SUMMER TRANSFERS - Your thoughts on who did and did not sign

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rigsby
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Disagree Augie. Williams has been solid as for Swansea the past two seasons, brave and not flash. Just because he toiled for a while in lower leagues means nothing. People's percieved perception about lower leagues on here is quite staggering given some of the quality that has come out of there in recent years (Jagielka,Cahill,Lescott to name three)

I'm not saying he's fantastic, but as part of a 4 CB rotating policy he would do a very good job.

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LeftfootlegendGooner wrote:
mikeyb772001 wrote:I never make up false rumours but I just got told from a credible source that Higuain has already signed, that Williams has too for 8m

Ya never know when it comes to transfers though
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anybody fancy lescott???proven cb,he can defo do a job :roll:

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rigsby wrote:Disagree Augie. Williams has been solid as for Swansea the past two seasons, brave and not flash. Just because he toiled for a while in lower leagues means nothing. People's percieved perception about lower leagues on here is quite staggering given some of the quality that has come out of there in recent years (Jagielka,Cahill,Lescott to name three)

I'm not saying he's fantastic, but as part of a 4 CB rotating policy he would do a very good job.
The only thing that sets Ashley Williams apart from the plethora of average-to-poor centre-halves knocking round at PL clubs is that he is constantly seen diving in to last-ditch tackles and blocks as a result of being a complete carthorse who is also frequently caught well out of position. If he was actually a consistent, solid centre-back nobody would be talking about a move to Arsenal or Liverpool.

On another note Reina is a player who we've often been linked to but I've never seen as a feasible signing, not least because Liverpool would always have demanded a massive fee to let a key player go. With them signing Mignolet may not be a possible option? Know he's dropped off the last season or two but at 30 and with undoubted ability seems to me like exactly the type of keeper we'd want to sign.

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northbank123 wrote:
rigsby wrote:Disagree Augie. Williams has been solid as for Swansea the past two seasons, brave and not flash. Just because he toiled for a while in lower leagues means nothing. People's percieved perception about lower leagues on here is quite staggering given some of the quality that has come out of there in recent years (Jagielka,Cahill,Lescott to name three)

I'm not saying he's fantastic, but as part of a 4 CB rotating policy he would do a very good job.
The only thing that sets Ashley Williams apart from the plethora of average-to-poor centre-halves knocking round at PL clubs is that he is constantly seen diving in to last-ditch tackles and blocks as a result of being a complete carthorse who is also frequently caught well out of position. If he was actually a consistent, solid centre-back nobody would be talking about a move to Arsenal or Liverpool.

On another note Reina is a player who we've often been linked to but I've never seen as a feasible signing, not least because Liverpool would always have demanded a massive fee to let a key player go. With them signing Mignolet may not be a possible option? Know he's dropped off the last season or two but at 30 and with undoubted ability seems to me like exactly the type of keeper we'd want to sign.
It would kill schezney. In all seriousness though, whilst he has great distribution he comes off as error prone to me. Cesar would be a good short term signing. I think he may be willing to play as back up to schez (I doubt AW will ever give up on schez).

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spendsum4uckingmoney wrote:
northbank123 wrote:
rigsby wrote:Disagree Augie. Williams has been solid as for Swansea the past two seasons, brave and not flash. Just because he toiled for a while in lower leagues means nothing. People's percieved perception about lower leagues on here is quite staggering given some of the quality that has come out of there in recent years (Jagielka,Cahill,Lescott to name three)

I'm not saying he's fantastic, but as part of a 4 CB rotating policy he would do a very good job.
The only thing that sets Ashley Williams apart from the plethora of average-to-poor centre-halves knocking round at PL clubs is that he is constantly seen diving in to last-ditch tackles and blocks as a result of being a complete carthorse who is also frequently caught well out of position. If he was actually a consistent, solid centre-back nobody would be talking about a move to Arsenal or Liverpool.

On another note Reina is a player who we've often been linked to but I've never seen as a feasible signing, not least because Liverpool would always have demanded a massive fee to let a key player go. With them signing Mignolet may not be a possible option? Know he's dropped off the last season or two but at 30 and with undoubted ability seems to me like exactly the type of keeper we'd want to sign.
It would kill schezney. In all seriousness though, whilst he has great distribution he comes off as error prone to me. Cesar would be a good short term signing. I think he may be willing to play as back up to schez (I doubt AW will ever give up on schez).
If we could get his class pre-2012 form back he could be an absolute steal. Don't see Wenger going for it, rather just insulate Szczesny amongst woeful keepers. I've heard some decent things about Martinez but if his display at Reading was anything to go by then he'll fit right into the mould of goalkeeping 'competition'.

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rigsby wrote:Disagree Augie. Williams has been solid as for Swansea the past two seasons, brave and not flash. Just because he toiled for a while in lower leagues means nothing. People's percieved perception about lower leagues on here is quite staggering given some of the quality that has come out of there in recent years (Jagielka,Cahill,Lescott to name three)

I'm not saying he's fantastic, but as part of a 4 CB rotating policy he would do a very good job.


You are not making reasonable comparisons though - the point I was making is that nobody, with the exception of swansea and stockport was interested in or heard of williams prior to the last 2 seasons and that would make me suspicious of a player of his age. I dont dismiss lower leagues and actually believe that every young player should spend a season in the lower divisions to appreciate what being a pro entails, but no player of the required quality level should be toiling down there for as long as williams has

Btw can I say that I would sign lescott as a back up/rotation centre half ahead of williams

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We need a few young centre halfs. All ours are are 28+

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Let's talk potential lineups:

-------------------------Szczesny/J.Cesar---------------------------
Sagna-----------Mertesacker---------Koscielny-----------Gibbs
--------------------Arteta--------------Wilshere---------------------
------------------------------Cazorla----------------------------------
Walcott----------------------------------------------------Podolski
------------------------------Higuain---------------------------------


Good enough to challenge for the title or not?

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spendsum4uckingmoney wrote:We need a few young centre halfs. All ours are are 28+
Perhaps we do for the future, but I think CB's are the players that more than most (apart from GK's) require experience to be successful. It's also worth noticing that our defenders strengths are those which do not fade so much with age compared to those defenders that rely on speed to make up for a lack of good decision making and positioning.

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Trotsky's Daily Bugle (The Guardian) are reporting Gonzo's agreed personal terms and it's all but done. Dunno if any of you have seen him but he's scored 100-odd in 190-odd for Real Madrid. He is a top-drawer player.

What the fuck is he doing signing for us? Will Wenger play him at right back?

Can't wait for this to be announced :barscarf:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2013 ... eal-madrid

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officepest wrote:Trotsky's Daily Bugle (The Guardian) are reporting Gonzo's agreed personal terms and it's all but done. Dunno if any of you have seen him but he's scored 100-odd in 190-odd for Real Madrid. He is a top-drawer player.

What the fuck is he doing signing for us? Will Wenger play him at right back?

Can't wait for this to be announced :barscarf:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2013 ... eal-madrid
We remain an attractive club even for top players. Great history, CL football, located in London, world class facilities, state of the art stadium, a manager who still retains strong status within the industry, good wages, potential for growth, and the challenge to bring the club back to its glory days (sleeping giant syndrome).

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1989 wrote:
officepest wrote:Trotsky's Daily Bugle (The Guardian) are reporting Gonzo's agreed personal terms and it's all but done. Dunno if any of you have seen him but he's scored 100-odd in 190-odd for Real Madrid. He is a top-drawer player.

What the fuck is he doing signing for us? Will Wenger play him at right back?

Can't wait for this to be announced :barscarf:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2013 ... eal-madrid
We remain an attractive club even for top players. Great history, CL football, located in London, world class facilities, state of the art stadium, a manager who still retains strong status within the industry, good wages, potential for growth, and the challenge to bring the club back to its glory days (sleeping giant syndrome).
Agree with all your points above, hope the part you highlighted doesn't come across as disparaging to Arsenal, am just incredulous that we are (likely) signing a proper player as opposed to finding some kid in Tajikistan with 'great potential' for £96 quid instead.

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I see the Villa have signed Antonio Luna.....I bet their over the moon !

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The Gunners are also set for a £6m move for Dyanamo Zagreb defender Tin Jedvaj, 17. Wenger is unhappy with Swansea's £10m asking price for Ashley Williams, 28, and sees Croatian Jedvaj, who came close to joining Roma recently, as another option.
Quote from BBC Website. Here we go again. OK, Williams is no TA, but another promising 17 year old?

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