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OneBardGooner
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mcdowell42
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Re: Arsene Wenger Points of View.
For the love of god just fuck off you total *word censored* Ivan and take kronke and wenger with you
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northbank123
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Re: Arsene Wenger Points of View.
He made the same comment in the AGM and given the media interest I couldn't believe it wasn't picked up on. He basically said that in 2 years time we'll be able to compete with anybody in world football financially (sound familiar?). Not only is the lying fucking despicable, it's also become insulting and embarrassing.
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mcdowell42
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Re: Arsene Wenger Points of View.
northbank123 wrote:He made the same comment in the AGM and given the media interest I couldn't believe it wasn't picked up on. He basically said that in 2 years time we'll be able to compete with anybody in world football financially (sound familiar?). Not only is the lying fucking despicable, it's also become insulting and embarrassing.
A trait other people at the club have in great abundance also.
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falkirk goon
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Re: Arsene Wenger Points of View.
Three dirty *word censored* all in a row at the top
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I Hate Hleb
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Re: Arsene Wenger Points of View.
Nothing new here. It's a rehashed story using comments Gazidis made before the AGM.
Re: Arsene Wenger Points of View.
Hm, reading a lot about revenue and these kind of things. Are you going to open a financial institute?falkirk goon wrote:Three dirty *word censored* all in a row at the top
The problem with a statement 'in two, three years' is that other clubs are also moving forward.
http://www.deloitte.com/view/en_GB/uk/i ... 0aRCRD.htm
Bayern Munich just announced yesterday record high revenue.
Cheers,
Thomas
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Wengerball
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Re: Arsene Wenger Points of View.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... enger.html
Arsene Wenger says he has no regrets about missing out on Zlatan Ibrahimovic when he came to Arsenal for a trial aged 16.
The Paris St German superstar made headlines this week when he scored four goals - one of which now sits among history's greatest - in Sweden's win over England.
The subsequent clamour over Ibrahimovic bought back into focus one of his most famous quotes, in which he allegedly told Wenger that 'he doesn't do trials' after being invited to Highbury in 2000.
A young Cristiano Ronaldo is another to have been looked at by the club, while Yaya Toure enjoyed a lengthy trial while still plying his trade in Belgium.
Ibrahimovic eventually joined Ajax, and has gone on to win league titles with AC Milan, Barcelona and Inter, while commanding transfer fees in excess of £150million. He's also bagged three goals against the Gunners to knock them out of the Champions League.
Wenger, though, insists he doesn't look back ruefully on the day the Swede got away.
The Frenchman said: 'He was here at the training ground and went somewhere else. That has happened to many players - Ronaldo was here, Ibrahimovic was here. It does not mean they sign for you.
'The story is true I wanted to see him. I did not know him, you cannot sign players you have not seen at all because it is not serious.
'He was 16. I asked him to have a little training session with the first team and he didn't want to do it.
'Do I regret it? No. I will continue to do that unless our scouts have seen the player and says, "look he is absolutely 100 per cent". I trust them.
'But when somebody says he has some quality, you want at least to see, otherwise you would not be serious.'
Reflecting on Ibrahimovic's stunning acrobatic strike in stoppage time at the end of Wednesday's international friendly, Wenger was stunned.
He added: 'I am more a fan of team goals than of individual goals, but I must say it was exceptional. It was a fantastic combination of flexibility, strength and skill.
Sometimes, when a guy has a shot from 30 yards and puts it in the top corner, you say "it's a fantastic goal" - but somehow you believe you can do that as well, even if you cannot do it on a consistent level.
'But when he scores a goal like that, you think it’s impossible for a normal athlete. You have to be an exceptional athlete to do that.
'They say he’s a master in kung fu. You could see that on Wednesday night. You need some special flexibility, subtleness and physical strength to do that, apart from the fact that you have to realise what you have to do.
'He was also in zone, where you have no confidence problem at all. He had scored three goals before, and was on a day where everything becomes easy. It happens in every sport.
'To get into that zone, you need to have success before that in the game. Was it at 1-0 down or 0-0, in the last minute of the game, would he have tried it? Would he have scored? I am not sure.
'It shows you how important it is to get that confidence in our sport, to just do things with a freedom of spirit without any handbrake.'
These two quotes are my favourite -The question must be asked which scouts said they were 100% on the signings of Gervinho and Park
The return of the handbrake
In all seriousness you have to wonder how our scouting team let talent like Ronaldo slip through the net? It only took Fergie and Manure 90 minutes of the guy in action in a friendly and he was signing on the dotted line at United. What is also equally baffling is how they saw star quality in the likes of Denilson.
Arsene Wenger says he has no regrets about missing out on Zlatan Ibrahimovic when he came to Arsenal for a trial aged 16.
The Paris St German superstar made headlines this week when he scored four goals - one of which now sits among history's greatest - in Sweden's win over England.
The subsequent clamour over Ibrahimovic bought back into focus one of his most famous quotes, in which he allegedly told Wenger that 'he doesn't do trials' after being invited to Highbury in 2000.
A young Cristiano Ronaldo is another to have been looked at by the club, while Yaya Toure enjoyed a lengthy trial while still plying his trade in Belgium.
Ibrahimovic eventually joined Ajax, and has gone on to win league titles with AC Milan, Barcelona and Inter, while commanding transfer fees in excess of £150million. He's also bagged three goals against the Gunners to knock them out of the Champions League.
Wenger, though, insists he doesn't look back ruefully on the day the Swede got away.
The Frenchman said: 'He was here at the training ground and went somewhere else. That has happened to many players - Ronaldo was here, Ibrahimovic was here. It does not mean they sign for you.
'The story is true I wanted to see him. I did not know him, you cannot sign players you have not seen at all because it is not serious.
'He was 16. I asked him to have a little training session with the first team and he didn't want to do it.
'Do I regret it? No. I will continue to do that unless our scouts have seen the player and says, "look he is absolutely 100 per cent". I trust them.
'But when somebody says he has some quality, you want at least to see, otherwise you would not be serious.'
Reflecting on Ibrahimovic's stunning acrobatic strike in stoppage time at the end of Wednesday's international friendly, Wenger was stunned.
He added: 'I am more a fan of team goals than of individual goals, but I must say it was exceptional. It was a fantastic combination of flexibility, strength and skill.
Sometimes, when a guy has a shot from 30 yards and puts it in the top corner, you say "it's a fantastic goal" - but somehow you believe you can do that as well, even if you cannot do it on a consistent level.
'But when he scores a goal like that, you think it’s impossible for a normal athlete. You have to be an exceptional athlete to do that.
'They say he’s a master in kung fu. You could see that on Wednesday night. You need some special flexibility, subtleness and physical strength to do that, apart from the fact that you have to realise what you have to do.
'He was also in zone, where you have no confidence problem at all. He had scored three goals before, and was on a day where everything becomes easy. It happens in every sport.
'To get into that zone, you need to have success before that in the game. Was it at 1-0 down or 0-0, in the last minute of the game, would he have tried it? Would he have scored? I am not sure.
'It shows you how important it is to get that confidence in our sport, to just do things with a freedom of spirit without any handbrake.'
These two quotes are my favourite -The question must be asked which scouts said they were 100% on the signings of Gervinho and Park
The return of the handbrake
In all seriousness you have to wonder how our scouting team let talent like Ronaldo slip through the net? It only took Fergie and Manure 90 minutes of the guy in action in a friendly and he was signing on the dotted line at United. What is also equally baffling is how they saw star quality in the likes of Denilson.
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highburyJD
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Re: Arsene Wenger Points of View.
jumping from less than £20M sponsorship (£5.5M and £13M) to hopefully move than £45MTomáš wrote:Hm, reading a lot about revenue and these kind of things. Are you going to open a financial institute?
The problem with a statement 'in two, three years' is that other clubs are also moving forward.
is a bigger improvement than anyone else will make
also I think the shirt sponsor '£5.5M' was long spent
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northbank123
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Re: Arsene Wenger Points of View.
Exactly! I hope not, although at least we might win a trophy then, even if it is for being the tightest bastards around.Tomáš wrote:Hm, reading a lot about revenue and these kind of things. Are you going to open a financial institute?falkirk goon wrote:Three dirty *word censored* all in a row at the top
The problem with a statement 'in two, three years' is that other clubs are also moving forward.
http://www.deloitte.com/view/en_GB/uk/i ... 0aRCRD.htm
Bayern Munich just announced yesterday record high revenue.
Cheers,
Thomas
Haven't Bayern posted something like 20 consecutive years of profit? Remember hearing that their record is pretty immense.
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flash gunner
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Re: Arsene Wenger Points of View.
Spot on mateTomáš wrote:Hm, reading a lot about revenue and these kind of things. Are you going to open a financial institute?falkirk goon wrote:Three dirty *word censored* all in a row at the top
The problem with a statement 'in two, three years' is that other clubs are also moving forward.
Cheers,
Thomas
Didnt you know Wenger is an economist
fuck being all that solely a football manager shit and youre totally right about 'in 2 years time' we're always going to be nearly there, in 2 years time it will be due to unforeseen circumstances we're still 2 years away..... All the sponsorship things will be worth less if we arent as good you have to speculate to accumulate
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highburyJD
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Re: Arsene Wenger Points of View.
if the only way to attain improvement is investment,
then yes, us getting more money through the new sponsorship deals won't help
- others will always have more money
we have to improve everything - I think our defensive personnel are mostly quite good
but for whatever reason they are currently
a) less than the sum of their parts and
b) making horrific individual errors
Our off pitch comparative commercial weakness gives us the opportunity to make a leap forward
our on-pitch under performance does too
the only way is up
then yes, us getting more money through the new sponsorship deals won't help
- others will always have more money
we have to improve everything - I think our defensive personnel are mostly quite good
but for whatever reason they are currently
a) less than the sum of their parts and
b) making horrific individual errors
Our off pitch comparative commercial weakness gives us the opportunity to make a leap forward
our on-pitch under performance does too
the only way is up
Re: Arsene Wenger Points of View.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1J_bwBG1feE
Piers get a lot of abuse for his Twitter postings, but he's actually bang on with most of the things he says in the press regarding Arsenal.
Piers get a lot of abuse for his Twitter postings, but he's actually bang on with most of the things he says in the press regarding Arsenal.
Re: Arsene Wenger Points of View.
He is - I don't know why Gooners give him such a hard time. He wants Gazidis and Wenger gone tomorrow, and thinks Hill-Wood is a prat of the highest order. Can't say I disagree with any of thatN1Goon wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1J_bwBG1feE
Piers get a lot of abuse for his Twitter postings, but he's actually bang on with most of the things he says in the press regarding Arsenal.
Re: Arsene Wenger Points of View.
He's absolutely spot on.N1Goon wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1J_bwBG1feE
Piers get a lot of abuse for his Twitter postings, but he's actually bang on with most of the things he says in the press regarding Arsenal.
