Do ManUre get help from referees or is this a myth?

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So basically we haven't won the league or any trophy in the last x amount years was all down to refs favouring other teams and going against us ,thank fuck for tht and there was me thinking Wenger was the reason.God forbid he could be blamed for our trophy less seasons.

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Ref blows for half time as shitty on the attack. It's just these little things that always seem to go in their favour. Rooney two footed tackle not even discussed by commentators :twisted:

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Peeman wrote:Ref blows for half time as shitty on the attack. It's just these little things that always seem to go in their favour. Rooney two footed tackle not even discussed by commentators :twisted:
TBF he has given more city's way than Manure. City were fannying about with no urgency knowing that the whistle was about to go. I love a good conspiracy theory, and mine is he's giving a bit to City atm so he can give a soft pen if manure look like losing.

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Chippy wrote:
Peeman wrote:Ref blows for half time as shitty on the attack. It's just these little things that always seem to go in their favour. Rooney two footed tackle not even discussed by commentators :twisted:
TBF he has given more city's way than Manure. City were fannying about with no urgency knowing that the whistle was about to go. I love a good conspiracy theory, and mine is he's giving a bit to City atm so he can give a soft pen if manure look like losing.
Interesting that because if there was a conspiracy of decisions it wouldn't be from the first whistle of every game so going through counting up every decision could mean fuck all. It would be big decisions in crucial parts of games.

I don't know if there is or there isn't but one thing I think mancini is right about is that a lot of teams in the league bend over at old toilet and don't expend as much energy as they should because they don't think they can get anything.

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LDB wrote: I don't know if there is or there isn't but one thing I think mancini is right about is that a lot of teams in the league bend over at old toilet and don't expend as much energy as they should because they don't think they can get anything.
I completely agree with that. Although tbh United have earned that reputation to an extent (although still doesn't excuse his proteges handing him 6 points a season most of the time!).

I hardly think Citeh were brilliant every home game that year where they only dropped 2 points (I think) at home in one calendar year. We benefited from the same thing with what I would consider an artificially impressive home record from 2009-last year. It was like a light came on and teams realised that we weren't actually all that and we have since had some very average teams coming and playing attacking football and getting results, which happened very very rarely the first 5 or 6 years at our new place.

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Good to see Dean tried giving United an extra minute beyond the 4 indicated to have one last attack and corner. Yes there were a couple of stoppages during injury time but they never seem to get added on when we play?

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LDB wrote:Good to see Dean tried giving United an extra minute beyond the 4 indicated to have one last attack and corner. Yes there were a couple of stoppages during injury time but they never seem to get added on when we play?
Fucking paranoid or what? There were 2 subs and injuries and City nearly scored. Anyway glad to see Manchester beat Surrey Utd.

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Chippy wrote:
LDB wrote:Good to see Dean tried giving United an extra minute beyond the 4 indicated to have one last attack and corner. Yes there were a couple of stoppages during injury time but they never seem to get added on when we play?
Fucking paranoid or what? There were 2 subs and injuries and City nearly scored. Anyway glad to see Manchester beat Surrey Utd.
Not really, there are loads of matches where the ball is barely in play for half of injury time yet the ref always seems to blow up on the dot. Definitely doesn't allow a counter attack to start 20 seconds after the 4 minutes..

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LDB wrote:
Chippy wrote:
Peeman wrote:Ref blows for half time as shitty on the attack. It's just these little things that always seem to go in their favour. Rooney two footed tackle not even discussed by commentators :twisted:
TBF he has given more city's way than Manure. City were fannying about with no urgency knowing that the whistle was about to go. I love a good conspiracy theory, and mine is he's giving a bit to City atm so he can give a soft pen if manure look like losing.
Interesting that because if there was a conspiracy of decisions it wouldn't be from the first whistle of every game so going through counting up every decision could mean fuck all. It would be big decisions in crucial parts of games.

I don't know if there is or there isn't but one thing I think mancini is right about is that a lot of teams in the league bend over at old toilet and don't expend as much energy as they should because they don't think they can get anything.

Teams go there and rest players because they're onto a beating anyway, more like it.

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last year ManUre were only in it because of refs
this year Fergie should be demanding a full Riley refund - they've not really needed their mates in black

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highburyJD wrote:last year ManUre were only in it because of refs
this year Fergie should be demanding a full Riley refund - they've not really needed their mates in black
Too right. First we were the development club for shitty, then we flog RvP to ManUre for half what we should get. He's all the difference for them.

Was a ref a year or two back confessed at the pressure and intimidation of being on the pitch at Auld Trafford. Perhaps some are breathing easier with the pressure RvP has lifted from their frail shoulders.

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flash gunner wrote: Decisions even themselves out over a season.
No that's a myth. Actually I never understood why that should happen. Probably they even themselves out over 10 seasons or so but 38 games are not enough. Not even close.

Don't want to imply the refs (deliberately or not) help United though.

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Top Londoner wrote:
LDB wrote:
Chippy wrote:
Peeman wrote:Ref blows for half time as shitty on the attack. It's just these little things that always seem to go in their favour. Rooney two footed tackle not even discussed by commentators :twisted:
TBF he has given more city's way than Manure. City were fannying about with no urgency knowing that the whistle was about to go. I love a good conspiracy theory, and mine is he's giving a bit to City atm so he can give a soft pen if manure look like losing.
Interesting that because if there was a conspiracy of decisions it wouldn't be from the first whistle of every game so going through counting up every decision could mean fuck all. It would be big decisions in crucial parts of games.

I don't know if there is or there isn't but one thing I think mancini is right about is that a lot of teams in the league bend over at old toilet and don't expend as much energy as they should because they don't think they can get anything.

Teams go there and rest players because they're onto a beating anyway, more like it.
yep

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kite wrote:
flash gunner wrote: Decisions even themselves out over a season.
No that's a myth. Actually I never understood why that should happen. Probably they even themselves out over 10 seasons or so but 38 games are not enough. Not even close.

Don't want to imply the refs (deliberately or not) help United though.
A sp*rs fan i worked with used to say Arsenal got more luck than them so i made him a bet and we marked down over the course of a season game changing referee wrong decisions or last minute goals which he said was lucky :roll: anyway over the course of a season there was 1% difference between the two teams and i won the bet. ie things even themselves out over a season

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Flashhhhhhhhhhh!

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