Goalline technology for 2013/14

[kiwomya]

Official....

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2013 ... technology

Good ol Hawk-Eye.

[QuartzGooner]

About time too!

[1989]

Bad news for Man Utd.

[augie]

Mixed feelings about this tbh - on one hand I understand the importance of these crucial calls but on the other hand I do fear that this move will open the floodgates and there will be calls for video evidence to be used on offsides, handballs etc. I love the nfl and I know and accept that they use tv replays in some cases but football is a totally different game to american football as their game is stop start anyway so it doesnt matter much but in our football it will just slow down the flow of the game and will not help the game.
I dont stand up for refs as a rule and I dont go along with this bullshit about reversing refs decisions after the game undermines the match officials but I do wonder why refs are held to a higher standard than players All players make mistakes and bad decisions in a game so why do we expect match officials to be any different ? No doubt that someone will make the argument about how much is at stake with every game but that is just about money and not your money or my money though - the money at stake is that of wealthy players and managers who might lose their win bonus or money that will be lost by the already wealthy owners so basically this comes down to greed Please dont argue that this is about getting decisions right or about helping refs cos this is technology which will only available to the top league(s) where of course the money is

For me mistakes are a part of a game and always have been and the game has already changed so much already that I soon wont recognise it from the game I grew up loving

[northbank123]

Just seems needless really when you put it in perspective. On the one or two occasions a season that a borderline goal-line decision is incorrect we are told that the debate raises its ugly head yet again.

Meanwhile, hundreds of goals a season are incorrectly given/ruled out based on offside, tens of penalties are given where it was a blatant dive or not given where somebody has clearly been clattered and there are plenty of goals that come directly from free-kicks or corners that are incorrectly given (and who knows how many goals that would have been scored had corners/free-kicks been given when they should have been?).

I really don't get how people think this is such a crucial part of the game given that it accounts for probably well under 1% of contentious goals.

I'm not particularly concerned as long as it stops here but I'm a bit worried it will lead to a further trend of introducing more technology.

[QuartzGooner]

No problems with it, always seems very unfair to me if a ball crosses the line and a goal is not given.

I have no problem with it being extended for fouls and offsides too.
But I would have an appeal system, each manager can question three decisions per 90 minutes, with a further appeal if a game goes to extra time.
In the NFL such appeals are resolved quickly, certainly speedier than a group of players surrounding the referee trying to get him to change his mind on a decision, which rarely happens, and resolved with video replays being shown in normal and slow motion on a screen so the fans can understand the decision.

I do not care that it will not happen outside the Premier League for now, because the Premier League is where nearly all of the the big money and big teams are.

[donaldo]

I really don't get how people think this is such a crucial part of the game given that it accounts for probably well under 1% of contentious goals.

I'm not particularly concerned as long as it stops here but I'm a bit worried it will lead to a further trend of introducing more technology.

So in Cardiff in 2001 when Henchoz handled a Henry shot on the line in the cup final which would have meant a red card and a penalty you said oh well these things happen who cares that we lost a cup final.

If technology means the right decisions are being made it has to be a good thing

[Perryashburtongroves]

Don't worry about paying for this new technology. Just get the linesman to stand in a decent position, do his job properly and raise that flag of his when the ball crosses the line.

[Skooner]

I really don't get how people think this is such a crucial part of the game given that it accounts for probably well under 1% of contentious goals.

I'm not particularly concerned as long as it stops here but I'm a bit worried it will lead to a further trend of introducing more technology.

So in Cardiff in 2001 when Henchoz handled a Henry shot on the line in the cup final which would have meant a red card and a penalty you said oh well these things happen who cares that we lost a cup final.

If technology means the right decisions are being made it has to be a good thing

Where do you stop though? Disputed throw ins? Was the wall 10 yard away when they took the free kick? If there is technology that can prove decisively and instantly if the ball crossed the line then I am all for it, the majority of other decisions are not 100% certain so I'd rather leave them alone compared to having to stop the game for several angles which may still be inconclusive.

[northbank123]

I really don't get how people think this is such a crucial part of the game given that it accounts for probably well under 1% of contentious goals.

I'm not particularly concerned as long as it stops here but I'm a bit worried it will lead to a further trend of introducing more technology.

So in Cardiff in 2001 when Henchoz handled a Henry shot on the line in the cup final which would have meant a red card and a penalty you said oh well these things happen who cares that we lost a cup final.

If technology means the right decisions are being made it has to be a good thing

Yeah pretty much word for word

If you start applying it to penalty decisions think about how many borderline calls there are most weeks where fans, pundits and ex-refs cannot agree whether it was a penalty after seeing multiple replays at different speeds from different angles. Think about how many accusations of bias there are now and how those would go through the roof if a video ref was asked to make a difficult judgement call in a huge match whilst the game was stopped.

[StuartL]

I really don't get how people think this is such a crucial part of the game given that it accounts for probably well under 1% of contentious goals.

I'm not particularly concerned as long as it stops here but I'm a bit worried it will lead to a further trend of introducing more technology.

So in Cardiff in 2001 when Henchoz handled a Henry shot on the line in the cup final which would have meant a red card and a penalty you said oh well these things happen who cares that we lost a cup final.

If technology means the right decisions are being made it has to be a good thing

Absolutely, it is ridiculous that every man and his dog gets to see what actually happens bar the match officials who have to make a split second judgement.

Personally I would have offside calls made via technology too - easily to alert the ref, play stops. The poor old lino cannot watch a ball close to the touchine (to see if it goes out of play) and look across the line to see if a forward is offside at the same time - it is impossible to do so.

[MK Gould]

I really don't get how people think this is such a crucial part of the game given that it accounts for probably well under 1% of contentious goals.

I'm not particularly concerned as long as it stops here but I'm a bit worried it will lead to a further trend of introducing more technology.

So in Cardiff in 2001 when Henchoz handled a Henry shot on the line in the cup final which would have meant a red card and a penalty you said oh well these things happen who cares that we lost a cup final.

If technology means the right decisions are being made it has to be a good thing

Will it be used for that type of decision though? I got the impression that it would just confirm whether the ball had crossed the line.

It surely has to be welcomed. But as others have said, the ball over the line issue is only an issue about half a dozen times a season. I'd prefer to go the whole hog and bring in the video ref. If we can see exactly what has happened on Sky within seconds then no reason why a video ref/panel shouldn't be able to do the same thing without interrupting play. It's probably quicker than a ref going over to confer with the linesman.

[beck]

No problems with it, always seems very unfair to me if a ball crosses the line and a goal is not given.

I have no problem with it being extended for fouls and offsides too.
But I would have an appeal system, each manager can question three decisions per 90 minutes, with a further appeal if a game goes to extra time.
In the NFL such appeals are resolved quickly, certainly speedier than a group of players surrounding the referee trying to get him to change his mind on a decision, which rarely happens, and resolved with video replays being shown in normal and slow motion on a screen so the fans can understand the decision.

I do not care that it will not happen outside the Premier League for now, because the Premier League is where nearly all of the the big money and big teams are.

can,t stand the idea of managerial challenges
if there are none or 400 clear cut decisions i would rather it be at the behest of the 4th official watching a monitor for the blatently obvious.
i don,t want it played out as crowd entertainment or for gamesmanship
watch the monitor tell the ref make the decision
i,m not averse to them showing replays to us but not to slow the game up just part and parcel of the mileu
it does seem a bit baffling for example when koscielny was sent off v man city it happened right in front of me but i had no clue what had gone on.
listening to people behind recieving texts as to why he was dismissed is galling
i think i am grown up to be able to say yes the ref was right
thats the thing if a decision can be right i want it to be right
i don,t need to whoop and hollar in anticipation of a decision
the game is exciting enough

[DB10GOONER]

Mixed feelings about this tbh - on one hand I understand the importance of these crucial calls but on the other hand I do fear that this move will open the floodgates and there will be calls for video evidence to be used on offsides, handballs etc. I love the nfl and I know and accept that they use tv replays in some cases but football is a totally different game to american football as their game is shit.

Fixed that for ya, augie.

[flash gunner]

About time too!

THIS^