Wenger Out Banner

[northbank123]

Why was the banner ever made when there was no intention ever to show it?

I agree mate, granted I haven't personally taken any steps to make a huge show against Wenger and I didn't personally contribute to the banner as I wasn't on the site at that point but why get it made if not to show it now?

[Dan_85]

[OneBardGooner]

[armchair]

Armchair dont get me wrong mate but didnt you say you'd never been to a game due to cost etc? but in this post above you said you have been to games, which one is it? and if youre not a go-er then how do you expect to show it when you get the banner?

I know SWL has had some shit over this from fellow Gooners and ive spoken to him about it, so i dont blame him at all for not showing it. I know Herd hasn't wanted Wenger out so this isnt aimed at him but there seems to be loads of people urging it to be shown and when asked if they want to do it there seems to be more excuses flying about as to why they cant

Flash you must have me confused with someone else. I'd like to see where you've got that info from?
Quote, source please.........

[armchair]

Anyone who would like to know my reasoning, or to take the banner to show it, should PM me.

As Mikeyb states, for reasons unbeknownst to most people, the circumstances surrounding this are not to be discussed in public.

I've PM'd you about this so many times I'm fukin bored now.

I'd like to clear this particular issue up.

You asked me for it the week before Tottenham home, with no concrete plan to show it at a defined game.

For me to give it to you then without you giving me a sensible plan for you to show it would be ridiculous - how could I be sure you hadn't gone totally mad and were hoping to show it at the Derby?

Yes good idea lets clear this up.
You know fuckin well I wouldn't show it at the derby or against Manure. How? Because I have PM'd you about this numerous times and told you thats how. So dont come that bollox with me
Anyway as far as I'm concerned its not up to you who shows it or where its shown. You, who wouldn't show it expect me who would, to ask you permission where or when to do it?
Whats your "sensible plan"? Leave it lying in someones shed?

PM's are supposed to be private but if you like I'll post every one on here where I've asked to help you hold the banner and more recentely asking you to give me the banner to organise getting it shown myself. I've been trying to get this banner shown from October 2011 and have the PMs to prove it so for you to come on here with that "I'm afraid you'll show it at the derby" shit is fucking insulting.

The bottom line is you took money from forum members on the premis that you'd show this banner. You have reneged and are refusing to show it. (You have perfectly legitimate reasons but frankly thats your problem. When you were organising this you said you knew there may be some agro but were prepared for it)
Not only are you refusing to show it but more incredibly you have refused to give it to those who will show it!

I have contacted 5 other forum members who contributed. The amount we put in collectively is £100. Add frank butcher who put in £50 and we have more than half the cost of the banner.

Very poor form in my opinion.

[OneBardGooner]

What Banner!??? Have I missed somefink???

Come on guys FFS Lighten up - WE (yes, I said) "WE" (Gooners) are all on the same side - well except those brainless dimwit fucks who still think wenker walks on water - And things are just beginning to go our way - ie: The cracks are really beginning to show...


So, public airing of The Banner (or any other anti-board/wenker/etc banner) needs to be timed correctly, because if it were to be made public at a game that we actually won (and played well) it would lose it's 'power and effectiveness'.

Yes it DOES need to be made public, but think about 'when and where' - agree on that and I'm sure it can be put in the hands of those people willing to face bans/fines or whatever else the Arsenal Legal bod *word censored* will throw at them....BUT!..those Gooners MUST Realise they will likely get a long (even lifetime) ban from the bowl...there are all kinds of rules and more importantly 'LAWS' that are in existence for those people attending games - and Arsenal the Club - WILL Prosecute and do all they can to crush, silence and take revenge on anyone who causes even the slightest negative publicity - even though it be done for all the right and honourable reasons...

And so, regardless of any misubderstandings or differences of opinions, whatever - rather than allow things to fracture opinion and support, we MUST stick together - there will be those who don't want to incur the wrath of Arsenals legal team etc and others who do not give a flying fuck...so :

a) CHILL
b) DIscuss who wants to do what and who does not
c) Arrange and Organise the BEST time for the Banner to have the Maximum Impact with the LEAST harm to those showing/holding the Banner...

FFS we ARE The Arsenal - Not a load of scum toilet supporters!

[DB10_TH14]

What Banner!??? Have I missed somefink???

Come on guys FFS Lighten up - WE (yes, I said) "WE" (Gooners) are all on the same side - well except those brainless dimwit fucks who still think wenker walks on water - And things are just beginning to go our way - ie: The cracks are really beginning to show...


So, public airing of The Banner (or any other anti-board/wenker/etc banner) needs to be timed correctly, because if it were to be made public at a game that we actually won (and played well) it would lose it's 'power and effectiveness'.

Yes it DOES need to be made public, but think about 'when and where' - agree on that and I'm sure it can be put in the hands of those people willing to face bans/fines or whatever else the Arsenal Legal bod *word censored* will throw at them....BUT!..those Gooners MUST Realise they will likely get a long (even lifetime) ban from the bowl...there are all kinds of rules and more importantly 'LAWS' that are in existence for those people attending games - and Arsenal the Club - WILL Prosecute and do all they can to crush, silence and take revenge on anyone who causes even the slightest negative publicity - even though it be done for all the right and honourable reasons...

And so, regardless of any misubderstandings or differences of opinions, whatever - rather than allow things to fracture opinion and support, we MUST stick together - there will be those who don't want to incur the wrath of Arsenals legal team etc and others who do not give a flying fuck...so :

a) CHILL
b) DIscuss who wants to do what and who does not
c) Arrange and Organise the BEST time for the Banner to have the Maximum Impact with the LEAST harm to those showing/holding the Banner...

FFS we ARE The Arsenal - Not a load of scum toilet supporters!

spine tingling, inspirational speech from the man that is OBG

[goonerbill123]

yes people wenger needs to just go he dont do anything when it comes to transfer he just sits on the bench moaning at the sideline people and the referee and just moans and is only happy when goals come if he wants to me more happy than miserable buy someone special from the january transfer market , sorry to say wenger needs to go ,

[Redsenga1]

What Banner!??? Have I missed somefink???

Come on guys FFS Lighten up - WE (yes, I said) "WE" (Gooners) are all on the same side - well except those brainless dimwit fucks who still think wenker walks on water - And things are just beginning to go our way - ie: The cracks are really beginning to show...


So, public airing of The Banner (or any other anti-board/wenker/etc banner) needs to be timed correctly, because if it were to be made public at a game that we actually won (and played well) it would lose it's 'power and effectiveness'.

Yes it DOES need to be made public, but think about 'when and where' - agree on that and I'm sure it can be put in the hands of those people willing to face bans/fines or whatever else the Arsenal Legal bod *word censored* will throw at them....BUT!..those Gooners MUST Realise they will likely get a long (even lifetime) ban from the bowl...there are all kinds of rules and more importantly 'LAWS' that are in existence for those people attending games - and Arsenal the Club - WILL Prosecute and do all they can to crush, silence and take revenge on anyone who causes even the slightest negative publicity - even though it be done for all the right and honourable reasons...

And so, regardless of any misubderstandings or differences of opinions, whatever - rather than allow things to fracture opinion and support, we MUST stick together - there will be those who don't want to incur the wrath of Arsenals legal team etc and others who do not give a flying fuck...so :

a) CHILL
b) DIscuss who wants to do what and who does not
c) Arrange and Organise the BEST time for the Banner to have the Maximum Impact with the LEAST harm to those showing/holding the Banner...

FFS we ARE The Arsenal - Not a load of scum toilet supporters!

There's no such thing as a perfect time....its subjective but have to be honest if I had paid into the banner I would expect some right to show it regardless, the shareholding of this is worse than the arsenal board itself!!!!! Armchair should be given the bloody banner if the majority of banners payers agree....not sure of the history but someone needs to sort it or organise a new one, the chelski showed one within a week of the Fat Spanish waiter commencing service....

[augie]

I understand the hesitation some feel about potential backlash and I certainly understand the impatience of those waiting the banner to be displayed now but FFS can we (those of us that want wenger out) please stay united on this cos there will be enough pro wenger knobs trying to cause trouble over the banner without us turning on each other

I know it has probably been asked before (maybe even by me ) but what legal right has the club to expel a member from the grove for displaying a banner ? The fact that there are so many banners already on display must surely set a precedent allowing it to be shown without reprisals ? Granted I ain't no lawyer but surely allowing one means opening the door for other banners as long as they are not abusive which this one clearly isn't ? It isn't even as if they object on the basis of it being a banner that opposes a club official cos they allowed a banner to be displayed that opposed the 2nd highest shareholder of the club

Personally I think somebody should be able or get someone they know to check out any potential legal issues in uk law for displaying the banner. If it turns out that the club would be within their rights to issue a banning order then surely the next step would be to get a group of fans willing to display it outside the armoury on matchday ? Personally I don't give a flying fcuk about abuse from other fans for displaying the banner and will volunteer my services to assist in displaying it once the legal situation has been clarified. It is high time for change and we cannot just sit on our thumbs hoping for change......if we believe in it then we need to fight for it and fight alongside and not opposite each other

[Dan_85]

I know it has probably been asked before (maybe even by me ) but what legal right has the club to expel a member from the grove for displaying a banner ?

As far as i'm aware none, providing it isn't offensive/racist/sexist etc. But then again, maybe free speech doesn't exist in the Pravda-dome.

[g88ner]

I know it has probably been asked before (maybe even by me ) but what legal right has the club to expel a member from the grove for displaying a banner ?

As far as i'm aware none, providing it isn't offensive/racist/sexist etc. But then again, maybe free speech doesn't exist in the Pravda-dome.

Didn't Sammy say you'd have the banner confiscated and nothing more? - could be wrong.

[arseofacrow]

There's no such thing as a perfect time....its subjective but have to be honest if I had paid into the banner I would expect some right to show it regardless, the shareholding of this is worse than the arsenal board itself!!!!! Armchair should be given the bloody banner if the majority of banners payers agree....not sure of the history but someone needs to sort it or organise a new one, the chelski showed one within a week of the Fat Spanish waiter commencing service....

A bit Life of Brian

[storrmin571]

only another 101 pages to go to beat the other thread

[SteveO 35]

This is the 'Virtual Banner' thread, and the virtual banner will be flying at St James's Park in May to celebrate the Virtual Trophy