markyp wrote:has any manager in the whole history of football management gone so long without success then gone on to start winning league titles and every other title out there???
i agree.
clough had it. lost it.
dalglish had it. lost it.
venables had it. lost it. (he managed Barca FFS)
Robson had it. lost it (the England Manager, not that drunken plank).
George Knew. Then he didn't.
football moves on, the game evolves and coaches get left behind.
I do understand it - you need a big ego to be a successful leader, and that ego gives you the confidence to make decisions and follow your judgement. which is great when you're right, but can be a bad thing when you're wrong.
ego for football managers, futures traders and poker players has to be tempered with outside influences - Wenger, like Nick Leeson (who brought down Barings Bank) refuses to believe he's wrong, as Leeson did. so Leeson doubled up his position. and again and again, fully convinced he was right and the singapore market was wrong.
eventually he broke the bank with a eight billion pounds loss from a 20 million pound original loss.
because no one could convince him he was wrong - sound familiar ?
its the same ego that convinces poker players that their 'system' works....
Now, I hate to admit it but there is a reason that Harvard Business School pays Fergie a very large sum of money to lecture there each Summer - he is a very very good manager. not just a football manager - as others have said, he realises the need to freshen up the coaching staff, to change out the medical team, to change his tactics (like dropping rooney for the more mobile RvP last night).
as drunk and red faced obnoxious git that he is, he clearly recognises his own limitations, and the need for teamwork in management.
The Wise Woman doesn't.
neither did, clough, venables, dalglish or George etc.
So its not the board, or the stadium, or City or Chelsea - if it was why are we only 2 points ahead of Everton after 28 games ?