Wojciech Szczesny.. what has Gerry Peyton done?

[Brady's left peg]

After the 2003 FA Cup final Bob Wilson stood down as our goalkeeping coach and was replaced with Gerry Peyton,
I presume he was appointed by Wenger and that he was aware of his coaching efficiencies and deficiencies. Peyton took over at the same time as Jens Lehmann took over between the sticks, with the exception of Lehmann he has presided over a particularly poor goalkeeping period in my opinion, even Jens made quite a few mistakes including a couple of right howlers.
Almunia, Fabianski and Mannone are all poor keepers and sir Chesney is starting to make the same kind of mistakes, flapping at crosses, charging out like a headless chicken and parrying the ball straight back into play are just a few of the similarities that I have noticed. When Szczesny broke into the first team he had an arrogance and confidence about him, took command of his area and I believe had the potential to become a very fine keeper. When I watch him now I see a nervous panicky keeper lacking any sort of self confidence. Playing behind such an unpredictable defence has not helped his development but even with that taken into account, he has not pushed on the way a lot of us expected.

It cannot be coincidence that all of these keepers have/are making the same mistakes, unfortunately Wenger seems unable to make the link....... that Peyton has been responsible for coaching these keepers. Can we have a new goalkeeping coach now please, before Wojciech Szczesny becomes yet another great prospect who fails to reach their potential due to wenger's intransigence.

[franksav63]

I remember Gerry Peyton when he played.... and he was shit, so if he's passing on his words of wisdom it's no wonder they turn out the same!

[mcdowell42]

hes doing fuck all as far as im aware peyton was a journeyman player

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerry_Peyton


David seaman is out there go and offer him silly money to coach at arsenal,lets get rid of the coaches who arent improving our team.Fuck it thts all the coaches then

[Brady's left peg]

I remember Gerry Peyton when he played.... and he was shit, so if he's passing on his words of wisdom it's no wonder they turn out the same!

Shit players don't always equate to shit coaches, but in this instance I'm with you....... not good enough for The Arsenal.

[Supagoon]

i have never rated sczenzy very highly, but he best assets since he broke through are being erroded by this transformation into are less able GKs. I agree he is making the same mistakes Mannone was and that calls into question our GK coach.

[franksav63]

I remember Gerry Peyton when he played.... and he was shit, so if he's passing on his words of wisdom it's no wonder they turn out the same!

Shit players don't always equate to shit coaches, but in this instance I'm with you....... not good enough for The Arsenal.

The problem with Wenger, of which there are many, is that Wenger likes to surround himself with people who won't question him, Peyton wasn't even an Arsenal man ffs, he only promoted Bould, under duress because Rice retired, and even then tried to talk him out of that. Wenger never freshens up his back room staff, he loves to keep things stale and shit!

[markyp]

just like all the other coaches at Arsenal i bet Peyton isnt allowed to coach,i suspect Arsene has been hands on with the keeper as he is with the rest of our comedy defence,

[mcdowell42]

Peyton had coached in Japan,ah tht explains it

[Brady's left peg]

I remember Gerry Peyton when he played.... and he was shit, so if he's passing on his words of wisdom it's no wonder they turn out the same!

Shit players don't always equate to shit coaches, but in this instance I'm with you....... not good enough for The Arsenal.

The problem with Wenger, of which there are many, is that Wenger likes to surround himself with people who won't question him, Peyton wasn't even an Arsenal man ffs, he only promoted Bould, under duress because Rice retired, and even then tried to talk him out of that. Wenger never freshens up his back room staff, he loves to keep things stale and shit!

No argument from me...... we can all see it but Wenger can't and he never will, and things will not change until Wenger's gone.

[franksav63]

I remember Gerry Peyton when he played.... and he was shit, so if he's passing on his words of wisdom it's no wonder they turn out the same!

Shit players don't always equate to shit coaches, but in this instance I'm with you....... not good enough for The Arsenal.

The problem with Wenger, of which there are many, is that Wenger likes to surround himself with people who won't question him, Peyton wasn't even an Arsenal man ffs, he only promoted Bould, under duress because Rice retired, and even then tried to talk him out of that. Wenger never freshens up his back room staff, he loves to keep things stale and shit!

No argument from me...... we can all see it but Wenger can't and he never will, and things will not change until Wenger's gone.

Yes, it's very sad, especially when you look on the other hand at red nose, who's always turning over his back room staff, his players so keeping things fresh all the time, it's no wonder that he's a continuing success and a winner.

[Nos89]

Amusing post, when I suggested this very same thing on this forum 2 years ago I got slaughtered by the Irish forum members. Just don't criticise Shay Given.

It does seem Szczesny has taken to the Nigel Martyn school of goalkeeping practice, the push it away rather than catch it philosophy.

[RioGooner]

Isn't Jens available as coach and willing to do the job? Would be a no brainer that has worked a day in football

[northbank123]

I don't lay blame with Peyton tbh, I think Szczesny's demise has come down to 2 connected reasons:

1. Arrogance

Since being a youngster mouthing off about being ignored by Wenger he has showed a level of arrogance that can only be justified by quality on the pitch. He was more than willing to come out mouthing off about Spurs and various other topics last season when he (and we) were playing well and indeed seems to love the limelight with his stupid little Pravda features etc, but not once have I heard him take responsibility and say he should be performing better (and if you're thinking of providing a link showing otherwise FUCK OFF ). Also the way he plays chicken with the striker when he receives a backpass is fucking infuriating, needs to stop fucking around!

2. Lack of pressure on his position

Wenger has passed up the opportunity to sign plenty of keepers (most notably Lloris this summer) because he wants to guarantee Ches the jersey. Given the level of competition at Clown School and that he's already number 1 for his country, he knows no matter how poorly he plays he isn't going to suffer. At times it's like he doesn't even take the job seriously.

I don't blame Peyton because the mistakes Ches has been making are not attributable to lack of coaching. He has taken it upon himself to start palming everything back out into the dangerzone and he's taken it upon himself to come and flap at crosses every game without fail - you can't coach a 22-year old professional keeper at a CL club how to catch a cross, it's such a basic skill. He can only work with what he's given - just like in his first season he had a brilliant keeper in Jens Lehmann and he's had various clowns since.

[gavbacon]

On the subject of Lehmann, it reminded me of a funny video, skip to 20 seconds!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Se2h0GC ... ata_player

[northbank123]

I remember him throwing a ball at Kevin Phillips' head as soon as the final whistle went at St Mary's in 2003/04. Favourite Mad Jens moment must be at home to Portsmouth early on in his first season when Sheringham went through but was flagged offside, Lehmann saw this and dived in with a pretty awful challenge on the prick with no attempt to get the ball and then acted surprised when he saw the lino's flag. Also watching him lay Scott Parker out for having the temerity to try and challenge a bouncing ball gets better every time you watch it.

Also of course a hero for being class in the Invincibles season and for being the single reason why it's 8 years without a trophy and not 9.

Always hated seeing him interviewed though, suited the headcase persona more than the articulate intellectual.