SUMMER TRANSFERS - Your thoughts on who did and did not sign

[swimmer1]

Be intresting what our sponsors think off Arsenal at the moment they are throwing in the money and we are doing fuck all with it showing even more lack of ambition if that is possible .

,good point,who wants to chuck millions at a club treading water year after year.also regarding suarez YES HE IS A SMOKESCREEN,IF LIVERPOOL ACCEPT THE OFFER WENKER WILL SHIT HIMSELF,ITS ALL TO KEEP THE SHEEP HAPPY,

There must be a time where the sponsors wonder where there investment is going must not look good The Emirates Stadium half fall and no big names to wear the shirt

Oh yeh nearly forgot and trophies

[OneBardGooner]

IF wenger was serious about signing Suarez his bid of £40mill+£1 (Which I found hugelt embarrassing as an Arsenal supporter - I mean how much lower can wenger go and how much more humiliation do we have to endure under the *word censored*!?)

IF he was serious with the £40Mill+£! bif he would have gone straight back at them - with another bid of £45 - £50 mill, not only would this have shown he DID mean business to both the victims AND Suarez, but also the football world at large - especially any other 'targets' he may have had in mind....Especially as we are in desparate need of a Goalie (at least till Shez learns to shut the f*ck up and keep goal) A Holding mid-fielder (Arteta has done an okay job, but his legs /he won't last the demands of a full season) AND a C.Back and perhaps a Right Back - Sagna - had a woeful season and if the rumours are true and Arsenal aren't going to offer him an extension on his contract - he won't be up for it again...

We (The Arsenal) could once upon a time - hold our heads high - as there was a "Class" about Arsenal - a way of doing things that reeked of "CLASS" - that no other clubs had - and their was a longevity in that "CLASS" But now we have become a laughing stock by the way the manager and board have conducted themselves in what is a most amature and inept fashion....I'm not a huge fan of Dein - BUT he did a superb job as the contracts negotiator and deal maker/breaker and was there to give wenger a nudge when he was going off beam......Also I don't think it is a coincidence that Arsenal have lost that sense of "CLASS" since Dein was sacked.

[OneBardGooner]

"Arsenal have tabled an £80 Miilion offer for Gareth Bale!!!...."


www.dreamon.football.com/premtransferslatest

[OneBardGooner]

A friend sent me this link - re: The Arsenal £40mill+£1 bid for Suarez.


http://www.talksport.co.uk/magazine/fea ... ion-202297

some funny one's in there amongst the dross

[g88ner]

IF wenger was serious about signing Suarez his bid of £40mill+£1 (Which I found hugelt embarrassing as an Arsenal supporter - I mean how much lower can wenger go and how much more humiliation do we have to endure under the *word censored*!?)

I still can't get my head round this embarrassment logic.

If you were told a laptop, car, house or footballer had a release clause, by which any some over that amount would trigger a sale, how much would you offer? and why?

Surely if you believe a contract states >£40m as a trigger, then £1 over that amount is sensible. If it wasn't, why have the clause?

This embarrassment is misplaced and you shouldn't be fooled into handing over more money than is necessary just to avoid embarrassment. It's business. Cold and clear. So put emotions to one side and deal with the facts of the contract.

The only embarrassment is surely Suarez' agent for seemingly failing to secure a proper release clause in the first place.

[augie]

So what is the real truth rigsby ? Do you think that signing suarez would be the start of a summer spending spree or do you think, like I do, that signing suarez would only rise to false hope as any other recruits arriving will be his usual bargain bin cheapo signings ?

If you sign Suarez than that's a brilliant bit of business and he's strengthened an area we needed addressing with a world class footballer, so I cannot knock him if he signs him. My point was in relation to Suarez, not other players. I was pointing out that all this nonsense talk of some sort of conspiracy bids, or smokescreens are verging on the ridiculous. Clubs hype stuff yes, but clubs do not bid 40 million quid as a way to try and make some sort of point.

For ages we've gone on about him spending big, well this time he's gone in for a top draw player for a huge amount. That's a fact. Is it enough? No. But that wasn't what i was talking about.

I know what you meant rigsby and I know that we all want wenger to make a few top quality signings but my question to you remains.......do you think that he is trying to sign suarez as an attempt to portray the club as ambitious or do you believe that the intention is to splash out and bring in at least 3 proven quality players ?

[OneBardGooner]

IF wenger was serious about signing Suarez his bid of £40mill+£1 (Which I found hugelt embarrassing as an Arsenal supporter - I mean how much lower can wenger go and how much more humiliation do we have to endure under the *word censored*!?)

I still can't get my head round this embarrassment logic.

If you were told a laptop, car, house or footballer had a release clause, by which any some over that amount would trigger a sale, how much would you offer? and why?

Surely if you believe a contract states >£40m as a trigger, then £1 over that amount is sensible. If it wasn't, why have the clause?

This embarrassment is misplaced and you shouldn't be fooled into handing over more money than is necessary just to avoid embarrassment. It's business. Cold and clear. So put emotions to one side and deal with the facts of the contract.

The only embarrassment is surely Suarez' agent for seemingly failing to secure a proper release clause in the first place.

If £40mill was/is the amount that allows the player to be spoken to (release clause or whatever) then £40mill would suffice, to add £1 is Pathetic AND shows a total lack of Class.

FACT.

[OneBardGooner]

As someone on twatter said:

"The widely reported 40m+1 bid shows again that we're more interested in publicising the "effort" rather than getting the player."

sounds about right for wenger & gazidis.

[in my heart]

I would gladly sacrifice Suarez for fellani, Williams,
& Cesar as these are the positions we desperately need

[kiwomya]

IF wenger was serious about signing Suarez his bid of £40mill+£1 (Which I found hugelt embarrassing as an Arsenal supporter - I mean how much lower can wenger go and how much more humiliation do we have to endure under the *word censored*!?)

I still can't get my head round this embarrassment logic.

If you were told a laptop, car, house or footballer had a release clause, by which any some over that amount would trigger a sale, how much would you offer? and why?

Surely if you believe a contract states >£40m as a trigger, then £1 over that amount is sensible. If it wasn't, why have the clause?

This embarrassment is misplaced and you shouldn't be fooled into handing over more money than is necessary just to avoid embarrassment. It's business. Cold and clear. So put emotions to one side and deal with the facts of the contract.

The only embarrassment is surely Suarez' agent for seemingly failing to secure a proper release clause in the first place.

If £40mill was/is the amount that allows the player to be spoken to (release clause or whatever) then £40mill would suffice, to add £1 is Pathetic AND shows a total lack of Class.

FACT.

The speed in which people on here bash the club is phenomenal.

[markyp]

IF wenger was serious about signing Suarez his bid of £40mill+£1 (Which I found hugelt embarrassing as an Arsenal supporter - I mean how much lower can wenger go and how much more humiliation do we have to endure under the *word censored*!?)

I still can't get my head round this embarrassment logic.

If you were told a laptop, car, house or footballer had a release clause, by which any some over that amount would trigger a sale, how much would you offer? and why?

Surely if you believe a contract states >£40m as a trigger, then £1 over that amount is sensible. If it wasn't, why have the clause?

This embarrassment is misplaced and you shouldn't be fooled into handing over more money than is necessary just to avoid embarrassment. It's business. Cold and clear. So put emotions to one side and deal with the facts of the contract.

The only embarrassment is surely Suarez' agent for seemingly failing to secure a proper release clause in the first place.

If £40mill was/is the amount that allows the player to be spoken to (release clause or whatever) then £40mill would suffice, to add £1 is Pathetic AND shows a total lack of Class.

FACT.

The speed in which people on here bash the club is phenomenal.

but the slow painful death of our club is agony

[donaldo]

IF wenger was serious about signing Suarez his bid of £40mill+£1 (Which I found hugelt embarrassing as an Arsenal supporter - I mean how much lower can wenger go and how much more humiliation do we have to endure under the *word censored*!?)

I still can't get my head round this embarrassment logic.

If you were told a laptop, car, house or footballer had a release clause, by which any some over that amount would trigger a sale, how much would you offer? and why?

Surely if you believe a contract states >£40m as a trigger, then £1 over that amount is sensible. If it wasn't, why have the clause?

This embarrassment is misplaced and you shouldn't be fooled into handing over more money than is necessary just to avoid embarrassment. It's business. Cold and clear. So put emotions to one side and deal with the facts of the contract.

The only embarrassment is surely Suarez' agent for seemingly failing to secure a proper release clause in the first place.

Suarez like Bale has 3 years left on his contract.So the selling club is under no pressure to sell.Rodgers has said they will start talking once a £50m bid is put in.So stop putting £40m +£1 bids in when we know Liverpool will turn it down and fucking put a £50m bid in.Its easy to bid for a player when you know it will be turned down.It shows balls to bid when you know they would except it.And we all known Wenger hasnt got the balls

[northbank123]

I don't see the problem with the £1 bit - aimed to ensure that we trigger a clause, what's the problem with that?

[g88ner]

IF wenger was serious about signing Suarez his bid of £40mill+£1 (Which I found hugelt embarrassing as an Arsenal supporter - I mean how much lower can wenger go and how much more humiliation do we have to endure under the *word censored*!?)

I still can't get my head round this embarrassment logic.

If you were told a laptop, car, house or footballer had a release clause, by which any some over that amount would trigger a sale, how much would you offer? and why?

Surely if you believe a contract states >£40m as a trigger, then £1 over that amount is sensible. If it wasn't, why have the clause?

This embarrassment is misplaced and you shouldn't be fooled into handing over more money than is necessary just to avoid embarrassment. It's business. Cold and clear. So put emotions to one side and deal with the facts of the contract.

The only embarrassment is surely Suarez' agent for seemingly failing to secure a proper release clause in the first place.

If £40mill was/is the amount that allows the player to be spoken to (release clause or whatever) then £40mill would suffice, to add £1 is Pathetic AND shows a total lack of Class.

FACT.

I still think people are getting wound up by a technicality in the contract. If the contract says a bid of OVER £40m, then bang on £40m won't activate it... £1 more will. That's not our fault; it'll be the wording of the contract drawn up between Liverpool and Suarez.

Surely, there's nothing wrong with trying to activate a release clause. it's done all the time. Offering to meet the trigger price (and not pay more) is sensible. Not pathetic.

In fact, didn't Ken Bates or another chairman famously pay £1 to buy a football club? - again, it's just a legal technicality that's not worth getting upset about.

[rigsby]

IF he was serious with the £40Mill+£! bif he would have gone straight back at them - with another bid of £45 - £50 mill, not only would this have shown he DID mean business to both the victims AND Suarez

Nobody goes 'straight back'. It's been under a week since the last bid, to bid any more you have to look at a number of different factors. United took a week and a half to rebid for Fabregas, that doesn't mean you don't want him. You're throwing around numbers which are MASSIVE. 50 mil is the British transfer record remember.

As someone on twatter said:

"The widely reported 40m+1 bid shows again that we're more interested in publicising the "effort" rather than getting the player."

Ridiculous. Arsenal did not, and have not, at any point made the bid public. Liverpool came out and shouted about it.

I know what you meant rigsby and I know that we all want wenger to make a few top quality signings but my question to you remains.......do you think that he is trying to sign suarez as an attempt to portray the club as ambitious or do you believe that the intention is to splash out and bring in at least 3 proven quality players ?

I believe Wenger wants Suarez. Two very high bids are unlike us and all reports seem to indicate another one is coming. Had it been some petty sign of ambition, would we not have just stopped at 30 million?

I have serious concerns with how we go about our business, and I totally agree we need 2 other quality players, or at least a player like Cesar which makes total sense. But on Suarez, I'm pretty sure if we go in at 45 and he hands in a transfer request, we will get him