There's no self congratulations about it mate......its about what football means to me as a fan. I've spent 20 years managing other people's money as my job. Football for me is nothing to do with that - its fun, its about cups, days at Wembley. I'll be far more gutted losing in the League Cup and FA Cup than the difference between 4th and 5th. Old fashioned? Maybe. Try telling that to my 12 year old who has gone to bed tonight with a fucking massive grin on his face knowing that all the Spurs shitebags he goes to school with were giving him shit at half time. If they finish 4th and we finish 6th but win a cup or two what will it mean - minor bragging rights for one year, we don't keep or sign the best players despite the myth of CL qualification ensuring that, and they would have the same chance as us of winning it next year i.e. none. Then the history books would show who won the cups, not who won some make believe 4th placed cup and got humped in the last 16Top Londoner wrote:SteveO 35 wrote:Rather have the chance of a day at Wembley to find out mate, rather than limping out of the San Siro in the last 16.Top Londoner wrote:Amazing how a League Cup game has produced 33 pages.
Agree steve0. I would be very happy to beat a Birmingham type team in the final,,,,, but we won't
I hope that tonight brings it home to people how exciting and important domestic cup football is, but sadly I doubt it. I mean how could that compete with UEFA's computer program working out our co-efficient and seeding for next year's snooze
You have been championing ANY silverware for a long time now tbh, so fair play pal
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I've read a few posts on this thread and it is unbelieveable. Some of the posters are soo anti wenger they've actually turned into him. Didn't i just witness the most impressive arsenal comeback i have witnessed in my lifetime? I mean they actually won the game from being 4 down away from home.
Instead of praising the team for pulling this game round, they get hammered for poor defending FFS. You are allowed to enjoy this amazing victory.
When have we been 4 down and turned it round?
It's a cup game doesn't matter how they won, they fucking won it. Come on The Arsenal game of the decade

Instead of praising the team for pulling this game round, they get hammered for poor defending FFS. You are allowed to enjoy this amazing victory.
When have we been 4 down and turned it round?
It's a cup game doesn't matter how they won, they fucking won it. Come on The Arsenal game of the decade



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i've always thought Giroud had good positioning and work rate, he's just fluffed a lot in front of goal.
i think he might be a player like RVP who took more than a season to settle in. That goal for France was class - positioning and technique.
it is only reading away in the shit cup but the squad will be buzzing after that ending - AW needs to keep it going, forehead is out for a month and pod is looking tired so how about swapping them for Giroud and Feo ?
and dropping Ramsay for Coq or Eisfield ?
i think he might be a player like RVP who took more than a season to settle in. That goal for France was class - positioning and technique.
it is only reading away in the shit cup but the squad will be buzzing after that ending - AW needs to keep it going, forehead is out for a month and pod is looking tired so how about swapping them for Giroud and Feo ?
and dropping Ramsay for Coq or Eisfield ?
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Err, again. No mention of Chamakh's 120 minute awesome CF play tonight in the 'tripping over themselves to praise Giroud' queueclockender1 wrote:i've always thought Giroud had good positioning and work rate, he's just fluffed a lot in front of goal.
i think he might be a player like RVP who took more than a season to settle in. That goal for France was class - positioning and technique.
it is only reading away in the shit cup but the squad will be buzzing after that ending - AW needs to keep it going, forehead is out for a month and pod is looking tired so how about swapping them for Giroud and Feo ?
and dropping Ramsay for Coq or Eisfield ?
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Should never have been 4-0 down in the first place but it was a great comeback albeit against the worst team in the league bur Reading could and should have put it to bed after half time. They were easily the better team for the first 10 minutes after the break but somehow we did it. Didnt deserve to win at all but im pleased with the fight the team showed, too bad we will get tanked at noon on saturday.
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SteveO 35 wrote:First person to give Chamakh some credit wins a virtual trophy
Come on now. I've given Le Chapman some praise for his header.......you can do it boys......two great finishes and the assist to take the game to extra time........can you do it......admit he's our best striker........have a try
Steve O if you look back a page or two you will see that I did give credit to chamakh and mentioned how scoring the goal gave him a visable lift in confidence



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I have to say I have always questioned the Camel being cast off like fag ash by Wenger, in no way am I saying I always believed in him, but I do think he was harshly cast out.augie wrote:SteveO 35 wrote:First person to give Chamakh some credit wins a virtual trophy
Come on now. I've given Le Chapman some praise for his header.......you can do it boys......two great finishes and the assist to take the game to extra time........can you do it......admit he's our best striker........have a try
Steve O if you look back a page or two you will see that I did give credit to chamakh and mentioned how scoring the goal gave him a visable lift in confidenceI actually went so far as to suggest that chamakh's failure's thus far have been down to wenger more than the guy himself but before you give me the prize can I tell you to stick your virtual trophy where the sun dont shine ?
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sorry Steve, i was following it on bbc text....SteveO 35 wrote:
Err, again. No mention of Chamakh's 120 minute awesome CF play tonight in the 'tripping over themselves to praise Giroud' queue

i only just saw the goals. a very nice dummy and placed shot from chamakh, and a world class finish from Feo.
if chamakh has done well, then i'm pleased for him - he showed real promise while rvp was injured and then did a kevin campbell/andy cole on us and he has been dire.
i couldn't see from the feed, but who had the goal that reading cleared from behind the line, and who volleyed it in ? - nice volley too...
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Feo scored, Jenks followed up just in case. Walnut ultimately awarded goal.clockender1 wrote: i couldn't see from the feed, but who had the goal that reading cleared from behind the line, and who volleyed it in ? - nice volley too...

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Just home. I supposed you can't scoff when you've just seen 12 goals for £15, including two from Chamakh!
First half, truly abysmal. You'll see better from pub teams on Hackney Marshes, I was ready to crack some skulls.
Second half better, seemed to change when Giroud came on although i was still convinced we'd concede every time they ventured over our half way line. Honestly, have you ever seen such bad defending? Thought Theo and Andrey were excellent, also thought that Chamakh played quite well too. Fair play to em for digging it out and getting the result, although part of me feels it lets them (and Wenger) off the hook somewhat for the abomination that was the first half. Also think it was a somewhat fortunate result, the kind of comeback that we'd probably only produce maybe once in ten attempts.
But hey ho, we won and I'm pleased. Onwards and upwards, I would still like to win even the league cup. Thanks.
First half, truly abysmal. You'll see better from pub teams on Hackney Marshes, I was ready to crack some skulls.
Second half better, seemed to change when Giroud came on although i was still convinced we'd concede every time they ventured over our half way line. Honestly, have you ever seen such bad defending? Thought Theo and Andrey were excellent, also thought that Chamakh played quite well too. Fair play to em for digging it out and getting the result, although part of me feels it lets them (and Wenger) off the hook somewhat for the abomination that was the first half. Also think it was a somewhat fortunate result, the kind of comeback that we'd probably only produce maybe once in ten attempts.
But hey ho, we won and I'm pleased. Onwards and upwards, I would still like to win even the league cup. Thanks.
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thanks. nice effort from Jenko.littlefire wrote:Feo scored, Jenks followed up just in case. Walnut ultimately awarded goal.clockender1 wrote: i couldn't see from the feed, but who had the goal that reading cleared from behind the line, and who volleyed it in ? - nice volley too...
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Watching the game again. It's amazing how much of our good play (second half) went through Arshavin. He set up at least 3 of our goals and his work rate off the ball was pretty decent.
Quite simply his best position is central. Wenger screwed up by not deploying him there last season when we were seriously lacking in that area. He'll never get in my first team ahead of Carzorla but IMO is a decent backup playing that attacking midfield role especially now that Jack is back and can cover defensively along with Arteta if the little maestro Santi is injured.
Great response from the guys. I'll leave my own personal feelings towards the manager and board aside and just be chuffed with still being in the hat. I think a big plus is the coming back from the 5-5 goal. After getting back from 4 goals down we could have just sat and waited for penalties but we kept pushing.
Quite simply his best position is central. Wenger screwed up by not deploying him there last season when we were seriously lacking in that area. He'll never get in my first team ahead of Carzorla but IMO is a decent backup playing that attacking midfield role especially now that Jack is back and can cover defensively along with Arteta if the little maestro Santi is injured.
Great response from the guys. I'll leave my own personal feelings towards the manager and board aside and just be chuffed with still being in the hat. I think a big plus is the coming back from the 5-5 goal. After getting back from 4 goals down we could have just sat and waited for penalties but we kept pushing.
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Just got home now. Diabolical defending in the first half but great effort by the boys in the second half to pull it back.
A lot of frustration aimed at the board with a few chants and hopefully it will continue in other games.
How did we sound on the telly btw? Hoping we came across as being fairly vocal. Some decent banter with the Reading fans.
A lot of frustration aimed at the board with a few chants and hopefully it will continue in other games.
How did we sound on the telly btw? Hoping we came across as being fairly vocal. Some decent banter with the Reading fans.
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Couldnt hear the Reading fans at all, all you could hear was you guysMM99 wrote:Just got home now. Diabolical defending in the first half but great effort by the boys in the second half to pull it back.
A lot of frustration aimed at the board with a few chants and hopefully it will continue in other games.
How did we sound on the telly btw? Hoping we came across as being fairly vocal. Some decent banter with the Reading fans.
