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I wonder did the drunken Scott tell Turnip that Silvestre is even more sh1t than you think before we bought him? :roll:

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Good piece from Ian Herbert in i newspaper today. Not particularly analytical (not that it needs to be) but identifies exactly why Arsenal fans should be pissed off at Wenger for selling van Judas to United and his subsequent conduct relating to the matter.

Arsene managed to stave off the first signs of the media vultures earlier this season with a few timely results but a combination of van Judas winning the PL for United and us missing out on our coveted VT would see them well and truly circling. Journalists have already sharpened their knives and writing articles on van Judas' sale is what they'll use to pretend they aren't fickle when they slam the man they've put unconditionally on a pedestal.

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I wonder if any journalist might have the cajones to question the despot at the final match press conference?

That would be interesting, even if meant him spitting out his dummy again.
Is no-one at Arsenal accountable any more?

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rodders999 wrote:I wonder did the drunken Scott tell Turnip that Silvestre is even more sh1t than you think before we bought him? :roll:
:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Gervhinio to Arsenal- 10.8 Million
Lewandowski to Borussia Dortmund- 4.5 Million

Wenger Knows.

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Kieranp97 wrote:Gervhinio to Arsenal- 10.8 Million
Lewandowski to Borussia Dortmund- 4.5 Million

Wenger Knows.
:roll: You could go on all day with that sort of thinking. Maybe all the clubs wanting to pay 30M for the guy should have known better as well, eh? It's not like Arsenal haven't had their fair share of stars purchased for little to nothing compared to others.

Fabregas to Arsenal - 0.5 million
Anderson to Manchester United - £20 million

Ferguson knows.

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kiwomya wrote:
Kieranp97 wrote:Gervhinio to Arsenal- 10.8 Million
Lewandowski to Borussia Dortmund- 4.5 Million

Wenger Knows.
:roll: You could go on all day with that sort of thinking. Maybe all the clubs wanting to pay 30M for the guy should have known better as well, eh? It's not like Arsenal haven't had their fair share of stars purchased for little to nothing compared to others.

Fabregas to Arsenal - 0.5 million
Anderson to Manchester United - £20 million

Ferguson knows.
Wenger knows fuck all really, still shops in the French markets perhaps he should look at the Polish markets instead of being so narrow minded and chucking all our money into his homeland league! :roll:

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To be fair you can't keep comparing transfers. We've had good ones we've had bad ones (and recently we've had more bad than good) but then so has everyone else. Im sure even Dortmund have signed a few lemons along the way.

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flash gunner wrote:To be fair you can't keep comparing transfers. We've had good ones we've had bad ones (and recently we've had more bad than good) but then so has everyone else. Im sure even Dortmund have signed a few lemons along the way.
Exactly. There are so many shit players and so many great signings made every season by other clubs.

More useful to compare our signings to what we'd expect from the price tag and what we needed from the signing. In which case most of them fall down anyway.

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flash gunner wrote:To be fair you can't keep comparing transfers. We've had good ones we've had bad ones (and recently we've had more bad than good) but then so has everyone else. Im sure even Dortmund have signed a few lemons along the way.
Agree with that, but it's just the markets that we look into are too slim and always are, Wenger is so blinkered he would never think of going to other markets other than the African and French markets that he always shops in... he's far too stuck in his fucking ways...

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franksav63 wrote:
flash gunner wrote:To be fair you can't keep comparing transfers. We've had good ones we've had bad ones (and recently we've had more bad than good) but then so has everyone else. Im sure even Dortmund have signed a few lemons along the way.
Agree with that, but it's just the markets that we look into are too slim and always are, Wenger is so blinkered he would never think of going to other markets other than the African and French markets that he always shops in... he's far too stuck in his fucking ways...
Problem is every other club is looking in the markets that we used to have the pick off. I've heard people say there's been no quality in France in the last decade - bollocks. Just because we've signed Koscielny, Gervinho, Cygan and Giroud in that time doesn't mean there's no quality there, just that they're going elsewhere. Pundits love(d) to rave about "JT" and "Lamps" but Chelsea's success was built around a core of players from Ligue 1 every bit as much as English players.

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franksav63 wrote:
kiwomya wrote:
Kieranp97 wrote:Gervhinio to Arsenal- 10.8 Million
Lewandowski to Borussia Dortmund- 4.5 Million

Wenger Knows.
:roll: You could go on all day with that sort of thinking. Maybe all the clubs wanting to pay 30M for the guy should have known better as well, eh? It's not like Arsenal haven't had their fair share of stars purchased for little to nothing compared to others.

Fabregas to Arsenal - 0.5 million
Anderson to Manchester United - £20 million

Ferguson knows.
Wenger knows fuck all really, still shops in the French markets perhaps he should look at the Polish markets instead of being so narrow minded and chucking all our money into his homeland league! :roll:



You've got a point about Players Like Fabregas, But that was when we were successful and had David Dein.

Wenger is clueless, Everyday I lose support and respect for him because he will buy a player like Gervinio, and pay ridiculous wages for Park, Chamakh and Denilson. When we could be Investing that money into a World Class player like Lewandowski or David Villa, Yes I belive FFP is a good idea and spending only what you have is logical, but save that money that's going down the drain on players like bendter. And stick your neck out like Fergie did with RVP and spend 20-30mil on a replacement for the class we keep losing. The way he is running the club is not good enough,it seems as if he's just lost respect for us gooners, by settling for 4th place trophy every season and getting knocked out of cups by Bradford and Blackburn.. We should be INVINCIBLES. Vieira, Henry, Bergkamp, Pires, campbell, To name a few. These are players we've lost and just haven't replaced. Its not success anymore. 8 years without a trophy is not good enough when your Arsenal simple as, We are one of the greatest teams to ever win a trophy.

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Is Wenger the man who went all season unbeaten and Arsenal are known as the Invincibles? Is Wenger the man who won a couple of doubles? Is wenger the man who has won a few trophies? Is wenger the man who hasn't won a trophie for 8years but got to a Champions league final and a league cup final in that time? Is Wenger the man who hasnt been able to compete financially with foriegn investors recently, but soon will be able to just like Bayern, when the stadiums paid for? I think I'll stick by him a little bit longer, and watch him win the prem again.
Roll on saturday and stuff the mancs.

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franksav63 wrote:
flash gunner wrote:To be fair you can't keep comparing transfers. We've had good ones we've had bad ones (and recently we've had more bad than good) but then so has everyone else. Im sure even Dortmund have signed a few lemons along the way.
Agree with that, but it's just the markets that we look into are too slim and always are, Wenger is so blinkered he would never think of going to other markets other than the African and French markets that he always shops in... .
I agree he buys many French and French speaking African players, but there have been a few from elsewhere, to name a few recent ones but not all:

Ramsey - Wales
Szczesny and Fabianski - Poland
Almunia, Cesc, Cazorla, Monreal - Spain
Mertesacker, Gnabry, Podolski, Eisfeld - Germany
Benayoun - Israel
Angha - Switzerland
Santos, Wellington - Brazil
Zelalem - Germany/Ethiopia/USA
Frimpong - England/Ghana
Arshavin - Russia
Park - South Korea
Inamoto, Miyaichi - Japan
Campbell - Costa Rica
Galindo - Bolivia
Rosicky - Czech Republic

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QuartzGooner wrote:
franksav63 wrote:
flash gunner wrote:To be fair you can't keep comparing transfers. We've had good ones we've had bad ones (and recently we've had more bad than good) but then so has everyone else. Im sure even Dortmund have signed a few lemons along the way.
Agree with that, but it's just the markets that we look into are too slim and always are, Wenger is so blinkered he would never think of going to other markets other than the African and French markets that he always shops in... .
I agree he buys many French and French speaking African players, but there have been a few from elsewhere, to name a few recent ones but not all:

Ramsey - Wales
Szczesny and Fa
Almunia, Cesc, Cazorla, Monreal - Spain
Mertesacker, Gnabry, Podolski, Eisfeld - Germany
Benayoun - Israel
Angha - Switzerland
Santos, Wellington - Brazil
Zelalem - Germany/Ethiopia/USA
Frimpong - England/Ghana
Arshavin - Russia
Park - South Korea
Inamoto, Miyaichi - Japan
Campbell - Costa Rica
Galindo - Bolivia
Rosicky - Czech Republic
Jenkinson and the Ox

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