Striker impact

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Herd
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The Answer is Ian Wright ,Southampton away !

Oh it wasnt a question just another thinly disguised boring rant !

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Herd wrote:The Answer is Ian Wright ,Southampton away !

Oh it wasnt a question just another thinly disguised boring rant !
Well, allegedly David Villa wants out of Barca. At this point, if Wenger doesn't dip into the market that £24 million he made with RVP will be the void from being out of the Champions League - self-fulfilling prophecy? Looks that way to me.

How many points would we be better off had he held on to RVP this year and got rid of Wally or kept both?

The sale of RVP to Man United has to be the worst bit of transfer business from a manager in the past 10 years.

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begeegs wrote:
The sale of RVP to Man United has to be the worst bit of transfer business from a manager in the past 10 years.
I would say that not replacing him was the biggest mistake.

I wanted him to stay of course, and to encourage this by strengthening our squad.
His sale could cost us qualification for the Champions League.

But from a business point of view it offers up £21.5M profit on a 29 year old player with a fairly busy injury record.

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QuartzGooner wrote:
begeegs wrote:
The sale of RVP to Man United has to be the worst bit of transfer business from a manager in the past 10 years.
I would say that not replacing him was the biggest mistake.

I wanted him to stay of course, and to encourage this by strengthening our squad.
His sale could cost us qualification for the Champions League.

But from a business point of view it offers up £21.5M profit on a 29 year old player with a fairly busy injury record.

I agree with you mostly Quartz, however. We haven't made a profit from this sale. It might go a long way to covering his salary for most of those years with us. His goals got us into a CL place last year, but his contribution was not significant before then.
Now, with him gone, it could cost the club £25m this year in lost CL revenue and then, quite probably, for a few more years.

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Top Londoner wrote:
QuartzGooner wrote:
begeegs wrote:
The sale of RVP to Man United has to be the worst bit of transfer business from a manager in the past 10 years.
I would say that not replacing him was the biggest mistake.

I wanted him to stay of course, and to encourage this by strengthening our squad.
His sale could cost us qualification for the Champions League.

But from a business point of view it offers up £21.5M profit on a 29 year old player with a fairly busy injury record.

I agree with you mostly Quartz, however. We haven't made a profit from this sale. It might go a long way to covering his salary for most of those years with us. His goals got us into a CL place last year, but his contribution was not significant before then.
Now, with him gone, it could cost the club £25m this year in lost CL revenue and then, quite probably, for a few more years.
That can be said for any player though, that a transfer fee is always minus a salary.

With salaries so high, very few players at a club like ours can be sold in pure profit....even someone like Song would have been on high enough wages which would have eaten up most of his sell on profit.

I suppose Championship clubs selling players such as Walcott or Alex-Oxlade Chamberlain make better transfer-fee-to-wage-ratio profits, because they pay lower wages.

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Top Londoner wrote: Now, with him gone, it could cost the club £25m this year in lost CL revenue and then, quite probably, for a few more years.
Even more than 25. You get money for games and TV rights but you also sell out your stadium and they say the sponsors pay less when the club drops out of the CL.

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gilberto scored on his debut as well, didn't he? community shield if i'm not mistaken. i usually am though :lol:

oh the times when we played the community shield... :cry:

btw, i don't care about strikers who make an instant impact. give me a slow starting bergkamp, thierry or pires and i'm a happy fella :barscarf:

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not buying a reconised world class forward has cost us

Giroud & Gervinho are not up to it, Podolski & Walcott won't get enough goals, from the positions they are playing in...

I don't think Wenger will buy anyone, and say he is happy with his squad

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I can see Augie having a field day in particular with this (if it hasn't been mentioned already)...

Apparently Walcott's league goals have actually only got us one point (when he scored within a minute at Everton).

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northbank123 wrote:I can see Augie having a field day in particular with this (if it hasn't been mentioned already)...

Apparently Walcott's league goals have actually only got us one point (when he scored within a minute at Everton).



:lol: :lol: Worth 100k a week in anyone's money :barscarf: :wink:

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I like stats, I really do. But that stat is really bullshit :lol:
For example it implies that the game vs Newcastle would've ended 4:3 without his Hat-trick.. as if a goal doesn't change a whole game. Not all of his goals were important to get points but the goals against Newcastle, West Ham and Everton were.
Well I guess three games are not that good either :oops:

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kite wrote:I like stats, I really do. But that stat is really bullshit :lol:
For example it implies that the game vs Newcastle would've ended 4:3 without his Hat-trick.. as if a goal doesn't change a whole game. Not all of his goals were important to get points but the goals against Newcastle, West Ham and Everton were.
Well I guess three games are not that good either :oops:


Tbh that stat only refers again to the fact that the vast majority of his goals come in the last 15 minutes of games and a few of them even came in the 90th minute and by that stage the games are usually won or lost therefore slightly lessening the importance of the goals

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Stats. The last resort of arseholes... and certain French managers well past their sell-by date. :roll: :banghead:

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DB10GOONER wrote:Stats. The last resort of arseholes... and certain French managers well past their sell-by date. :roll: :banghead:
:lol: :lol:

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kite wrote:I like stats, I really do. But that stat is really bullshit :lol:
For example it implies that the game vs Newcastle would've ended 4:3 without his Hat-trick.. as if a goal doesn't change a whole game. Not all of his goals were important to get points but the goals against Newcastle, West Ham and Everton were.
Well I guess three games are not that good either :oops:
Of course I wasn't taking it at face value, I fully agree that we couldn't have done without some of his goals. United would be below us if you took van Judas' goals away, but nobody for a minute thinks if he'd been injured all season then we'd be level with them.

But it's not bullshit as it does give some credence to the theory that the goals he scores are generally not important ones. Whereas van Judas', by contrast, are.

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