Mourinho yes or no?

[Steve_I]

Said no, not because I can't stand him - I find him quite e4ntertaining - but for similar reasons to Top Londoner above who said it as well as anyone could with 'spendthrift egomaniac'

as i said how did he win the CL with Porto with no money?

Coz some of the players he had back then became world class players, he was lucky enought to be just in the right moment and in the right place, that was it. His team won the CL, not him.

The year Jose won the CL was the year of the Invincibles when we had world class players.Inter didnt come close to winning the CL before he arrived and havent since he left.I suppose it was just luck he won titles in 4 countries as well.
19 trophies in 10 years.Just happened to be in the right place bit like Sir Alex

I know some dont like him as a man but dont come up with excuses as to why he won so much.Its a bit like us saying Wenger was lucky from 98 to 05

And augie you would have Martinez before Jose

bang on the point with that post

I also said no because I, of course, don't think wenger should go.

[Barriecuda]

Yes, absolutely no question. One of the greatest managers in the game. And to be totally honest, I enjoy his eccentricity. He connects with some players on an incredibly deep level, I don't think it's any coincidence for example that Sneijder became one of the best players in all of world football in the time he was with Inter. Diego Milito is another example, a completely different player under Mourinho and never the same since.

[clockender1]

no.

he might be good for the two years he's here, but after that what then ?

harry redknapp ?

[Herd]

Didn't vote ,he's going to City or somewhere else but not to Arsenal .

With our parsimonious attitude to spending we will not attract top draw people ,
more worryingly perhaps for me though ,is that the people who will make that appointment IE Gazidis and Kroenke know absolutely nothing about football whatsoever.

We could and up with the perennial EPL flotsam like hughes ,alladice,rednap etc

[Only One Tony Adams]

No. Mourinho is a lound mouth *word censored*. Why would he come to us anyway ?

[DB10GOONER]

Augie, I take your points about Moron-hio. In a lot of ways you are very like me. Ok, not exactly like me; you're not a handsome bastard, nor do you have any hair, ( ) but we are both old skool Gooners that grew up with Arsenal in the 70's and 80's. I too long for the days when The Arsenal were the club that oozed class and tradition (the club blazers, the proper crest with Gothic typeface, the latin motto, the players sleeve lengths being dictated by the captain, Highbury and the way it looked like no other stadium, the Commisionaires on the doors, the Marble Halls, doing things The Arsenal Way), but in all honesty that stuff is gone, mate. And sure, to some ignorant twats that stuff might seem silly or pointless, but to us lot that grew up with it, it never seemed silly or pointless and was something to cherish about our great club.

The game in general has changed too much, we now have clueless little arsehole wannabe rappers/gangstas as players, clubs pimped by billionaire crooks, managers that think they are bigger than their clubs, JCL fans that only want a desensitised, polite experience at the "soccer" with a nice big comfy seat and overpriced hotdogs.

So I think now it's time to say fuck it, yeah Moron-hio is a classless arrogant twat, but so is Arsene Wenger, but at least Moron-hio would restore the silverware - we both know Arsene never will. Our image as the classy club is long gone, ably helped to it's grave by Arsene's bizarre comments and behaviour as much by our Board selling out our heritage and tradition with cartoon crests, lego identikit stadium and scruffy tracksuit wearing players on match days.

As I say, Moron-hio would not be my first choice but if it meant getting rid of Wenger then fuck yeah, I'd take him...

[begeegs]

Didn't vote ,he's going to City or somewhere else but not to Arsenal .

With our parsimonious attitude to spending we will not attract top draw people ,
more worryingly perhaps for me though ,is that the people who will make that appointment IE Gazidis and Kroenke know absolutely nothing about football whatsoever.

We could and up with the perennial EPL flotsam like hughes ,alladice,rednap etc

I'd take him in a heartbeat, but I suspect City or Chelsea for Jose.

[begeegs]

Yeah but not if we completely fall off the radar this year I don't think. The man isn't an egomaniac but is he going to risk damaging his fine reputation by coming to a club that will probably be in a downward spiral? The only thing 4th place is useful for given our dismal CL record is to attract the best manager available and allow him to attract better players. Unfortunately in Wenger's eyes it's also a huge success and grounds for staying in a job and attracting players like Park and Gervinho, so it's a paradox.

Plus I think we'll be stuck with Wenger until at least 2014. After all this is his first poor season ever What's even worse is I bet he'll stay on at the end of this pathetic excuse for a season and make out he's doing us the favour in seeing out his contract.

I don't see how falling off the radar has much of an impact on who we can attract. We have a brand new stadium with incredibly patient fans. We pay excellent wages. We have good players, but with coaching would be even better. We have money to spend (unless Wenger goes out and buys a bunch of rot). We are a big club. We sell out practically every home match and probably away.

For Pep, there is also the fact that he would be given the power to do what he needs to do without distractions from the board or a politician in charge like at Barcelona.

I don't see how any coach wouldn't want to come here. It isn't like Liverpool where you know that the finances aren't there.

Will he come here? It is a possibility, but only if results keep going south and Wenger resigns and fucks off to PSG (Please, pretty please!!!)

[northbank123]

Yeah but not if we completely fall off the radar this year I don't think. The man isn't an egomaniac but is he going to risk damaging his fine reputation by coming to a club that will probably be in a downward spiral? The only thing 4th place is useful for given our dismal CL record is to attract the best manager available and allow him to attract better players. Unfortunately in Wenger's eyes it's also a huge success and grounds for staying in a job and attracting players like Park and Gervinho, so it's a paradox.

Plus I think we'll be stuck with Wenger until at least 2014. After all this is his first poor season ever What's even worse is I bet he'll stay on at the end of this pathetic excuse for a season and make out he's doing us the favour in seeing out his contract.

I don't see how falling off the radar has much of an impact on who we can attract. We have a brand new stadium with incredibly patient fans. We pay excellent wages. We have good players, but with coaching would be even better. We have money to spend (unless Wenger goes out and buys a bunch of rot). We are a big club. We sell out practically every home match and probably away.

For Pep, there is also the fact that he would be given the power to do what he needs to do without distractions from the board or a politician in charge like at Barcelona.

I don't see how any coach wouldn't want to come here. It isn't like Liverpool where you know that the finances aren't there.

Will he come here? It is a possibility, but only if results keep going south and Wenger resigns and fucks off to PSG (Please, pretty please!!!)

The likelihood is our squad will probably have lost one or two more players by the time a new manager is finally sought. And it's hardly like there's a guarantee that we will spend serious sums of money while the current board and majority shareholder are there. We're not talking about £20-30m, if we're looking to turn our team round into one remotely capable of a title challenge even with shrewd purchases and a great manager we're looking more like £70m+.

[begeegs]

The likelihood is our squad will probably have lost one or two more players by the time a new manager is finally sought. And it's hardly like there's a guarantee that we will spend serious sums of money while the current board and majority shareholder are there. We're not talking about £20-30m, if we're looking to turn our team round into one remotely capable of a title challenge even with shrewd purchases and a great manager we're looking more like £70m+.

We will lose Walcott and Sagna next year without question, however, surely the board will know that despite this 30,000+ season ticket renewal list will shrink substantially once prices stay the same and we don't attract a top manager with little to no investment. They may have attracted the sponsors, but will they hold the same demand?

I just can't see how they can't invest and hire wisely especially with ticket prices being so high, unless they decide to cut prices on tickets.

[northbank123]

The likelihood is our squad will probably have lost one or two more players by the time a new manager is finally sought. And it's hardly like there's a guarantee that we will spend serious sums of money while the current board and majority shareholder are there. We're not talking about £20-30m, if we're looking to turn our team round into one remotely capable of a title challenge even with shrewd purchases and a great manager we're looking more like £70m+.

We will lose Walcott and Sagna next year without question, however, surely the board will know that despite this 30,000+ season ticket renewal list will shrink substantially once prices stay the same and we don't attract a top manager with little to no investment. They may have attracted the sponsors, but will they hold the same demand?

I just can't see how they can't invest and hire wisely especially with ticket prices being so high, unless they decide to cut prices on tickets.

Surely the board also realises that selling your best players every year and replacing them with inferior ones, coupled with a spiralling wage bill (including paying a perennial failure of a manager far more than any of his counterparts) and ever-increasing ticket prices can't be justified by trotting out the same old lines about self-sustainability and Financial Fair Play?????

I wouldn't count on anything with this lot mate.

[supergeorgegraham]

He is simply class. Yes his football is defensive but he gets results and does what he says he is going to do.

[Barriecuda]

He is simply class. Yes his football is defensive but he gets results and does what he says he is going to do.

I don't understand why defensive football is considered so bad (not saying you do, just speaking generally)

I mean a game that's like 5-4 might be entertaining, but if I wanted to watch leagues that were all about goals, I'd watch the Brasileirao or the Eredivisie...

If it won a league trophy, I doubt many of us would mind a return to the days of "1-0 to the Arsenal'.

[augie]

He is simply class. Yes his football is defensive but he gets results and does what he says he is going to do.

I don't understand why defensive football is considered so bad (not saying you do, just speaking generally)

I mean a game that's like 5-4 might be entertaining, but if I wanted to watch leagues that were all about goals, I'd watch the Brasileirao or the Eredivisie...

If it won a league trophy, I doubt many of us would mind a return to the days of "1-0 to the Arsenal'.

I said the other day that I dont mind the negative football his team plays and GG and his negative football provided some of my best moments as a Gooner His attitude stinks for me and he is just an all round arrogant w****r albeit a successful w****r

[StuartL]

The GG era was my era of watching Arsenal, so I would take a manager who can do tactics, motivate players, outhink the opposition and make match winning substitutes.

However him as a person (manager as I don't personally know him) I can't stand.