As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
Wenger on Sir Alex Ferguson's transfer plans… I don't know but he will not sign them from us!
Well, of course not - we've already been stripped of our best assets
we have no one he would want
They need central midfielders and he has a proven track record of buying the best young English talent around so I wouldn't be surprised if he makes a move for Jack at some point in the next couple of years. Ever since we let Chelsea bully us into selling Europe's best left back for Gallas + £5m we've basically allowed any domestic rival to come and shit on our doorstep and City and United have gladly joined the party. Cazorla and Wilshere won't be here in 2 years time
1989 wrote:Hate how he takes all this Fergie and RVP business as being one big joke. Spineless manager.
May 2014 just can't come soon enough.
Don't do it yourself bud.......Stanley's little sell-out / money making machine won't be going anywhere all the while the virtual trophy gleams brightly in the imaginary trophy cabinet.......come on over and have a cold one, a rack of ribs and get moving to the sounds of the Away Boyz
ONE ARSENE WENGER........THERE'S ONLY ONE ARSENE WENGER
Wenger is a dictator. It is well recognised by those in and around the club...history has many examples of how dictators exit - suicide or revolution. What will It be at the Emirates ?
I mentioned it on the match thread, but I thought it was appalling that AW was nowhere to be seen during the guard of honour. Us being in such a sickening position was nothing to do with our first eleven; after all, it's not their fault that they're not good enough to challenge for the title. They didn't assemble the team. The reason shit like this now happens to us is because of Wenger, and the board. For us to have to perform a guard of honour is one thing, but for AW to hide behind the scenes whilst it's taking place - and not standing in the dugout backing-up his players - is pathetic. He totally left his players out to dry.
VoiceOfReason wrote:I mentioned it on the match thread, but I thought it was appalling that AW was nowhere to be seen during the guard of honour. Us being in such a sickening position was nothing to do with our first eleven; after all, it's not their fault that they're not good enough to challenge for the title. They didn't assemble the team. The reason shit like this now happens to us is because of Wenger, and the board. For us to have to perform a guard of honour is one thing, but for AW to hide behind the scenes whilst it's taking place - and not standing in the dugout backing-up his players - is pathetic. He totally left his players out to dry.
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Besides he's been doing it to the fans for some time now.
I'm still against Arsene but I can understand why some folk like Steve I and Highbury JD have the views they have. If they expect that the best we can achieve is CL qualification then from their point of view Arsene is succeeding.
As far as saying that there is certainty that Arsenal will be up winning trophies in the next 10 years I think there is one other club that will be a massive problem in that regard. Manure have massive revenue streams to the point that even with the gigantic debt they have they can still afford to spend large sums and at the same time service the massive sums of interest they pay.
What we are missing that a lot of clubs have done is to speculate to accumulate and not use money as an excuse for failing to win things. It breeds the wrong mentality- if you are admitting that you would take 2nd for the next 20 years then what sort of message does that send.
The jam tomorrow approach is wearing thin and especially with the prices we pay, fans are entitled to feel a little bit hacked off that there has been no sign of a pay off.
Myles Palmer on arsenalnewsreview.co.uk posted a couple of months ago that Wenger has bought a flat in Paris, though personally I see that as by itself no indication of intent for a Frenchman with cash to invest.
Today Paul Hayward in The Daily Telegraph writes that "Unconfirmed reports say the last year of his [Wenger's] current deal, which ends next summer, is optional, which would mean he could leave without breaking the spirit of previous pronouncements on seeing out his contract."
QuartzGooner wrote:Wenger going to Paris St. Germain this summer?
Myles Palmer on arsenalnewsreview.co.uk posted a couple of months ago that Wenger has bought a flat in Paris, though personally I see that as by itself no indication of intent for a Frenchman with cash to invest.
Today Paul Hayward in The Daily Telegraph writes that "Unconfirmed reports say the last year of his [Wenger's] current deal, which ends next summer, is optional, which would mean he could leave without breaking the spirit of previous pronouncements on seeing out his contract."
flash gunner wrote:If you look back to 2007ish Donaldo, who as far as i can see is one of the most Anti-Wengerites these days, was on here telling people to give him time he'll get things sorted out. Many accusations have been levelled at this forum over time and one of them is this is THE most anti Wenger forum about but i find find it refreshing to see how people like donaldo have changed and that he or any of us haven't always been frustrated by Wenger and the current set up.
I have no problem with people still trusting Wengers judgement but looking back we all did at one point or another and rightly or wrongly views have changed
it does certainly seem to be 'up there' in the antiwengerleague (lol remember the anti nowhere league? Shit band who set out to be shit and achieved it lol ) as forum go. I see your point about it refreshing to see folk can change their standpoint although I wonder how much of that is down to the envioronment? I would hazard a guess a large percentage. Makes it neither right nor wrong, but it is certainly a place where the general view is perhaps greater than the sum of the parts and rather like a black hole is difficult to avoid getting sucked in. (obv this is how I'd see it ofc)
Looking back through the thread the folk still about and commenting tend to be those who 'follow the local path' as it were and those who stand against them seem to either have fucked off or are lurking to await the inevitable sea change and come flooding back to shout I told you so when people like me are proved right (perhaps)
I dont remember that band..... Maybe people have followed the crowd but having been on here for far too long now you can see the steady change in peoples views. As the thread shows in 2008 there was a few wanting change and steadily, possibly following the decline in our fortunes, others have changed too. Even mods brazilianGOONER and then DB10 not that long ago was saying i'll give him til the summer to sort things out. When it didn't happen opinions have changed. As i said i dont mind people having the view he is still the right man and enjoy the non-abusive debate of it but i feel you/they are wrong
Flash – I Should clarify that I have been questioning Wenger’s policies on and off the pitch since the failure to strengthen in Jan 2008 cost us a very winnable league. I then decided I’d support his “project” until May 2010, out of loyalty and hope. Which I did, but still always questioning his policies. When we were still potless in May 2010 (but more importantly, when it was very obvious that Arsene was not going to do what needed to be done by getting rid of the rubbish) I decided that’s that – enough! I’ve wanted him out since then. No one can say I didn’t give the man a fair chance!
Steve I – I find your summation that those critical of Arsene on here are merely “follow(ing) the local path” a tad insulting to be honest. I for one really don’t give much of a shit what other people believe; I speak (and write) only for myself. I love and respect Arsene for what he achieved at our great club between 1997 and 2006 but I no longer believe he is the right man to lead us to what should be the only thing that matters to football fans; trophies! We are football fans – not accountants or economists – finances should NEVER be spoken of as if they are the equal of winning a trophy. Wenger has proven by failure season after season that he is no longer the right man for the job. Many things lead me to this conclusion, but mostly: the continued renewal (and improving) of rubbish players’ contracts; the refusal to be pragmatic and drop Tippy Tappy Barca-Lite and play to the strengths of the players he has not the players he wishes he had; and things like selling our best player to our supposed rivals.
Ask yourself this; would Ferguson ever, ever, in a million years, sell his best player to a team he viewed as rivals? Then ask yourself why that is?
Two things mate, 1) Yous an akb innit (Flash outed you mate, not me) , 2) Didn't Fergie sell Tevez to Man City, at the time I would have said he was certainly one of their best players, or am I just being pernickety
you can see the steady change in peoples views. As the thread shows in 2008 there was a few wanting change and steadily, possibly following the decline in our fortunes, others have changed too. Even mods brazilianGOONER and then DB10 not that long ago was saying i'll give him til the summer to sort things out. When it didn't happen opinions have changed. As i said i dont mind people having the view he is still the right man and enjoy the non-abusive debate of it but i feel you/they are wrong
(Flash outed you mate, not me) 
