Stadium atmosphere

As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.

Which single change would impact most on improving the stadium atmosphere at home matches?

Safe standing
30
60%
More pockets of "redsections"
4
8%
An AFC "anthem" to be played when players are coming out of the tunnel
0
No votes
Greater interaction between supporters groups
2
4%
Stewards being more understanding
0
No votes
You do not care
1
2%
There is no hope
12
24%
Anything else (please share)
1
2%
 
Total votes: 50

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Dan_85 wrote: Westfalenstadion at Dortmund is the definition of a perfect football ground in my opinion, ideal in every aspect
Agree. Visually it is amazing. The yellow wall is supposed to be a sight to behold. Shits all over the Kop and the famous Anfield atmosphere, but to be fair to the whingers, they've also seen their core support priced out and have a lot of tourists. A good pal of mine is half German and has family in Dortmund, who are Borussia supporters. He keeps telling me to go. It's €15 to stand in the Sudtribune and you drink beer there and apparently they are very welcoming to English supporters over for a weekend. I think a weekend trip to Dortmund to watch a match, if you lay off the beer and food would probably come out to less than some of the category A games at the Emirates.

If we are stuck with the bowl and its design then it's up to us to somehow get a good atmosphere going. German fans have come here and rocked it on each occasion, so it's not impossible even if only the lower tiers get going. Genuinely feel sick when looking at the Spuds new stadium design. Hate that club so much and are praying it all goes tits up for them and they go out of business with their attempted move, but to be fair to them, at least they asked their supporters and took their input on the design of the new ground. Our club of dictators just pressed ahead as they please. I lay the blame at Hill-Wood's feet. He seems like the kind who would want the extravagant, self indulgent, superficial stadium. As much as I mistrust and dislike Wenger now, I remember him distinctly saying he didn't think the stadium needed to be so nice and corporate. The only thing he cared about was the pitch and its quality.

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TheCook wrote:
augie wrote:Redaction.......the great bastion representing Gooners everywhere :roll: :oops: :banghead:
Give it a rest you knobhead ; never ever at any point has anyone associated with REDaction suggested they represent anyone but six Arsenal fans who formed the group originally.

This is part of the problem ; dickheads from across the Irish sea, slagging off the atmosphere at a stadium you visit a couple of times a year on a weekend jolly up.
Cook

I know you have put in work for Redaction and personally I think they are a good thing, all be it with a limited remit.
The "Irish" part is uncalled for.

And do not take it personally, Augie is curmudgeonly at the best of times.
If he won a million Euros tax free he would moan that it was not two million, rather than celebrating his good fortune!

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QuartzGooner wrote:
TheCook wrote:
augie wrote:Redaction.......the great bastion representing Gooners everywhere :roll: :oops: :banghead:
Give it a rest you knobhead ; never ever at any point has anyone associated with REDaction suggested they represent anyone but six Arsenal fans who formed the group originally.

This is part of the problem ; dickheads from across the Irish sea, slagging off the atmosphere at a stadium you visit a couple of times a year on a weekend jolly up.
Cook

I know you have put in work for Redaction and personally I think they are a good thing, all be it with a limited remit.
The "Irish" part is uncalled for.

And do not take it personally, Augie is curmudgeonly at the best of times.
If he won a million Euros tax free he would moan that it was not two million, rather than celebrating his good fortune!

So what do I call it? Just 'the sea' ??
8)

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DB10GOONER wrote: Driving out those cowardly arsehole wannabe weekend warriors was needed because the game was dead on it's feet. They were a minority ruining it for the majority. The problem was that the media, police and many clubs assumed that ALL fans were lowlifes and decided to totally desensitise stadia and try and get FAMILIES going instead of groups of lads. They out priced (and demotivated) the regular non-hooligan fans (the people that originally made the noise without attacking people as part of a gutless mob) and replaced them with zero-attention-span idiots that sit there playing with their iPhones.
Agree that prices have gone through the roof since the mid-nineties, but Families always went.
Used to get loads in the West Lower at Highbury, and it was a good thing. How else are kids supposed to get a taste of the atmosphere and the live match?
There was a schoolboys enclosure as far back as the fifties as far as I know, perhaps even further back than that (Olgit?), and I believe that our Family Enclosure started in the eighties as an way to have affordable tickets for a parent and his kids in a fairly heavily stewarded area, before Heysel, Hillsborough or the Premier League.

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QuartzGooner wrote:
DB10GOONER wrote: Driving out those cowardly arsehole wannabe weekend warriors was needed because the game was dead on it's feet. They were a minority ruining it for the majority. The problem was that the media, police and many clubs assumed that ALL fans were lowlifes and decided to totally desensitise stadia and try and get FAMILIES going instead of groups of lads. They out priced (and demotivated) the regular non-hooligan fans (the people that originally made the noise without attacking people as part of a gutless mob) and replaced them with zero-attention-span idiots that sit there playing with their iPhones.
Agree that prices have gone through the roof since the mid-nineties, but Families always went.
Used to get loads in the West Lower at Highbury, and it was a good thing. How else are kids supposed to get a taste of the atmosphere and the live match?
There was a schoolboys enclosure as far back as the fifties as far as I know, perhaps even further back than that (Olgit?), and I believe that our Family Enclosure started in the eighties as an way to have affordable tickets for a parent and his kids in a fairly heavily stewarded area, before Heysel, Hillsborough or the Premier League.
Oh, I'm well aware of all that. Not sure if you deliberately missed my point in your hurry to patronise ( :wink: ). Of course we got families going to Highbury but they were the minority by a long shot, just as we got JCL's going to Highbury, and the "old duffers" sitting up in the East Upper, and every other demographic too. My point is that if you take our shit new stadium for example they have diluted the old "historical singing ends" NB and CE by dispersing those people all over the place. And the people that made the most noise and atmosphere at a game were most deffo the groups of lads congregated in those ends - not all the noise, but MOST of it. What I'm refering to is the fact that the "match day experience" ( :roll: ) has been very cynically and deliberately homogenised and aimed at families and couples rather than at loud singing groups of lads.

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TheCook wrote:
augie wrote:Redaction.......the great bastion representing Gooners everywhere :roll: :oops: :banghead:
Give it a fuckin rest you knobhead ; never ever at any point has anyone associated with REDaction suggested they represent anyone but six Arsenal fans who formed the group originally.

This is part of the problem ; fucking dickheads from across the Irish sea, slagging off the atmosphere at a stadium you visit a couple of times a year on a weekend jolly up.

Go fuck yourself
Cook, you usually talk a bit of sense on here but that comment shows you in a particularly bad light. Whilst not racist, it is xenophobic and crass and we don't accept xenophobic comments on here. Banter is one thing, that is something else. But it is also insulting and disrespectful to lads that (mostly) have spent a fuckload more money, time and effort getting to games than you have. That doesn't for one minute make them more of a fan than you or any of that old shite, but it equally doesn't make them less of a fan than you just because you live locally or within a certain travelling distance. I've sat and stood beside plenty of Islington's finest as they stood or sat there and made not a sound - are they somehow not part of the problem because they live locally?

Personally I'll let this one go as it's the first time you've posted something so stupid, but I'd ask you not to repeat it.

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DB10GOONER wrote:
QuartzGooner wrote:
DB10GOONER wrote: Driving out those cowardly arsehole wannabe weekend warriors was needed because the game was dead on it's feet. They were a minority ruining it for the majority. The problem was that the media, police and many clubs assumed that ALL fans were lowlifes and decided to totally desensitise stadia and try and get FAMILIES going instead of groups of lads. They out priced (and demotivated) the regular non-hooligan fans (the people that originally made the noise without attacking people as part of a gutless mob) and replaced them with zero-attention-span idiots that sit there playing with their iPhones.
Agree that prices have gone through the roof since the mid-nineties, but Families always went.
Used to get loads in the West Lower at Highbury, and it was a good thing. How else are kids supposed to get a taste of the atmosphere and the live match?
There was a schoolboys enclosure as far back as the fifties as far as I know, perhaps even further back than that (Olgit?), and I believe that our Family Enclosure started in the eighties as an way to have affordable tickets for a parent and his kids in a fairly heavily stewarded area, before Heysel, Hillsborough or the Premier League.
Oh, I'm well aware of all that. Not sure if you deliberately missed my point in your hurry to patronise ( :wink: ). Of course we got families going to Highbury but they were the minority by a long shot, just as we got JCL's going to Highbury, and the "old duffers" sitting up in the East Upper, and every other demographic too. My point is that if you take our shit new stadium for example they have diluted the old "historical singing ends" NB and CE by dispersing those people all over the place. And the people that made the most noise and atmosphere at a game were most deffo the groups of lads congregated in those ends - not all the noise, but MOST of it. What I'm refering to is the fact that the "match day experience" ( :roll: ) has been very cynically and deliberately homogenised and aimed at families and couples rather than at loud singing groups of lads.
Yeah you are right there.
An element of a "Day out to a theme park" has been foisted on us.

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TheCook wrote:
augie wrote:Redaction.......the great bastion representing Gooners everywhere :roll: :oops: :banghead:
Give it a fuckin rest you knobhead ; never ever at any point has anyone associated with REDaction suggested they represent anyone but six Arsenal fans who formed the group originally.

This is part of the problem ; fucking dickheads from across the Irish sea, slagging off the atmosphere at a stadium you visit a couple of times a year on a weekend jolly up.

Go fuck yourself


Cook just for the record I own two season tickets and usually attend far more often than "a couple of times a year on a weekend jolly up" :roll: If I am reading your comments correctly though, it seems that it is ok for all the "local" Gooners to slag off the atmosphere (and let's be honest here, 95% of Gooners do moan about it) but that it is not ok for the rest of us ? :?
Anyway let me address your comments on redaction - to say that they are only representing the opinions of 6 fans only is being a bit economical with the truth don't you think ? Lets be honest here and admit that the club doesn't meet with them on the basis of they representing just 6 fans cos if they did then rodders, donaldo, Sid, Steve o, franksav and myself would have had our chance to let rip on the meaty issues with club representatives a long time ago :( There is no getting away from the fact that redaction, in recent seasons, have held pro wenger and anti usmanov marches - they can claim now that they have since found out that they were used by the club but that doesn't change what happened. If they really want to somewhat save face then why have they not come out publicly saying that they should not have held an anti usmanov march ? Why have they never come out publicly and slated either wenger or the club as a whole ? I know I am going over old ground here but I just wanted to clarify the reasons why they lack credibility imo.

Btw cook, throwing names like knobhead and dickhead at me is wasted really - I don't get prissy about it (unlike some) and figure that I have been called much worse in the past and will probably be called much worse in the future :lol:

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augie wrote:
TheCook wrote:
augie wrote:Redaction.......the great bastion representing Gooners everywhere :roll: :oops: :banghead:
Give it a fuckin rest you knobhead ; never ever at any point has anyone associated with REDaction suggested they represent anyone but six Arsenal fans who formed the group originally.

This is part of the problem ; fucking dickheads from across the Irish sea, slagging off the atmosphere at a stadium you visit a couple of times a year on a weekend jolly up.

Go fuck yourself



Btw cook, throwing names like knobhead and dickhead at me is wasted really - I don't get prissy about it (unlike some) and figure that I have been called much worse in the past and will probably be called much worse in the future :lol:

Fuckin A :barscarf: :lol:

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LeftfootlegendGooner wrote:
augie wrote:
TheCook wrote:
augie wrote:Redaction.......the great bastion representing Gooners everywhere :roll: :oops: :banghead:
Give it a fuckin rest you knobhead ; never ever at any point has anyone associated with REDaction suggested they represent anyone but six Arsenal fans who formed the group originally.

This is part of the problem ; fucking dickheads from across the Irish sea, slagging off the atmosphere at a stadium you visit a couple of times a year on a weekend jolly up.

Go fuck yourself



Btw cook, throwing names like knobhead and dickhead at me is wasted really - I don't get prissy about it (unlike some) and figure that I have been called much worse in the past and will probably be called much worse in the future :lol:

Fuckin A :barscarf: :lol:

I was gonna put down at the end that if it is the truth then I can't really argue against it but I figured one of ye arseholes would want the enjoyment of pointing that out :lol:

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LeftfootlegendGooner wrote:
augie wrote:
TheCook wrote:
augie wrote:Redaction.......the great bastion representing Gooners everywhere :roll: :oops: :banghead:
Give it a fuckin rest you knobhead ; never ever at any point has anyone associated with REDaction suggested they represent anyone but six Arsenal fans who formed the group originally.

This is part of the problem ; fucking dickheads from across the Irish sea, slagging off the atmosphere at a stadium you visit a couple of times a year on a weekend jolly up.

Go fuck yourself



Btw cook, throwing names like knobhead and dickhead at me is wasted really - I don't get prissy about it (unlike some) and figure that I have been called much worse in the past and will probably be called much worse in the future :lol:

Fuckin A :barscarf: :lol:
:lol:

The first bit of truth in this whole thread, hey lefty :barscarf: :wink:

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augie wrote:
LeftfootlegendGooner wrote:
augie wrote:
TheCook wrote:
augie wrote:Redaction.......the great bastion representing Gooners everywhere :roll: :oops: :banghead:
Give it a fuckin rest you knobhead ; never ever at any point has anyone associated with REDaction suggested they represent anyone but six Arsenal fans who formed the group originally.

This is part of the problem ; fucking dickheads from across the Irish sea, slagging off the atmosphere at a stadium you visit a couple of times a year on a weekend jolly up.

Go fuck yourself



Btw cook, throwing names like knobhead and dickhead at me is wasted really - I don't get prissy about it (unlike some) and figure that I have been called much worse in the past and will probably be called much worse in the future :lol:

Fuckin A :barscarf: :lol:

I was gonna put down at the end that if it is the truth then I can't really argue against it but I figured one of ye arseholes would want the enjoyment of pointing that out :lol:

:lol:

Proud to say I was the quickest arsehole :shock: :lol:

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flash gunner wrote:
LeftfootlegendGooner wrote:
augie wrote:
TheCook wrote:
augie wrote:Redaction.......the great bastion representing Gooners everywhere :roll: :oops: :banghead:
Give it a fuckin rest you knobhead ; never ever at any point has anyone associated with REDaction suggested they represent anyone but six Arsenal fans who formed the group originally.

This is part of the problem ; fucking dickheads from across the Irish sea, slagging off the atmosphere at a stadium you visit a couple of times a year on a weekend jolly up.

Go fuck yourself



Btw cook, throwing names like knobhead and dickhead at me is wasted really - I don't get prissy about it (unlike some) and figure that I have been called much worse in the past and will probably be called much worse in the future :lol:

Fuckin A :barscarf: :lol:
:lol:

The first bit of truth in this whole thread, hey lefty :barscarf: :wink:
Indeed Flash.......indeed :lol:

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What a fucking cock thing to post cook.

augie is a bellend. :lol:

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TheCook wrote:
QuartzGooner wrote:
TheCook wrote:
augie wrote:Redaction.......the great bastion representing Gooners everywhere :roll: :oops: :banghead:
Give it a rest you knobhead ; never ever at any point has anyone associated with REDaction suggested they represent anyone but six Arsenal fans who formed the group originally.

This is part of the problem ; dickheads from across the Irish sea, slagging off the atmosphere at a stadium you visit a couple of times a year on a weekend jolly up.
Cook

I know you have put in work for Redaction and personally I think they are a good thing, all be it with a limited remit.
The "Irish" part is uncalled for.

And do not take it personally, Augie is curmudgeonly at the best of times.
If he won a million Euros tax free he would moan that it was not two million, rather than celebrating his good fortune!

So what do I call it? Just 'the sea' ?? 8)

Seeing as your post was aimed at augie you could have said dickheads from across the water,see how simple tht was :roll:

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