THE WENGER THREAD

[goonersid]

I’ve said this before a few years ago and got laughed out of court, but I believe it’s even more pertinent now, but I think that Wenger is doing, (or not doing), all he is doing on purpose.

Let’s look at the evidence…

1.Keeping Almunia as number 1 for so many seasons when he was obviously not up to the job.

2.Playing players out of their positions, Arshavin, Ramsey even Eboue to name but a few.

3.Weird tactics and flabbergasting subsitutions.. (The Ox v Man U 2 years ago)

4.Bringing back old, over the hill players, Lehmann, Henry and Campbell.

5.Not buying the required players that would vastly improve the team.

6.Keeping the same old stale back room staff around for too many years.

7.Not keeping on coaching staff who improved us defensively… Keown?

8.A refusal to buy the required defensive midfield player.

9.Buying players from his homeland league, feeding more of our money into it also.

10.An over reliance on youth and placing them on long lucrative contracts some before they’ve even made the first team.

11.Why did he sign his last contract so quickly…(he couldn’t wait to sign it… no will he won’t he)

12.Selling our best players to our so called rivals…

13.Contracts, why did he buy Silvestre (31 at the time and put him on a 2 year contract.. or was it a 3) Pires???

14. The weird stuff he now comes out with, he used to come out with witty soundbites, but now they seem the rantings and ramblings of a mad man.

I can probably think of more examples but the question people will ask is why and why would he ruin his reputation?

I’ll tell you why, it’s payback for what the club done to his close friend David Dein, he’s never been the same since Dein left and with the kudos he has in the bank, he believes (and he has up to now) that he can get away with it.

He gets a good press and an easy from them (or did until fairly recently), he can easily get a job elsewhere. I also believe he wouldn’t give a shit if he got sacked either! He's a rich man, with a personal wealth of around £30 mil, shares galore in PSG!

Anyway, that's what I reckon! Call me paranoid if you want but it's the only explanation I can actually think of.

I love The Arsenal, I've been supporting them for over 40 years, but this 'man' is destroying our club, it's as though he's trying to rewind it back to 1996, and let's face it, if a new man came in now he'd have a much poorer squad to work with now than the one Wenger was luckily to get back then.

You left out the most important one Frank
He is a *word censored*!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[g88ner]

I’ve said this before a few years ago and got laughed out of court, but I believe it’s even more pertinent now, but I think that Wenger is doing, (or not doing), all he is doing on purpose....

I’ll tell you why, it’s payback for what the club done to his close friend David Dein, he’s never been the same since Dein left and with the kudos he has in the bank, he believes (and he has up to now) that he can get away with it....

Anyway, that's what I reckon! Call me paranoid if you want but it's the only explanation I can actually think of...

Just to confirm, you're genuinely saying you believe Wenger is doing what he's doing at Arsenal as payback for Dein??

And, just out of interest, are you suggesting he's sabotaging the club on purpose?

[Henry Norris 1913]

I've grown tired of these arguments with the AKB, can't we just install and IQ barrier when signing up to stop these from coming through?

[Gunner12]

I’ve said this before a few years ago and got laughed out of court, but I believe it’s even more pertinent now, but I think that Wenger is doing, (or not doing), all he is doing on purpose.

Let’s look at the evidence…

1.Keeping Almunia as number 1 for so many seasons when he was obviously not up to the job.

2.Playing players out of their positions, Arshavin, Ramsey even Eboue to name but a few.

3.Weird tactics and flabbergasting subsitutions.. (The Ox v Man U 2 years ago)

4.Bringing back old, over the hill players, Lehmann, Henry and Campbell.

5.Not buying the required players that would vastly improve the team.

6.Keeping the same old stale back room staff around for too many years.

7.Not keeping on coaching staff who improved us defensively… Keown?

8.A refusal to buy the required defensive midfield player.

9.Buying players from his homeland league, feeding more of our money into it also.

10.An over reliance on youth and placing them on long lucrative contracts some before they’ve even made the first team.

11.Why did he sign his last contract so quickly…(he couldn’t wait to sign it… no will he won’t he)

12.Selling our best players to our so called rivals…

13.Contracts, why did he buy Silvestre (31 at the time and put him on a 2 year contract.. or was it a 3) Pires???

14. The weird stuff he now comes out with, he used to come out with witty soundbites, but now they seem the rantings and ramblings of a mad man.

I can probably think of more examples but the question people will ask is why and why would he ruin his reputation?

I’ll tell you why, it’s payback for what the club done to his close friend David Dein, he’s never been the same since Dein left and with the kudos he has in the bank, he believes (and he has up to now) that he can get away with it.

He gets a good press and an easy from them (or did until fairly recently), he can easily get a job elsewhere. I also believe he wouldn’t give a shit if he got sacked either! He's a rich man, with a personal wealth of around £30 mil, shares galore in PSG!

Anyway, that's what I reckon! Call me paranoid if you want but it's the only explanation I can actually think of.

I love The Arsenal, I've been supporting them for over 40 years, but this 'man' is destroying our club, it's as though he's trying to rewind it back to 1996, and let's face it, if a new man came in now he'd have a much poorer squad to work with now than the one Wenger was luckily to get back then.

Some very interesting points you make and it is quite a compelling argument.

[franksav63]

I’ve said this before a few years ago and got laughed out of court, but I believe it’s even more pertinent now, but I think that Wenger is doing, (or not doing), all he is doing on purpose....

I’ll tell you why, it’s payback for what the club done to his close friend David Dein, he’s never been the same since Dein left and with the kudos he has in the bank, he believes (and he has up to now) that he can get away with it....

Anyway, that's what I reckon! Call me paranoid if you want but it's the only explanation I can actually think of...

Just to confirm, you're genuinely saying you believe Wenger is doing what he's doing at Arsenal as payback for Dein??

In the main, yes I do believe that, I know you're going to poo-poo it you did last time, but Wenger is still friends with close friends with Dein, goes on holidays together... I find it strange that he's still allowed to have a public relationship with Dein considering how Dein was chucked out of the club. Anyway, there must be some logical explanation as to why we've now got to this situation!

[1989]

I think you're overthinking it mate. Wenger just lost the plot, it happens to the best of them. Cloughie for example...

[g88ner]

In the main, yes I do believe that, I know you're going to poo-poo it you did last time, but Wenger is still friends with close friends with Dein, goes on holidays together... I find it strange that he's still allowed to have a public relationship with Dein considering how Dein was chucked out of the club. Anyway, there must be some logical explanation as to why we've now got to this situation!

I can't deny I find it a whacky, bonkers theory but if that's your reasoned and well thought out opinion, then so be it.

However, personally I think there is a logical explanation and it's not as sinister as yours by any means....

I just think the game has moved on, has become too financially driven, and it just doesn't really suit his skills set anymore. He's done okay to maintain us at a certain level (continually fending off Sp*rs and Liverpool for a CL place) but not good enough to push us on to compete with richer clubs. His recruitment ability has dropped off alarmingly as others have improved, and we're missing out on the best players hence the inability to kick on and compete at a higher level.

That's hardly a crime. He's just hit a glass ceiling, and we probably need a talented new manager with fresh ideas and contacts, to smash through it.

To say he's failing on purpose is quite a statement - and, the more I think about it, the more distasteful and sinister the accusation becomes.

[Red Gunner]

Firstly, a big hello all the way from South Africa!!!

...

Here is an interesting fact, since Arsenal last won a cup all the other managers of the premier league has been replaced. (Food for thought)

Here is another interesting fact: since Arsenal last won a trophy, eight different English clubs and Swansea have won silverware.

[goonergeoff]

Enough is enough the club has become a shambles and a laughing stock, radical change is needed the dinosaur board need to go and take Gazidas and Wenger with them. I have been going for over 50 years and have never felt so low, about the club, even during the mid 70's and early 80's. times cost and expectation were much different then.

[officepest]

Firstly, a big hello all the way from South Africa!!!

...

Here is an interesting fact, since Arsenal last won a cup all the other managers of the premier league has been replaced. (Food for thought)

Here is another interesting fact: since Arsenal last won a trophy, eight different English clubs and Swansea have won silverware.

And Wanger's trousered a vast personal fortune too.

[GranadaJoe]

I’ve said this before a few years ago and got laughed out of court, but I believe it’s even more pertinent now, but I think that Wenger is doing, (or not doing), all he is doing on purpose.

Let’s look at the evidence…

1.Keeping Almunia as number 1 for so many seasons when he was obviously not up to the job.

2.Playing players out of their positions, Arshavin, Ramsey even Eboue to name but a few.

3.Weird tactics and flabbergasting subsitutions.. (The Ox v Man U 2 years ago)

4.Bringing back old, over the hill players, Lehmann, Henry and Campbell.

5.Not buying the required players that would vastly improve the team.

6.Keeping the same old stale back room staff around for too many years.

7.Not keeping on coaching staff who improved us defensively… Keown?

8.A refusal to buy the required defensive midfield player.

9.Buying players from his homeland league, feeding more of our money into it also.

10.An over reliance on youth and placing them on long lucrative contracts some before they’ve even made the first team.

11.Why did he sign his last contract so quickly…(he couldn’t wait to sign it… no will he won’t he)

12.Selling our best players to our so called rivals…

13.Contracts, why did he buy Silvestre (31 at the time and put him on a 2 year contract.. or was it a 3) Pires???

14. The weird stuff he now comes out with, he used to come out with witty soundbites, but now they seem the rantings and ramblings of a mad man.

I can probably think of more examples but the question people will ask is why and why would he ruin his reputation?

I’ll tell you why, it’s payback for what the club done to his close friend David Dein, he’s never been the same since Dein left and with the kudos he has in the bank, he believes (and he has up to now) that he can get away with it.

He gets a good press and an easy from them (or did until fairly recently), he can easily get a job elsewhere. I also believe he wouldn’t give a shit if he got sacked either! He's a rich man, with a personal wealth of around £30 mil, shares galore in PSG!

Anyway, that's what I reckon! Call me paranoid if you want but it's the only explanation I can actually think of.

I love The Arsenal, I've been supporting them for over 40 years, but this 'man' is destroying our club, it's as though he's trying to rewind it back to 1996, and let's face it, if a new man came in now he'd have a much poorer squad to work with now than the one Wenger was luckily to get back then.

Some very interesting points you make and it is quite a compelling argument.

No it doesn't.
You could list the mistakes of any manager at any club (or any person in the world) but there is no causative link to their mind-set. Did King Kenny decide to deliberately fuck up the Victims? Did 'Arry want to bankrupt his clubs and see them relegated. No!! What is being described is incompetence, not malice.

[LeftfootlegendGooner]

I’ve said this before a few years ago and got laughed out of court, but I believe it’s even more pertinent now, but I think that Wenger is doing, (or not doing), all he is doing on purpose.

Let’s look at the evidence…

1.Keeping Almunia as number 1 for so many seasons when he was obviously not up to the job.

2.Playing players out of their positions, Arshavin, Ramsey even Eboue to name but a few.

3.Weird tactics and flabbergasting subsitutions.. (The Ox v Man U 2 years ago)

4.Bringing back old, over the hill players, Lehmann, Henry and Campbell.

5.Not buying the required players that would vastly improve the team.

6.Keeping the same old stale back room staff around for too many years.

7.Not keeping on coaching staff who improved us defensively… Keown?

8.A refusal to buy the required defensive midfield player.

9.Buying players from his homeland league, feeding more of our money into it also.

10.An over reliance on youth and placing them on long lucrative contracts some before they’ve even made the first team.

11.Why did he sign his last contract so quickly…(he couldn’t wait to sign it… no will he won’t he)

12.Selling our best players to our so called rivals…

13.Contracts, why did he buy Silvestre (31 at the time and put him on a 2 year contract.. or was it a 3) Pires???

14. The weird stuff he now comes out with, he used to come out with witty soundbites, but now they seem the rantings and ramblings of a mad man.

I can probably think of more examples but the question people will ask is why and why would he ruin his reputation?

I’ll tell you why, it’s payback for what the club done to his close friend David Dein, he’s never been the same since Dein left and with the kudos he has in the bank, he believes (and he has up to now) that he can get away with it.

He gets a good press and an easy from them (or did until fairly recently), he can easily get a job elsewhere. I also believe he wouldn’t give a shit if he got sacked either! He's a rich man, with a personal wealth of around £30 mil, shares galore in PSG!

Anyway, that's what I reckon! Call me paranoid if you want but it's the only explanation I can actually think of.

I love The Arsenal, I've been supporting them for over 40 years, but this 'man' is destroying our club, it's as though he's trying to rewind it back to 1996, and let's face it, if a new man came in now he'd have a much poorer squad to work with now than the one Wenger was luckily to get back then.

Is that you Mulder

[LeftfootlegendGooner]

I've grown tired of these arguments with the AKB, can't we just install and IQ barrier when signing up to stop these from coming through?

Don't think you would get in mate.....think about it

[highburyJD]

somebody posts they have "mixed emotions" but ultimately back Wenger - so they must be a WUM
and people 'suggest' (make joke posts) about how "AKB's" should somehow be prevented from posting

Frank posts the most out there full nuts conspiracy theory since Lord Shergar faked the moon landings with Elvis, JFK whilst the Loose Change crew made a reality musical docu-drama of it.

Wenger wants to fail? Because several years ago his mate was binned.
Why wouldn't he just say "he goes, I go" at the time?
Instead he waits about - initially does very well
but is secretly saving us his revenge with DA DA DAA lame transfer windows.
Really??!?!
crappyest conspiracy theory ever...

[franksav63]

somebody posts they have "mixed emotions" but ultimately back Wenger - so they must be a WUM
and people 'suggest' (make joke posts) about how "AKB's" should somehow be prevented from posting

Frank posts the most out there full nuts conspiracy theory since Lord Shergar faked the moon landings with Elvis, JFK whilst the Loose Change crew made a reality musical docu-drama of it.

Wenger wants to fail? Because several years ago his mate was binned.
Why wouldn't he just say "he goes, I go" at the time?
Instead he waits about - initially does very well
but is secretly saving us his revenge with DA DA DAA lame transfer windows.
Really??!?!
crappyest conspiracy theory ever...

How do you know it's the ''crappiest'' theory ever... do you actually know what goes on in the club.... ?? Why is it so outlandish when you actually go through every little thing he has done since 2006-to present... I didn't even mention the balls-up he's made continually on the captaincy.... Perhaps you should get your head out of the sand for once and stop constantly licking Wenger's ring in the style of John Cross...