SUMMER TRANSFERS - Your thoughts on who did and did not sign

[the playing mantis]

I'd rather we sign Papiss Cisse http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/ ... z2YxqbHpoj than cannibal Suarez. Principals and class.

shame hes nt very good

[Swifty]

[quote="Dan_85The main outcry i've seen against us signing Suarez seems to have come from the foreign supporters clubs, who've only been following us under Wenger and have somehow acquired this image of us as football's moral guardians. .[/quote]

Yeah - its all the foreign supporters and their bandwagoning - foreigners didnt even have TV until 2000 and didnt know Arsenal existed and are way too soft and, unlike domestic supporters, don't like dirty cheating immoral grubs playing for their team even if they're really really good and even if the club isnt fair dinkum about chasing them. Everyone's the same and its just wrong.....stupid soft blow-in foreign supporters.

If we don't get Suarez and win the league it's all your fault - you know who you are - i can see you in that mirror!!

[Swifty]

I hate Suarez with a passion, don't want him at arsenal.

However if he then scored 30 goals and helped us win something (without biting maiming or abusing anyone) I could happily admit I was wrong.
It would be a fantastic story if he were to become a well respected player, however I just can't see it. We won't buy him and he will always be a utter c unt.

Is Bournemouth foreign now?

[Ryanswannell]

"Oi, Wenger! Sign some world class players yeah?! What's that, Rooney and Suarez? Oh no, we don't want those scamps thank you very much."

All this bitching over Suarez makes me laugh. Are there really people out there who would pass up on one of the best players in Europe because he doesn't meet our strict moral standards? And where has this image of "squeaky clean" AFC come from? The main outcry i've seen against us signing Suarez seems to have come from the foreign supporters clubs, who've only been following us under Wenger and have somehow acquired this image of us as football's moral guardians. Yet, in the past couple of decades we've had players banned for 9 games (unprecedented at the time) for breaking a guy's jaw, locked up for drink driving, snorting coke yet we all cheer(ed) for them and love them like heroes. Had social media/twitter been around in the early 90s would we all be villifying TA, Merse, Paul Davis etc?

I'm not in any way condoning racism or biting players, but are we seemingly more accepting of the crimes of the Arsenal players mentioned above? Where then is the line of acceptability drawn? Football whored itself out a long time ago, the "all good friends and jolly company" mentality of days past is long gone and taking the moral high ground is getting us nowhere other than a top four scrap with spurs. Time to play a bit dirtier.

Simply, I wanna see the best players at Arsenal and it seems ludicrous to skip over players because they have history. I'd like to think that we could offer someone like Suarez a clean slate, but ensure that he's told in no uncertain terms to cut the crap out. If in a few years time it becomes clear that he's still trouble and is having a bad effect on us, then fair enough, sell him on. However, i'm sure in that time he would have won us a fair amount of vital points.

Exactly how I feel.
The vast majority of 'world-class' players have some sort of 'baggage' when it comes to their behaviour e.g Rooney and his love of prostitutes, Suarez and his love of Ivanovic's arm and racism, Messi and tax evasion (if that was true), Ronaldo with his diving and bitching, same for Robben etc.
Why should we refuse to sign a quality player because of this. I'm sure if we signed anyone who was world-class but had a shady life off the pitch, we would't give a shit about that if they performed on the pitch and we started lifting trophies.

There are arsehole's everywhere, and often they are the ones who succeed.

[the playing mantis]

Well said Dan. The ridiculous attitude of some Arsenal fans is astounding. EVERYONE should be excited if we get Suarez.

agree 100%.

most fottballers are scummy bstards nasty pieces of work who would be doing time were they not 'saved by the game' (no i dont reas the mail...yet).

suarez is one of the best strikers in the world. arsenal have no class anyway, havent for some time.

who did suarez abuse, wasnt it that other delightful chap evra? one of the most vinditictive nasty players himself. im not justyfying it just saying i cant imagine it was all one way.

anyway it wont ever happen.

[northbank123]

There's "having baggage" and there's Suarez. We're not talking about genuine drug addiction, or about giving somebody a clout which although still a shocking incident was not so rare in the days before 30 cameras at every match. Beyond that, it's not as though Suarez has earned any leeway in an Arsenal shirt like Adams, Merson and Davis had - so a direct unqualified comparison between the two is exactly the same mistake Pennant made when he questioned why he wasn't supported unequivocally through his drink-driving incident like club captain and alcoholic Tony Adams.

Who gives a fuck about his deliberate handballs, the constant and embarrassing diving isn't really the point here - we're talking about stuff like repeatedly racially abusing an opponent and petulantly biting players (twice) because he didn't get his own way.

It's not just like we're talking about historic stuff either. Suarez doesn't really believe he should take any responsibility for what's happened, he insists it's the media that's to blame not him and he has shown absolutely no signs of willingness to curb his behaviour. Why would his behaviour be any different here?

I may take a slightly different view if it just a case of him being a bit of a prick on the side - but his behaviour interferes with his football given that he's spent long periods of the last two seasons suspended. I don't expect our players to be whiter than white, but Suarez is a complete and utter twat.

[green gooner]

"Oi, Wenger! Sign some world class players yeah?! What's that, Rooney and Suarez? Oh no, we don't want those scamps thank you very much."

All this bitching over Suarez makes me laugh. Are there really people out there who would pass up on one of the best players in Europe because he doesn't meet our strict moral standards? And where has this image of "squeaky clean" AFC come from? The main outcry i've seen against us signing Suarez seems to have come from the foreign supporters clubs, who've only been following us under Wenger and have somehow acquired this image of us as football's moral guardians. Yet, in the past couple of decades we've had players banned for 9 games (unprecedented at the time) for breaking a guy's jaw, locked up for drink driving, snorting coke yet we all cheer(ed) for them and love them like heroes. Had social media/twitter been around in the early 90s would we all be villifying TA, Merse, Paul Davis etc?

I'm not in any way condoning racism or biting players, but are we seemingly more accepting of the crimes of the Arsenal players mentioned above? Where then is the line of acceptability drawn? Football whored itself out a long time ago, the "all good friends and jolly company" mentality of days past is long gone and taking the moral high ground is getting us nowhere other than a top four scrap with spurs. Time to play a bit dirtier.

Simply, I wanna see the best players at Arsenal and it seems ludicrous to skip over players because they have history. I'd like to think that we could offer someone like Suarez a clean slate, but ensure that he's told in no uncertain terms to cut the crap out. If in a few years time it becomes clear that he's still trouble and is having a bad effect on us, then fair enough, sell him on. However, i'm sure in that time he would have won us a fair amount of vital points.

This is a super post and about somebody lent some sense to this argument. I have watched the totally unfunny so-called comedian Lenny Henry on such mainstream TV as 'Live at the Apollo' telling 'jokes' about how everything was shite until some black guy from Birmingham comes along and tells the white folks where they went wrong. Yet nobody ever claim she is a racist

[rodders999]

Also spending 35 million quid on a guy who's gonna be suspended for the first 6 games of next season would be a bit bonkers. Higuain please.

[defleppardisking]

There's no point keep talking about Suarez. Deep down inside most of us know that he won't come to arsenal and we all know why

[Deise Gooner]

Also spending 35 million quid on a guy who's gonna be suspended for the first 6 games of next season would be a bit bonkers. Higuain please.

Added to that the high chance of him being suspended for another 8-10 games for another incident he is likely to be involved in further down the line. For me you simply cant justify spending that kind of money on a player who has racially abused a fellow player and twice biten an opponent. You cant be sure that he wont flip his lid again and do something similar.

[augie]

It would be easy for someone like me to dismiss Suarez's as "baggage" but I am not black and would not be sensitive to how they feel. I certainly would question how our black players would feel about suarez playing alongside them every week if the guy is a genuine racist - I absolutely supported the ban he received cos he racially abused the guy and there can be no excuse for that (even though evra is an absolute c.unt ) but was it said in an attempt to wind evra up or is he really racist ?

[OneBardGooner]

"Manchester United have renewed their interest in signing Barcelona midfielder Cesc Fabregas, 26, having lost the battle to sign Barcelona's 22-year-old midfielder Thiago Alacantara. "

If thhis is true and manure do start sniffing round Cesc, you can bet a pound to a penny van judas will be playing his part in trying to get Cesc to go to the manure scum....the odd little snippet in the papers....

"Van Persie says Cesc would be an ideal player for man u et cetera....OR V.P tells Cesc to join united if he wants to win a Prem medal et cetera"

the thing is it would be true

[OneBardGooner]

If we still had Dein at Arsenal - he would be firing on all cylindars and doing deals to sign more than just one player at a time...by now we would have Higuan signed up along with a new goalie, CB and a holding mid-fielder....But who is doing the deals Gazidis, Law and Wenger....they couldn't organise a BBQ in Steve O's back garden....

[safcftm]

I don't think Arsenal should sign Suarez. Firstly, his image is shot to pieces, yes you can't expect to sign angels but on the other hand Suarez is a proven racist and an all round cheating, nasty piece of shit. Now personally I wouldn't be too concerned about all this if he won my team a trophy (aye, I know, pigs might fly!) but nowadays with the whole "brand building" thing being so important to clubs, signing a racist arm biting cheating twat would be a massive own goal. Arsenal will get a lot of money from supporters abroad, many of whom (just like many of their fans in Britain) won't be white and might reconsider their support for the club if they sign him. Having themselves associated with Suarez might do a lot of damage to the "image" of the club and if it affects the bottom line you can bet they'll not go ahead with it.

In addition to this there is the fact that he's already missing a good number of games next season and is always going to miss more. You could ask him to "cut it out" but I think winding people up and generally being a prick is a big part of his game, you could argue that he might a) not be able to cut it out and b) might not be as effective if he did. Do you really want to be spending £35m on a player who is already a "marked man" in the eyes of opponents and refs and who is likely to miss large portions of the season? For £35m you want a player who will, by and large, play every game and contribute, Higuain is the much more sensible option.

As an aside though, after his pathetic bullshit about the media in England (when trying to get away from Liverpool without upsetting the Scousers), I would laugh my tits off if he ended up at Arsenal

[OneBardGooner]

I don't think Arsenal should sign Suarez. Firstly, his image is shot to pieces, yes you can't expect to sign angels but on the other hand Suarez is a proven racist and an all round cheating, nasty piece of shit. Now personally I wouldn't be too concerned about all this if he won my team a trophy (aye, I know, pigs might fly!) but nowadays with the whole "brand building" thing being so important to clubs, signing a racist arm biting cheating twat would be a massive own goal. Arsenal will get a lot of money from supporters abroad, many of whom (just like many of their fans in Britain) won't be white and might reconsider their support for the club if they sign him. Having themselves associated with Suarez might do a lot of damage to the "image" of the club and if it affects the bottom line you can bet they'll not go ahead with it.

In addition to this there is the fact that he's already missing a good number of games next season and is always going to miss more. You could ask him to "cut it out" but I think winding people up and generally being a prick is a big part of his game, you could argue that he might a) not be able to cut it out and b) might not be as effective if he did. Do you really want to be spending £35m on a player who is already a "marked man" in the eyes of opponents and refs and who is likely to miss large portions of the season? For £35m you want a player who will, by and large, play every game and contribute, Higuain is the much more sensible option.

As an aside though, after his pathetic bullshit about the media in England (when trying to get away from Liverpool without upsetting the Scousers), I would laugh my tits off if he ended up at Arsenal

And there's me thinking you were a bloke!?