OneBardGooner wrote:Talking of woeful. WTF are you doing on here when we aren't losing?????N1Goon wrote:If Villa try anything other then parking the bus completely we will completely batter them. They are woeful, and the only team in the whole league I would bet on us beating.
OneBardGooner wrote:Talking of woeful. WTF are you doing on here when we aren't losing?????N1Goon wrote:If Villa try anything other then parking the bus completely we will completely batter them. They are woeful, and the only team in the whole league I would bet on us beating.
Erm, you do know that writing the word "delete" doesn't actually make a post disappear, don't you?p206ab wrote:OneBardGooner wrote:Talking of woeful. WTF are you doing on here when we aren't losing?????N1Goon wrote:If Villa try anything other then parking the bus completely we will completely batter them. They are woeful, and the only team in the whole league I would bet on us beating.
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Augie - i totally agree that people want Wenger out, if you see my latest posts you will see that im starting to think that the end of the season is the time for him to go.Bendtners Drinking Buddy wrote:That article by Gooner Ed was embarrasing, undermined any argument against Wenger with references to violence (whether intentional or not it was provocative) and the 8 min chant is disgusting, especially against Villa who do it for a valid reason ie: Lukemia.
Ive spoken to a lot of people and the online gooner has gone down in a lot of people's estimations post the publication of that, most believing had anyone else submitted it, it would have been severly edited.
Not a personal thing, but that article was an absolute joke.
Augie - i totally agree that people want Wenger out, if you see my latest posts you will see that im starting to think that the end of the season is the time for him to go.Bendtners Drinking Buddy wrote:That article by Gooner Ed was embarrasing, undermined any argument against Wenger with references to violence (whether intentional or not it was provocative) and the 8 min chant is disgusting, especially against Villa who do it for a valid reason ie: Lukemia.
Ive spoken to a lot of people and the online gooner has gone down in a lot of people's estimations post the publication of that, most believing had anyone else submitted it, it would have been severly edited.
Not a personal thing, but that article was an absolute joke.
Perhaps gooner.ed can come back on this because I think you are wide of the mark BDB.Bendtners Drinking Buddy wrote:Augie - i totally agree that people want Wenger out, if you see my latest posts you will see that im starting to think that the end of the season is the time for him to go.Bendtners Drinking Buddy wrote:That article by Gooner Ed was embarrasing, undermined any argument against Wenger with references to violence (whether intentional or not it was provocative) and the 8 min chant is disgusting, especially against Villa who do it for a valid reason ie: Lukemia.
Ive spoken to a lot of people and the online gooner has gone down in a lot of people's estimations post the publication of that, most believing had anyone else submitted it, it would have been severly edited.
Not a personal thing, but that article was an absolute joke.
I understand people want to protest, i wont join in but everybody who pays their money is entitled to their views - but that article inferred to me that if anyone expressed a view that wasnt "wenger out" and things got heated then violence was an excusable form of retaliation. Bollocks - there were young kids at Brighton that saw that very same - would you want your kids close to / witnessing violence - at a football match or otherwise?
As a popular fanzine the Gooner should be talking out against such things, we should be naming and shaming those who tarnish our excellent away supporters who fight against their own - they have no respect from me. Instead the artcle encouraged it, its was laughable and as i said before the Gooner has gone down in a lot of supporters estimations post that. The 8 min chant thing was ridiculous and will never happen, and to suggeest it v Villa shows there was very little thought put into it.
We can all vent - thats what a forum is for - in my view the ed used his position to publish something that has grossly misjudged and frankly id like to see and apology as i like the Gooner and would hate to see it go / become disvalued because of a mistake.
Not a personal attack on the ED - he does a great job - but in my opinion that article was a huge mistake and i just hope there are not ramifications from it and people get hurt.
but would be interesting to hearfrom gooner.ed. I don't think the article needs a re-write - I think your misinterpreting it. (that's why I'd like gooner.ed to respond)Bendtners Drinking Buddy wrote:Thats fine pal, im not having a personal pop at him, and im sure he does a lot more good for Arsenal supporters than me - all im saying is, the view ive expressed is pretty widespread.
Im sure he isnt saying "lets get in the stands and fight" - but the article had a viscious undertone and if trouble does happen - they will revert back to that article and use it as a "green light" if you like.
Football is about opinons, maybe mine is in the minority, but i still think a re-write / clarification would be the right thing to do - its a good fanzine that id hate to see dragged through the mud.
As for the 8 min thing? What dont you agree with? Its a pointless protest that will never happen - i hate the whle "16 mins for Di Matteo" crap, its makes Chelsea look stupid and classless. To suggest it v Villa was tasteless (although im sure it was just an oversight on the Petrov thing) and again, undermined anything it was trying to acheive.
We are a split fanbase at the moment - not just in terms of our views, but how we think they should be expressed. I wont ever have a go at anyone for booing, but by the same token i dont want a ruck if i dont join in.
I don't think the article needs a re-write - I think your misinterpreting it. (that's why I'd like gooner.ed to respond)Bendtners Drinking Buddy wrote:Thats fine pal, im not having a personal pop at him, and im sure he does a lot more good for Arsenal supporters than me - all im saying is, the view ive expressed is pretty widespread.
Im sure he isnt saying "lets get in the stands and fight" - but the article had a viscious undertone and if trouble does happen - they will revert back to that article and use it as a "green light" if you like.
Football is about opinons, maybe mine is in the minority, but i still think a re-write / clarification would be the right thing to do - its a good fanzine that id hate to see dragged through the mud.
As for the 8 min thing? What dont you agree with? Its a pointless protest that will never happen - i hate the whle "16 mins for Di Matteo" crap, its makes Chelsea look stupid and classless. To suggest it v Villa was tasteless (although im sure it was just an oversight on the Petrov thing) and again, undermined anything it was trying to acheive.
We are a split fanbase at the moment - not just in terms of our views, but how we think they should be expressed. I wont ever have a go at anyone for booing, but by the same token i dont want a ruck if i dont join in.
As I said, I think you are well wide of the mark. On all counts. And it doesn't take much to create a feeding frenzy (well, a snack perhapsBendtners Drinking Buddy wrote:Maybe I am - but so are a lot of people...its not whether you agree or disagree with the sentiments thats the issue pal - its whether the Gooner should be publishing something so provocative - its transcends "opinion" and dips into just plain anger that will cause uprest, and like i said - if there is a big ruck and somebody gets hurt - the article will be brought up again - and i dont think the Gooner Ed a) meant that or b) wants it to be dragged through the mud.
Like i said, the views ive seen in the pubs and with fellow fans in the stands is that the article was at best provocative and at worst an absolte shambles that made the fanzine look unintelligent, misinformed and a voice for pure idiocy...which we all know isnt the case.
He is the Ed, he can write what he wants at the end of the day and as ive said, overall i think he does a great job, but in my opinion that article was a big mistake - and the issues it has caused on twitter, and on here, prove that it wast just a normal article, it was in the opinion of me and many other fans - a big mistake. Everybody is entitled to their views, but as a fanzine there needs to be an ability to stand back and take heed of the wider ramifications of what is published.
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