Arsenal v Manure

[Brady's left peg]

I don't care if he's been our best defender for years and is "fed up", he has been shite second half of the season and looks like he can't be arsed.

You bastard well should.

The guy has probably seen his weekly wage matched by more than half of the under performing SOB's on the pitch. None more so than Walcott just up the flank ahead of him.

Where is the man management, where is the reward? 2 years ago Sagna was the best full back in the world. Bar none.

He should have been rewarded as such.

The extent to which some people are protected from criticism is alarming. Sagna may have been undervalued and better than his peers but his performances since Christmas have ranged from hapless to disinterested. Players have been crucified on here for far less.

I don't give a fuck who plays for us, nobody has the right to stop putting a shift in when they're wearing the red shirt regardless of how shit their team-mates are. Especially when he's been picking up his wage through two long injury spells in the past 18 months.

I'm a big fan of blaming Wenger for every slight thing that goes wrong in my life but Sagna going from top class to comedic calamity is a bit much to pin on him. The player has to be taking a long hard look at himself.

Protected from criticism? Put the crack pipe down brah. Criticism doesn't range from:

Sagna's a fucking idiot.
Never mind faith, I've got a P forty f***ing 5 for Sagna....c**t.
Sagna was horrible. Hope he knows why we didnt give him an extension because that was pitiful

To:
Sagna should never play for Arsenal again in my opinion

When you have been one of your failing clubs best performing players for a number of years, not months, you get a bit of leeway.

When you turn up one game in five and dial in the other four, you're gonna get criticised. So Bendtner, Vela, Walcott, Denilson, Vermaelen, Gibbs, Eboue and I could go on and on, you're gonna get called out.

Sagna ain't at his best right now, but his half best is more than we keep in reserve.

Trust me, Jenkinson is not the messiah.

No he is not...... but he will work his socks and put in a shift unlike Sagna who has been out of sorts for a good while now. In addition being a true Gooner Jenkinson will play with a bit of heart, where as Sagna doesn't seem to give a shit any more.

[LeftfootlegendGooner]

Good to see that after 5 years, 4 and a half of complete awesomeness, Sagna is being fucked off to high heaven.

Really, he hasn't been able to clear the first man when crossing the ball for all of those five years

I think he has been the most overrated player at Arsenal for a very long time

And who have we had on the other flank/supporting him on the right pinging in those dead eye balls to the forwards heads and feet?

No-one right.

And since it isn't the right backs primary role to provide that service, I ain't gonna give a fuck about that.

Christ sake man, Lee Dixon is afforded legendary status and rightly so, but what could that mother fucker do from the by line?

Your quite an aggressive poster fella but it don't make you right

Just to add theo is 100 times better at crossing the ball than sagna, ever time sagna gets the ball with acres of space un der no pressure whatsoever I always say the same thing to whoever I'm watching the game with....."I bet this doesn't clesr the FIRST man".

And it was exactly the same today...total shiteness

[Number 5]

No he is not...... but he will work his socks and put in a shift unlike Sagna who has been out of sorts for a good while now. In addition being a true Gooner Jenkinson will play with a bit of heart, where as Sagna doesn't seem to give a shit any more.

Mate, Vermaelen plays with heart.

And I don't want four of him in the back line either.

[Number 5]

Good to see that after 5 years, 4 and a half of complete awesomeness, Sagna is being fucked off to high heaven.

Really, he hasn't been able to clear the first man when crossing the ball for all of those five years

I think he has been the most overrated player at Arsenal for a very long time

And who have we had on the other flank/supporting him on the right pinging in those dead eye balls to the forwards heads and feet?

No-one right.

And since it isn't the right backs primary role to provide that service, I ain't gonna give a fuck about that.

Christ sake man, Lee Dixon is afforded legendary status and rightly so, but what could that mother fucker do from the by line?

Your quite an aggressive poster fella but it don't make you right

Agressive? You've met me in real life dude, I'm anything but. I just swear when I talk.

Don't mean I'm being agressive.

[Brady's left peg]

No he is not...... but he will work his socks and put in a shift unlike Sagna who has been out of sorts for a good while now. In addition being a true Gooner Jenkinson will play with a bit of heart, where as Sagna doesn't seem to give a shit any more.

Mate, Vermaelen plays with heart.

And I don't want four of him in the back line either.

You agree then that he at least puts in a shift unlike Sagna?....... Oh and don't bother replying I like to have a debate not be preached too!

[VoiceOfReason]

Christ sake man, Lee Dixon is afforded legendary status and rightly so, but what could that mother fucker do from the by line?

What a load of utter bollocks. Watch the tapes back and you'll see that Dixon crossed killer balls in for many, many goals. From Wright, to Smith, to Anelka, to Henry, and to all the others in between.

Sagna, on the other hand, may have been responsible for one, maybe two assists in his entire Arsenal career.

[augie]

I don't care if he's been our best defender for years and is "fed up", he has been shite second half of the season and looks like he can't be arsed.

You bastard well should.

The guy has probably seen his weekly wage matched by more than half of the under performing SOB's on the pitch. None more so than Walcott just up the flank ahead of him.

Where is the man management, where is the reward? 2 years ago Sagna was the best full back in the world. Bar none.

He should have been rewarded as such.

The extent to which some people are protected from criticism is alarming. Sagna may have been undervalued and better than his peers but his performances since Christmas have ranged from hapless to disinterested. Players have been crucified on here for far less.

I don't give a fuck who plays for us, nobody has the right to stop putting a shift in when they're wearing the red shirt regardless of how shit their team-mates are. Especially when he's been picking up his wage through two long injury spells in the past 18 months.

I'm a big fan of blaming Wenger for every slight thing that goes wrong in my life but Sagna going from top class to comedic calamity is a bit much to pin on him. The player has to be taking a long hard look at himself.

Protected from criticism? Put the crack pipe down brah. Criticism doesn't range from:

Sagna's a fucking idiot.
Never mind faith, I've got a P forty f***ing 5 for Sagna....c**t.
Sagna was horrible. Hope he knows why we didnt give him an extension because that was pitiful

To:
Sagna should never play for Arsenal again in my opinion

When you have been one of your failing clubs best performing players for a number of years, not months, you get a bit of leeway.

When you turn up one game in five and dial in the other four, you're gonna get criticised. So Bendtner, Vela, Walcott, Denilson, Vermaelen, Gibbs, Eboue and I could go on and on, you're gonna get called out.

Sagna ain't at his best right now, but his half best is more than we keep in reserve.

Trust me, Jenkinson is not the messiah.

I make you right buddy - sagna has been, up to this season, our best right full for the past 20 years and that ain't no exageration. There can be no defence or justification for the way he has been treated in the contract negotiations. If anybody suggests that the offer was derisory because of his injury concerns then let me point out the extensions offered to diaby, rosicky, Gibbs and rvp in recent seasons Basic business principles suggests that you reward those who have performed well (sagna) above those that haven't (djouru, almunia,) or those that never will (Wally and diaby) but of course wenger and his fcuked up socialist policies fcuked up again You cannot indicate a willingness to change that policy whilst rewarding a brainless greyhound with a 100k per week deal in case he actually becomes good enough but at the same time snub one of our most consistent players with a 1 year extension offer

That being said, sagna and his attitude haven't been good enough this season and that is unacceptable imo. Whether his demeanor is as a result of the contract snub, maybe it is borne from frustrations over a lack of forward planning for the club or maybe it is just a realisation that success in this team with these players is never gonna happen but as long as he is under the employment of our club then the least we should expect is 100% commitment. All that being said we have plenty of weaker players that should be a bigger source of ire than sagna

[VoiceOfReason]

sagna has been, up to this season, our best right full for the past 20 years

Sagna better than Dixon and/or Lauren? Madness!

[northbank123]

I don't care if he's been our best defender for years and is "fed up", he has been shite second half of the season and looks like he can't be arsed.

You bastard well should.

The guy has probably seen his weekly wage matched by more than half of the under performing SOB's on the pitch. None more so than Walcott just up the flank ahead of him.

Where is the man management, where is the reward? 2 years ago Sagna was the best full back in the world. Bar none.

He should have been rewarded as such.

The extent to which some people are protected from criticism is alarming. Sagna may have been undervalued and better than his peers but his performances since Christmas have ranged from hapless to disinterested. Players have been crucified on here for far less.

I don't give a fuck who plays for us, nobody has the right to stop putting a shift in when they're wearing the red shirt regardless of how shit their team-mates are. Especially when he's been picking up his wage through two long injury spells in the past 18 months.

I'm a big fan of blaming Wenger for every slight thing that goes wrong in my life but Sagna going from top class to comedic calamity is a bit much to pin on him. The player has to be taking a long hard look at himself.

Protected from criticism? Put the crack pipe down brah. Criticism doesn't range from:

Sagna's a fucking idiot.
Never mind faith, I've got a P forty f***ing 5 for Sagna....c**t.
Sagna was horrible. Hope he knows why we didnt give him an extension because that was pitiful

To:
Sagna should never play for Arsenal again in my opinion

When you have been one of your failing clubs best performing players for a number of years, not months, you get a bit of leeway.

When you turn up one game in five and dial in the other four, you're gonna get criticised. So Bendtner, Vela, Walcott, Denilson, Vermaelen, Gibbs, Eboue and I could go on and on, you're gonna get called out.

Sagna ain't at his best right now, but his half best is more than we keep in reserve.

Trust me, Jenkinson is not the messiah.

Firstly, I haven't put forward any of those arguments so the fact you're up in arms and trotting them out in response to me probably shows just how defensive you are. All I've done is put forward what I consider to be some balanced and reasonable criticism of the way he's performed and his motivation over the last few months.

Secondly, this isn't about any other players. Why are you producing a list of players - how does that make Sagna's performances or attitude any better? Unless anybody is saying he's the worst player we've had or otherwise comparing him to those they're not really relevant (particularly as 4 of the 7 haven't been at the club for two seasons).

Thirdly, the fact he's been a good player for us doesn't mean he shouldn't be criticised for months of poor performances and certainly doesn't mean his lack of effort, commitment and today discipline should be excused. It beggars belief that some people think fans shouldn't have the right to question these aspects of his game just because he's been one of our better players. Especially when the same people regularly question most other players' dedication and commitment.

[augie]

sagna has been, up to this season, our best right full for the past 20 years

Sagna better than Dixon and/or Lauren? Madness!

Best since viv Anderson imo although Anderson wasn't at the club long enough for proper comparison

[VoiceOfReason]

sagna has been, up to this season, our best right full for the past 20 years

Sagna better than Dixon and/or Lauren? Madness!

Best since viv Anderson imo although Anderson wasn't at the club long enough for proper comparison

Fair dues, we all have our own opinions. For me though, Dixon is a true legend. Won league titles in three different decades and cups galore. Was patchy in the first few years with some comedy own goals, but turned into a true great who had great longevity (14 years).

[Number 5]

No he is not...... but he will work his socks and put in a shift unlike Sagna who has been out of sorts for a good while now. In addition being a true Gooner Jenkinson will play with a bit of heart, where as Sagna doesn't seem to give a shit any more.

Mate, Vermaelen plays with heart.

And I don't want four of him in the back line either.

You agree then that he at least puts in a shift unlike Sagna?....... Oh and don't bother replying I like to have a debate not be preached too!

Hate to disappoint but you'll need to look back at you trying to take me to task.

That you were wrong, is your own damn fault.

[Number 5]

Christ sake man, Lee Dixon is afforded legendary status and rightly so, but what could that mother fucker do from the by line?

What a load of utter bollocks. Watch the tapes back and you'll see that Dixon crossed killer balls in for many, many goals. From Wright, to Smith, to Anelka, to Henry, and to all the others in between.

Sagna, on the other hand, may have been responsible for one, maybe two assists in his entire Arsenal career.

What you mean when getting the ball into the box early and often was the priority? When the shape of the team and the focus of the set up was to give him something to aim at?

You're hiliarious dude.

[Number 5]

I don't care if he's been our best defender for years and is "fed up", he has been shite second half of the season and looks like he can't be arsed.

You bastard well should.

The guy has probably seen his weekly wage matched by more than half of the under performing SOB's on the pitch. None more so than Walcott just up the flank ahead of him.

Where is the man management, where is the reward? 2 years ago Sagna was the best full back in the world. Bar none.

He should have been rewarded as such.

The extent to which some people are protected from criticism is alarming. Sagna may have been undervalued and better than his peers but his performances since Christmas have ranged from hapless to disinterested. Players have been crucified on here for far less.

I don't give a fuck who plays for us, nobody has the right to stop putting a shift in when they're wearing the red shirt regardless of how shit their team-mates are. Especially when he's been picking up his wage through two long injury spells in the past 18 months.

I'm a big fan of blaming Wenger for every slight thing that goes wrong in my life but Sagna going from top class to comedic calamity is a bit much to pin on him. The player has to be taking a long hard look at himself.

Protected from criticism? Put the crack pipe down brah. Criticism doesn't range from:

Sagna's a fucking idiot.
Never mind faith, I've got a P forty f***ing 5 for Sagna....c**t.
Sagna was horrible. Hope he knows why we didnt give him an extension because that was pitiful

To:
Sagna should never play for Arsenal again in my opinion

When you have been one of your failing clubs best performing players for a number of years, not months, you get a bit of leeway.

When you turn up one game in five and dial in the other four, you're gonna get criticised. So Bendtner, Vela, Walcott, Denilson, Vermaelen, Gibbs, Eboue and I could go on and on, you're gonna get called out.

Sagna ain't at his best right now, but his half best is more than we keep in reserve.

Trust me, Jenkinson is not the messiah.

Firstly, I haven't put forward any of those arguments so the fact you're up in arms and trotting them out in response to me probably shows just how defensive you are. All I've done is put forward what I consider to be some balanced and reasonable criticism of the way he's performed and his motivation over the last few months.

Secondly, this isn't about any other players. Why are you producing a list of players - how does that make Sagna's performances or attitude any better? Unless anybody is saying he's the worst player we've had or otherwise comparing him to those they're not really relevant (particularly as 4 of the 7 haven't been at the club for two seasons).

Thirdly, the fact he's been a good player for us doesn't mean he shouldn't be criticised for months of poor performances and certainly doesn't mean his lack of effort, commitment and today discipline should be excused. It beggars belief that some people think fans shouldn't have the right to question these aspects of his game just because he's been one of our better players. Especially when the same people regularly question most other players' dedication and commitment.

I'll answer 1 & 2 with a direct quote from your good self

Players have been crucified on here for far less.

3. I agree, he probably right now does deserves some critique, but not to the level going on today.

[Number 5]

I make you right buddy - sagna has been, up to this season, our best right full for the past 20 years and that ain't no exageration. There can be no defence or justification for the way he has been treated in the contract negotiations. If anybody suggests that the offer was derisory because of his injury concerns then let me point out the extensions offered to diaby, rosicky, Gibbs and rvp in recent seasons Basic business principles suggests that you reward those who have performed well (sagna) above those that haven't (djouru, almunia,) or those that never will (Wally and diaby) but of course wenger and his fcuked up socialist policies fcuked up again You cannot indicate a willingness to change that policy whilst rewarding a brainless greyhound with a 100k per week deal in case he actually becomes good enough but at the same time snub one of our most consistent players with a 1 year extension offer

That being said, sagna and his attitude haven't been good enough this season and that is unacceptable imo. Whether his demeanor is as a result of the contract snub, maybe it is borne from frustrations over a lack of forward planning for the club or maybe it is just a realisation that success in this team with these players is never gonna happen but as long as he is under the employment of our club then the least we should expect is 100% commitment. All that being said we have plenty of weaker players that should be a bigger source of ire than sagna

Sheet, and you did it all without swearing.

If anyone wants to know what I sound like without a toilet in my mouth, this is essentially it.

Mother fuckers.

Of course.