THE WENGER THREAD

[augie]

As the flag says Arsene Thanks for the memories but its time to say goodbye

Fair enough, but no way should that flag be flown 365 days a year

[DB10GOONER]

As the flag says Arsene Thanks for the memories but its time to say goodbye

Fair enough, but no way should that flag be flown 365 days a year

ooh - controversial!

[OneBardGooner]

There's a very easy solution to all this conflict about the flag flying on the pole thingy...Just alternate - One day the flag flies, the next day the pole is used for some BIG Mammaried Porn Star to Pole Dance...easy innit.

[g88ner]

Good article below...

http://www.newsnow.co.uk/A/619191033?-19387:844

Good article. Thanks Hlebby

[northbank123]

Good article below...

http://www.newsnow.co.uk/A/619191033?-19387:844

Good article. Thanks Hlebby

Thoroughly enjoyed reading that. Accurate and hard-hitting without being obsessive or maniacal.

Really puts it into perspective when he says about how much money we've paid Diaby and Ramsey so far. If you added these to the transfer fee and wages paid on Arshavin, Squillaci, Djourou, Park, Gervinho, Bendtner, Rosicky and Denilson, you're looking at probably around £150m and for what? A good season or two from Arshavin, some promise from Ramsey, fleeting flashes of form from Diaby and Rosicky and a handful of important goals from Nicky B.

No squad is going to be 100% financially efficient, but we're talking about a 9 figure sum here that's been spunked away due to pigheadedness and arrogance.

[Wengerball]

Cant believe that we didnt have the balls to go to Bradford and win- what makes it worse is the fact that that this same team are outperforming a shite Villa side that we could only muster a point against.

We should have fucking won that game and its particularly gaulling when you see the sides that are left in the tournament (I include a Chavs reserve team in that)- it was the best chance we've had at silverware in the last couple of seasons and Mr Myopic made a *word censored* of it, playing that wanker Gervinho up front.

Still I suppose it would have been another bottle job and we have been saved a rerun of Birmingham 2 years ago.

Thanks Arsene

[SteveO 35]

Overall I believe that Aston Villa defended very well

Yes against us with our gormless 4-5-1, but strangely not against Wigan (0-3), Chelsea (0-8), Bradford (1-3) and the Scum (0-4). Strange how the leakiest defence around defended very well eh?

[Herd]

It's all about Arsene at the moment isn't it .
The vanity bid for David Villa in an attempt to show that he can still attract Top names ,(it aint happening)
the Big Signing fest of the Good the Gibbs and the Ramsey which has attracted as much criticism as it has plaudits,and the Bizarre reference to Socialism as an explanation to the ludicrous wages paid to the dross .

The unusual info fest that has started since the New Year gives also us a glimpse of what goes on financially behind the scenes.
If he is to believed Wenger has far more input into the Budget than I perhaps thought before hand and it's clear he is complicit and even agreeable with the structure of the financial Model ,so much for the working under duress !

The Theo Deal is done as I've said before ,I don't think we will see much else happening frankly unless he sells Sagna !

Never mind Santos and Diaby are almost back ,they will be like new signings !

If and I mean If Diaby can play 10 consecutive games we might just finish 4th !

[northbank123]

Exactly Herd - surely for ardent Wenger supporters their reasons for blindly standing behind the man are being reduced? Our big players are sick of playing for his team and leaving in droves, and the financial constraints he's working under are self-imposed.

[DB10GOONER]

Exactly Herd - surely for ardent Wenger supporters their reasons for blindly standing behind the man are being reduced? Our big players are sick of playing for his team and leaving in droves, and the financial constraints he's working under are self-imposed.

Agreed. There are a good few of us on here that have been saying this for years - that the problem is one of Arsene's own making, his ego is driving him to build this mythical superteam of unknowns that he has then supposedly developed into superstars. He is the one that refuses to better use that money on proven talent.

The problem isn't one of lack of money to spend, it's the mis-spending of the available money on huge wages for kids, unproven talent and dross. He won't spend big to bring in proven talent for let's say 2 or 3 seasons to push the team forward (and maybe encourage other big names to sign) but he will piss away the same amount of money over 6 or 7 seasons by paying huge wages to dross that he has "discovered", with no benefit to the team.

For all Wenger's talk of financial prudence, in reality he has been financially inept. We have still spent a fortune, but unlike other big spenders of the last few years, we've spent big with zero return where it matters; trophies.

Modern Arsenal is a vanity project for a rich, arrogant old man with a gigantic ego.

[Skooner]

Exactly Herd - surely for ardent Wenger supporters their reasons for blindly standing behind the man are being reduced? Our big players are sick of playing for his team and leaving in droves, and the financial constraints he's working under are self-imposed.

Agreed. There are a good few of us on here that have been saying this for years - that the problem is one of Arsene's own making, his ego is driving him to build this mythical superteam of unknowns that he has then supposedly developed into superstars. He is the one that refuses to better use that money on proven talent.

The problem isn't one of lack of money to spend, it's the mis-spending of the available money on huge wages for kids, unproven talent and dross. He won't spend big to bring in proven talent for let's say 2 or 3 seasons to push the team forward (and maybe encourage other big names to sign) but he will piss away the same amount of money over 6 or 7 seasons by paying huge wages to dross that he has "discovered", with no benefit to the team.

For all Wenger's talk of financial prudence, in reality he has been financially inept. We have still spent a fortune, but unlike other big spenders of the last few years, we've spent big with zero return where it matters; trophies.

Modern Arsenal is a vanity project for a rich, arrogant old man with a gigantic ego.

Absolutely it is of his own making. For all their sins, the board have been consistent in their message over the years that there is money to spend and even Wenger at one point stated that if we wanted to buy a player for £30m we had the means to do so.

The article posted above mentions having 77 players on the books. I’d be interested to know if any other club in England has that many. Wenger is in complete control of who is on the playing staff and heavily involved (if not in complete control) in deciding how the budget is spent. The waste of money at the club would be criminal at any club but for a club that prides itself on being financially sound it is simply laughable.

[begeegs]

Exactly Herd - surely for ardent Wenger supporters their reasons for blindly standing behind the man are being reduced? Our big players are sick of playing for his team and leaving in droves, and the financial constraints he's working under are self-imposed.

Agreed. There are a good few of us on here that have been saying this for years - that the problem is one of Arsene's own making, his ego is driving him to build this mythical superteam of unknowns that he has then supposedly developed into superstars. He is the one that refuses to better use that money on proven talent.

The problem isn't one of lack of money to spend, it's the mis-spending of the available money on huge wages for kids, unproven talent and dross. He won't spend big to bring in proven talent for let's say 2 or 3 seasons to push the team forward (and maybe encourage other big names to sign) but he will piss away the same amount of money over 6 or 7 seasons by paying huge wages to dross that he has "discovered", with no benefit to the team.

For all Wenger's talk of financial prudence, in reality he has been financially inept. We have still spent a fortune, but unlike other big spenders of the last few years, we've spent big with zero return where it matters; trophies.

Modern Arsenal is a vanity project for a rich, arrogant old man with a gigantic ego.

Have to agree with all of that. It's why I don't get upset anymore about a lack of transfer activity anymore. I don't trust the man to buy what is needed because frankly I don't think that his coaching methods would help at all even if he did.

What I do like about these vanity articles that Wenger gives is that it takes any reason that anyone would want him to stay completely off of the table. The board are only to blame because they don't have the balls to take his power away.

I am hoping that he will walk at the end of the year.

[Chippy]

Someone just tweeted that Pep has told the club that he wants to come to Arsenal and PSG want AW as Ancelloti replacement.

[armchair]

Someone just tweeted that Pep has told the club that he wants to come to Arsenal and PSG want AW as Ancelloti replacement.

Pep is going to Chelski. FACT!

[mcdowell42]

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