.

I'm genuinely interested to know what posters here think Wenger IS good at...

Personally, I think he USED TO BE good at spotting the diamond in the rough. The Henry’s, the Anelka’s, the Pires’s, The Freddies, the Vieira’s, the Petit’s - and to a certain extent having faith and taking a chance on players that had either not performed at other clubs or been wrongly and prematurely written off like Bergkamp and Overmars and Kanu. Whatever we think of these players overall, at some point they all made huge contributions to the club’s success. I also think he was good at motivating those players and making them believe in their ability (which now ironically is one of our main problems with shit like Denilson, Flappy, Benny etc etc believing they are world beaters!!).

Your question “what posters here think Wenger IS good at...” (and the way you qualify it beforehand) implies that you might think because Wenger was once right on a lot of things, he must always be right and we must now always have faith in him even after he has been proven wrong in most things since those days. Not having a pop at you but it smacks of blind faith, head in the sand type belief.

Wenger was the best manager in the world for brief periods between 1997-98 and 2001-2004, but that Arsene Wenger is long gone. He has not kept up with developments in the game, refusing to move with the times and bull-headedly insisting in believing blindly in his own (now flawed) philosophy.

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highburyJD wrote:so we can dismiss Wenger's contribution in the CL groups, we get out of the groups because they're easy
Not dismissing it but being realistic about it. They are not easy par se but we do get out of them because so many poor teams are in them due to the bloated overinflated nature of the competition. As I said, when we get away from these shit teams and face good teams we are quickly exposed as a quite average team. We are not shit, we are not brilliant, we are.... average.

And for a club of our stature that is not good enough. :(

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