BSM March before Swansea

[Deleerious]

Interesting letter this...

http://fansonline.net/arsenal/article.php?id=813

It will be Wenger's decision to resign Henry and not spend the money if it happens, as it always has been. Not the boards decision at all.

Interesting statement that. Always sat heavy with me when Ivan says "Arsene has the money to spend it, as he wants" then AW comes out with "I do the best with the players at my disposal"... Something doesn't quite add up for me.

[N1Goon]

A few of us, including some of the Gooner fanzine writers believe that Wenger has genuinely gone insane. In my opinion this is the most likely scenario, and I believe that once he is removed from the club a lot of very interesting stories will surface.

We hear bits and pieces about his social life and some of the occurrences behind the scene and for me, this cannot be simply thrown under the carpet and forgotten about. Affairs, infighting, social cliques, lack of tactical knowledge. This is why we are failing on the pitch.

Arsene Wenger, is, in my opinion, an egotistical maniac who has more money and power then sense and happily allows disgruntled fans to scapegoat players and the board if it means an extension of his reign of terror.


These are his last fateful days at Monaco all over again, only this time, he has a powerless board that have signed of all responsibilities to him.


Sorry if I sound like a jumped up Sun writer but I feel very passionately about the current situation and I am just giving it to you straight

[northbank123]

Over time I think everybody's view has changed from Wenger carrying the can for the board's refusal to spend to acknowledging that he refuses to spend the extent of the funds available.

Don't get me wrong, the board aren't releasing the funds that our rivals are, far from it, and in any case if they were prudent they'd be urging Wenger to spend what money is available because we desperately need to! But there's no way they've insisted that we keep turning such huge profits.

If our next manager even enquires about the balance sheet he should be castrated.

[hugh jardon]

Arsenal Canada co-chair and local pundit Morgan Rubes calls out the Black Scarf Movement in his latest contribution to small-time local podcast "Premier Punditry":

http://www.premierpunditry.com/?powerpr ... 18-podcast - Starts @ 5:57

"...Every time Arsenal lose I get more and more desperate for silverware and I lean more and more to agreeing with some of the people I despise, that are doing things like the Black Scarf March [sic] that I think are destabilizing forces; the Black Scarf March being where before the Swansea match, fans marched and boo'd management and chanted against management..."

How would you reply to that, Black Scarf members? Just curious.

So a Czech living in Canada 3500 miles away from London but "supporting" Arsenal (in fact Chairman of Arsenal Canada supporters club) says he "despises" things like the Black Scarf march. The march that was attended by many of Arsenal's most dyed in the wool, vociferous and local supporters.

Living so far away from the club he "supports" I cannot imagine that Mr Rubes is personally affected by the issues BSM is trying to address such as ticket prices, atmosphere improvements, supporter facilities and boardroom issues. He simply has no right to pass judgement.

Perhaps he is more qualified to speak out on a subject a little closer to home rather than make judgements on real fans who are putting their hands in their pockets and not watching via satellite or laptop thousands of miles away.

[shu]

Maybe someone should tell Morgan Pubes about this site !

[SurreyGooner]

Arsenal Canada co-chair and local pundit Morgan Rubes calls out the Black Scarf Movement in his latest contribution to small-time local podcast "Premier Punditry":

http://www.premierpunditry.com/?powerpr ... 18-podcast - Starts @ 5:57

"...Every time Arsenal lose I get more and more desperate for silverware and I lean more and more to agreeing with some of the people I despise, that are doing things like the Black Scarf March [sic] that I think are destabilizing forces; the Black Scarf March being where before the Swansea match, fans marched and boo'd management and chanted against management..."

How would you reply to that, Black Scarf members? Just curious.

So a Czech living in Canada 3500 miles away from London but "supporting" Arsenal (in fact Chairman of Arsenal Canada supporters club) says he "despises" things like the Black Scarf march. The march that was attended by many of Arsenal's most dyed in the wool, vociferous and local supporters.

Living so far away from the club he "supports" I cannot imagine that Mr Rubes is personally affected by the issues BSM is trying to address such as ticket prices, atmosphere improvements, supporter facilities and boardroom issues. He simply has no right to pass judgement.

Perhaps he is more qualified to speak out on a subject a little closer to home rather than make judgements on real fans who are putting their hands in their pockets and not watching via satellite or laptop thousands of miles away.

Nail on the head

[N1Goon]

Arsenal Canada co-chair and local pundit Morgan Rubes calls out the Black Scarf Movement in his latest contribution to small-time local podcast "Premier Punditry":

http://www.premierpunditry.com/?powerpr ... 18-podcast - Starts @ 5:57

"...Every time Arsenal lose I get more and more desperate for silverware and I lean more and more to agreeing with some of the people I despise, that are doing things like the Black Scarf March [sic] that I think are destabilizing forces; the Black Scarf March being where before the Swansea match, fans marched and boo'd management and chanted against management..."

How would you reply to that, Black Scarf members? Just curious.

So a Czech living in Canada 3500 miles away from London but "supporting" Arsenal (in fact Chairman of Arsenal Canada supporters club) says he "despises" things like the Black Scarf march. The march that was attended by many of Arsenal's most dyed in the wool, vociferous and local supporters.

Living so far away from the club he "supports" I cannot imagine that Mr Rubes is personally affected by the issues BSM is trying to address such as ticket prices, atmosphere improvements, supporter facilities and boardroom issues. He simply has no right to pass judgement.

Perhaps he is more qualified to speak out on a subject a little closer to home rather than make judgements on real fans who are putting their hands in their pockets and not watching via satellite or laptop thousands of miles away.

Very right you are, I don't mind us having a foreign fan-base but if they spout nonsensical, pravda-approved soundbites like Pubes here and have a go at the fans that I consider to be 'real' Arsenal fans, I get a tad bit riled!


You despise us Pubes? Well, we despise Wengerite lap-dogs who come once a year and buy a home shirt from the Armory like yourself.

[MegaGooner]

So a Czech living in Canada isn't afforded his opinion(BTW I don't agree with him).....so we get.....fuc.k these foreigners.
I find it funnier that we had Gooners(from London(maybe even Islington)snicker) surpporting Chel$ki to win the Champions League last season......wtf

[Barriecuda]

Arsenal Canada co-chair and local pundit Morgan Rubes calls out the Black Scarf Movement in his latest contribution to small-time local podcast "Premier Punditry":

http://www.premierpunditry.com/?powerpr ... 18-podcast - Starts @ 5:57

"...Every time Arsenal lose I get more and more desperate for silverware and I lean more and more to agreeing with some of the people I despise, that are doing things like the Black Scarf March [sic] that I think are destabilizing forces; the Black Scarf March being where before the Swansea match, fans marched and boo'd management and chanted against management..."

How would you reply to that, Black Scarf members? Just curious.

So a Czech living in Canada 3500 miles away from London but "supporting" Arsenal (in fact Chairman of Arsenal Canada supporters club) says he "despises" things like the Black Scarf march. The march that was attended by many of Arsenal's most dyed in the wool, vociferous and local supporters.

Living so far away from the club he "supports" I cannot imagine that Mr Rubes is personally affected by the issues BSM is trying to address such as ticket prices, atmosphere improvements, supporter facilities and boardroom issues. He simply has no right to pass judgement.

Perhaps he is more qualified to speak out on a subject a little closer to home rather than make judgements on real fans who are putting their hands in their pockets and not watching via satellite or laptop thousands of miles away.

Very right you are, I don't mind us having a foreign fan-base but if they spout nonsensical, pravda-approved soundbites like Pubes here and have a go at the fans that I consider to be 'real' Arsenal fans, I get a tad bit riled!


You despise us Pubes? Well, we despise Wengerite lap-dogs who come once a year and buy a home shirt from the Armory like yourself.

To be fair he was speaking in that same podcast about the need for a new manager.

But yes, as I said before, I think it was out of line & smacked of not knowing much about the BSM at all.

Btw nice post Hugh, very concise.

[northbank123]

Tbh it's just a stupid and ill-informed article, regardless of where the bloke is from.

[augie]

So a Czech living in Canada isn't afforded his opinion(BTW I don't agree with him).....so we get.....fuc.k these foreigners.
I find it funnier that we had Gooners(from London(maybe even Islington)snicker) surpporting Chel$ki to win the Champions League last season......wtf

Fair point tbh

[DB10GOONER]

So a Czech living in Canada isn't afforded his opinion(BTW I don't agree with him).....so we get.....fuc.k these foreigners.
I find it funnier that we had Gooners(from London(maybe even Islington)snicker) surpporting Chel$ki to win the Champions League last season......wtf

Fair point tbh

Have to agree, how the fuck can any "real" Gooner support the chavs even for a fucking minute? Sickening.

What next?

"Ooh I kinda like West Ham too when they're playing against foreigners... ooh did they murder one of us?"

But I also agree with Jardon, maybe it's because Rubes doesn't go regularly that he is not affected by ticket prices, shit atmosphere etc and thus he doesn't really understand what the BSM are trying to achieve.

[hugh jardon]

So a Czech living in Canada isn't afforded his opinion(BTW I don't agree with him).....so we get.....fuc.k these foreigners.
I find it funnier that we had Gooners(from London(maybe even Islington)snicker) surpporting Chel$ki to win the Champions League last season......wtf

For him to support Arsenal from the comfort and convenience of his laptop or TV 3500 miles away from London is a totally different existence from the regular match going supporter. For this guy to use the word "Despise" against those in the BSM who have spent years, perhaps even decades of their time spent away from family and work and continually spent money in actively supporting the club across England and even Europe is bang out of order and even ignorant.

I have bo problem with foreign fans who are able to offer an informed opinion. The Internet and social media have given a voice to these idiots who really don't know what they're talking about. Twitter is riddled with football fans who offer seriously misguided or unknowledgable views. Check their bio and inevitably it will say something like "Fan of Arsenal, Barcelona and AC Milan. Location: Kuwait"

I just don't understand why these people don't support a team they can regularly go and watch in person and be a real part of, surely that would be more enjoyable

[Deleerious]

Arsenal Canada co-chair and local pundit Morgan Rubes calls out the Black Scarf Movement in his latest contribution to small-time local podcast "Premier Punditry":

http://www.premierpunditry.com/?powerpr ... 18-podcast - Starts @ 5:57

"...Every time Arsenal lose I get more and more desperate for silverware and I lean more and more to agreeing with some of the people I despise, that are doing things like the Black Scarf March [sic] that I think are destabilizing forces; the Black Scarf March being where before the Swansea match, fans marched and boo'd management and chanted against management..."

How would you reply to that, Black Scarf members? Just curious.

The BSM are destabilising forces? I couldn't disagree with that more really. It is not our intention to destabilise in anyway? We're not trying to create trouble. We just want what's better and what's right for the fans. I always use the term Champagne prices for lemonade football which is what we're getting.

The fans are fed up... Fed up with the highest ticket price in Europe. Fed up of top players leaving year on year and being replaced with poor imitations. Fed up of the naff sponsorship deals we have in place when teams like united earn many times more than we do, and use that money generated. In 2003 / 2004 when these deals were put in place we were the most marketable team in the world. Fed up of a CEO who is a complete spin merchant talking about "ambition" when we let our best players leave to what was once our rivals. Fed up of having £70m at AW's disposal (so we're told) and not using it. Fed up of an old and out of touch board. Fed up of an owner that doesn't speak, outline his views for the club.

If we're at fault for all that then I'll hold my hands up. We're just trying to give people who have likeminded opinions like we do about those points a voice.

The club have destabilised us if anything.

[DB10GOONER]

Arsenal Canada co-chair and local pundit Morgan Rubes calls out the Black Scarf Movement in his latest contribution to small-time local podcast "Premier Punditry":

http://www.premierpunditry.com/?powerpr ... 18-podcast - Starts @ 5:57

"...Every time Arsenal lose I get more and more desperate for silverware and I lean more and more to agreeing with some of the people I despise, that are doing things like the Black Scarf March [sic] that I think are destabilizing forces; the Black Scarf March being where before the Swansea match, fans marched and boo'd management and chanted against management..."

How would you reply to that, Black Scarf members? Just curious.

The BSM are destabilising forces? I couldn't disagree with that more really. It is not our intention to destabilise in anyway? We're not trying to create trouble. We just want what's better and what's right for the fans. I always use the term Champagne prices for lemonade football which is what we're getting.

The fans are fed up... Fed up with the highest ticket price in Europe. Fed up of top players leaving year on year and being replaced with poor imitations. Fed up of the naff sponsorship deals we have in place when teams like united earn many times more than we do, and use that money generated. In 2003 / 2004 when these deals were put in place we were the most marketable team in the world. Fed up of a CEO who is a complete spin merchant talking about "ambition" when we let our best players leave to what was once our rivals. Fed up of having £70m at AW's disposal (so we're told) and not using it. Fed up of an old and out of touch board. Fed up of an owner that doesn't speak, outline his views for the club.

If we're at fault for all that then I'll hold my hands up. We're just trying to give people who have likeminded opinions like we do about those points a voice.

The club have destabilised us if anything.

Great post, mate. Agreed 100%.