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topgoon wrote:So let me get this straight Moaninho with a £300million+ squad has basically done a Neil Lennon.
Won a league title in a 2 horse race and a couple of cups.
Klopp with his resources, if he wins the champs league will have proved himself to be a better and younger manager.
Klopp's team didn't park the bus they were well organised and none of the falling over and feigning injury that Moaninho's Porto team did.
Would prefer BvB to win the whole thing but not bothered which of the two teams win. Dortmund are an exciting tem to watch and bayern are just out of this World....yes I know they still have the 2nd leg but I wouldn't bet my home on Barcawhores overturning a 0-4 deficit.
You sure, they wasted over 3 minutes, from 88th when Real scored their second to past the 91st with a player (don't care who) rolling around when he hadn't been touched. No different, all foriegn teams do it, pity we can't lower ourselves to their level really
Have you forgotten the UEFA cup final in 2003 Moaninho's Porto against Martin O'Neill's Celtic. That was the one of the worst displays of cheating in a major final I've seen in a long time, in fact that I've ever seen and all done by Porto.
Dortmund don't even compare just a bit of regulation time wasting by them, serves Moaninho right. he got ut fought and out thought by a manager with a budget of £29 million for players.
Klopp in, Wenger out please.
Mate you said Real were cheats, I pointed out that Dort did the same tonight, now you bring in Porto.....Dort were outplayed tonight and should have gone out but for some terrible finishing from Real, I personally don't get all the love in for the German teams....just as bad as spanish and italians, if not worse
topgoon wrote:So let me get this straight Moaninho with a £300million+ squad has basically done a Neil Lennon.
Won a league title in a 2 horse race and a couple of cups.
Klopp with his resources, if he wins the champs league will have proved himself to be a better and younger manager.
Klopp's team didn't park the bus they were well organised and none of the falling over and feigning injury that Moaninho's Porto team did.
Would prefer BvB to win the whole thing but not bothered which of the two teams win. Dortmund are an exciting tem to watch and bayern are just out of this World....yes I know they still have the 2nd leg but I wouldn't bet my home on Barcawhores overturning a 0-4 deficit.
You sure, they wasted over 3 minutes, from 88th when Real scored their second to past the 91st with a player (don't care who) rolling around when he hadn't been touched. No different, all foriegn teams do it, pity we can't lower ourselves to their level really
Have you forgotten the UEFA cup final in 2003 Moaninho's Porto against Martin O'Neill's Celtic. That was the one of the worst displays of cheating in a major final I've seen in a long time, in fact that I've ever seen and all done by Porto.
Dortmund don't even compare just a bit of regulation time wasting by them, serves Moaninho right. he got out fought and out thought by a manager with a budget of £29 million for players.
Klopp in, Wenger out please.
Mate you said Real were cheats, I pointed out that Dort did the same tonight, now you bring in Porto.....Dort were outplayed tonight and should have gone out but for some terrible finishing from Real, I personally don't get all the love in for the German teams....just as bad as spanish and italians, if not worse
You might need to go back an re-read the bit of my post you first highlighted, I said Dortmund didn't go into the big time wasting, yes they did time waste but not the point I made initially was that Porto were a lot worse and Moaninho can't complain about time wasting.
Seriously re-read it and you'll se where you've gone wrong in your interpretation of what I wrote.
Anyway in 5 years we may be all sick of German domination but all the Barcawhore love-ins and Moaninho is god bollocks was getting on my tits, so to have his arse handed to him by Dortmund brings a smile to my face.
So now there is one German team in the final, I predict UEFA won't want an all German final and will want their global darlings, Barcelona, in the final.
So I predict an early dismissal of a Bayern player with maybe another early in the second half if Barca haven't already leveled it up.
bunch wrote:So now there is one German team in the final, I predict UEFA won't want an all German final and will want their global darlings, Barcelona, in the final.
So I predict an early dismissal of a Bayern player with maybe another early in the second half if Barca haven't already leveled it up.
Early red for most dangerous player and one or two penalties to add up to 4 goals. Let us see if they can do that to Bayern.
topgoon wrote:So let me get this straight Moaninho with a £300million+ squad has basically done a Neil Lennon.
Won a league title in a 2 horse race and a couple of cups.
Klopp with his resources, if he wins the champs league will have proved himself to be a better and younger manager.
Klopp's team didn't park the bus they were well organised and none of the falling over and feigning injury that Moaninho's Porto team did.
Would prefer BvB to win the whole thing but not bothered which of the two teams win. Dortmund are an exciting tem to watch and bayern are just out of this World....yes I know they still have the 2nd leg but I wouldn't bet my home on Barcawhores overturning a 0-4 deficit.
You sure, they wasted over 3 minutes, from 88th when Real scored their second to past the 91st with a player (don't care who) rolling around when he hadn't been touched. No different, all foriegn teams do it, pity we can't lower ourselves to their level really
Have you forgotten the UEFA cup final in 2003 Moaninho's Porto against Martin O'Neill's Celtic. That was the one of the worst displays of cheating in a major final I've seen in a long time, in fact that I've ever seen and all done by Porto.
Dortmund don't even compare just a bit of regulation time wasting by them, serves Moaninho right. he got out fought and out thought by a manager with a budget of £29 million for players.
Klopp in, Wenger out please.
Mate you said Real were cheats, I pointed out that Dort did the same tonight, now you bring in Porto.....Dort were outplayed tonight and should have gone out but for some terrible finishing from Real, I personally don't get all the love in for the German teams....just as bad as spanish and italians, if not worse
You might need to go back an re-read the bit of my post you first highlighted, I said Dortmund didn't go into the big time wasting, yes they did time waste but not the point I made initially was that Porto were a lot worse and Moaninho can't complain about time wasting.
Seriously re-read it and you'll se where you've gone wrong in your interpretation of what I wrote.
Anyway in 5 years we may be all sick of German domination but all the Barcawhore love-ins and Moaninho is god bollocks was getting on my tits, so to have his arse handed to him by Dortmund brings a smile to my face.
No, no, think I read it right, I wil trump your Porto with Bayern, Ribery and Robben are two of the best in the business at time wasting, I shall watch it tonight and if Barca start to claw their way back into it I will expect nothing but 9.5 rated dives followed by numerous rolls and Bayenr players prostrate on the turf after clipping a toe nail
I don't think it has anything to do with managers, it's a culteral thing foriegn leagues have been doing it since they started playing the game as they have with all the shirt pulling, grappling, rugby style hugging during corners and free kicks.
Jürgen Klopp said in the press conference: With this team you only get all inclusive
Madrid was better the first half, they should have scored..
BVB was better (except the crazy 10 minutes) in the second, should have scored at least one or two, Lewandowski and Gündogan...
Last 10 minutes from a football fan point of view just crazy...watched it with my 11 years young lady..both wearing the full BVB kit
bunch wrote:So now there is one German team in the final, I predict UEFA won't want an all German final and will want their global darlings, Barcelona, in the final.
So I predict an early dismissal of a Bayern player with maybe another early in the second half if Barca haven't already leveled it up.
To be fair I thought Webb did well in yesterday's game amongst quite a bit of cheating from both teams. Although the Spanish teams, Barca in particular, have profited from some dubious refereeing in the past the ref gave some big calls Bayern's way in the first leg, they were allowed to do whatever the fuck they wanted at the Allianz against us and lest we not forget that the linesman allowed Dortmund's winner against Malaga even though no fewer than 4 players were obviously offside.
bunch wrote:So now there is one German team in the final, I predict UEFA won't want an all German final and will want their global darlings, Barcelona, in the final.
So I predict an early dismissal of a Bayern player with maybe another early in the second half if Barca haven't already leveled it up.
To be fair I thought Webb did well in yesterday's game amongst quite a bit of cheating from both teams. Although the Spanish teams, Barca in particular, have profited from some dubious refereeing in the past the ref gave some big calls Bayern's way in the first leg, they were allowed to do whatever the fuck they wanted at the Allianz against us and lest we not forget that the linesman allowed Dortmund's winner against Malaga even though no fewer than 4 players were obviously offside.
I thought Webb did overall ok yesterday. He should have booked some of the fouls against Lewandowski, espacilly Ramones
I did not see cheating from BVB players, ok he should have given Hummels handball...
Malaga, well what can I say about the 3:2 but the 2:1 from Malaga was also offside...so not sure...
Overall, after two games I think BVB deserved to make it into the final...
bunch wrote:So now there is one German team in the final, I predict UEFA won't want an all German final and will want their global darlings, Barcelona, in the final.
So I predict an early dismissal of a Bayern player with maybe another early in the second half if Barca haven't already leveled it up.
To be fair I thought Webb did well in yesterday's game amongst quite a bit of cheating from both teams. Although the Spanish teams, Barca in particular, have profited from some dubious refereeing in the past the ref gave some big calls Bayern's way in the first leg, they were allowed to do whatever the fuck they wanted at the Allianz against us and lest we not forget that the linesman allowed Dortmund's winner against Malaga even though no fewer than 4 players were obviously offside.
I thought Webb did overall ok yesterday. He should have booked some of the fouls against Lewandowski, espacilly Ramones
I did not see cheating from BVB players, ok he should have given Hummels handball...
Malaga, well what can I say about the 3:2 but the 2:1 from Malaga was also offside...so not sure...
Overall, after two games I think BVB deserved to make it into the final...
I think the difference between the goals was there wasn't any sort of marginal element about Dortmund's - it would have been almost impossible for any qualified official not to spot at least 1 of the 4 being offside, lino just bottled it.
It is difficulty to really have sympathy with Madrid because if they'd been winning they would have been twice as bad. There was some pretty embarrassing play-acting and ridiculous time-wasting at the end although I guess to be fair Webb did add a lot of time on.
I'd agree that Dortmund just about deserved to edge through - even though Real missed a hatful of chances Dortmund could have killed the tie off a couple of times and Lopez made a few fantastic saves.
Also have to say that despite Mourinho's 'tactical nous' Madrid were clueless after the first 20 minutes tactically - they just kept clipping balls 40 yards straight onto the centre-halves' heads. Modric was the player who looked like he could really make the difference in possession and they didn't bother trying to get him on the ball at all. Ronaldo was poor by anyone's standards and dreadful by his, Ozil was incredibly wasteful in possession and Higuain was nowhere near sharp enough.
Jürgen Klopp said in the press conference: With this team you only get all inclusive
Madrid was better the first half, they should have scored..
BVB was better (except the crazy 10 minutes) in the second, should have scored at least one or two, Lewandowski and Gündogan...
Last 10 minutes from a football fan point of view just crazy...watched it with my 11 years young lady..both wearing the full BVB kit
bunch wrote:So now there is one German team in the final, I predict UEFA won't want an all German final and will want their global darlings, Barcelona, in the final.
So I predict an early dismissal of a Bayern player with maybe another early in the second half if Barca haven't already leveled it up.
^ Absolutely guaranteed.
A bit like where Webb got that extra minute on top of the 4 minutes injury time last night... UEFA are a disgrace.
Bloody delighted for dortmund last night - I dont really care who they play in the final as long as they win it but tbh I would rather see barca win it than have to look at robben and ribery parade around wembley with the trophy if bayern won it
augie wrote:Bloody delighted for dortmund last night - I dont really care who they play in the final as long as they win it but tbh I would rather see barca win it than have to look at robben and ribery parade around wembley with the trophy if bayern won it
But if Bayern win it, won't that technically make us Champions of Europe, as we beat them in Germany? #AKBLogic
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but the 2:1 from Malaga was also offside...so not sure...
UEFA are a disgrace. 
#AKBLogic