THE WENGER THREAD

[g88ner]

somebody posts they have "mixed emotions" but ultimately back Wenger - so they must be a WUM
and people 'suggest' (make joke posts) about how "AKB's" should somehow be prevented from posting

Frank posts the most out there full nuts conspiracy theory since Lord Shergar faked the moon landings with Elvis, JFK whilst the Loose Change crew made a reality musical docu-drama of it.

Wenger wants to fail? Because several years ago his mate was binned.
Why wouldn't he just say "he goes, I go" at the time?
Instead he waits about - initially does very well
but is secretly saving us his revenge with DA DA DAA lame transfer windows.
Really??!?!
crappyest conspiracy theory ever...

How do you know it's the ''crappiest'' theory ever... do you actually know what goes on in the club.... ?? Why is it so outlandish when you actually go through every little thing he has done since 2006-to present... I didn't even mention the balls-up he's made continually on the captaincy.... Perhaps you should get your head out of the sand for once and stop constantly licking Wenger's ring in the style of John Cross...

Oh, come on frank - you must admit it sounds a little potty

Since Dein left, Wenger has probably had 1 or 2 contract extensions, and by all accounts turned down some of the world's biggest clubs.

What you're suggesting though, is that rather than walk away from the club when Dein was thrown out in 2007 (something that, at the time, would have horrified the board and sent the fans barmy!) he decided to sacrifice having a successful, happy career at Arsenal or elsewhere and instead stay and get his revenge in a whole new way.... by staying for a further 6 years but with an agenda of sabotaging the club he spent so much time and effort building up.

But, to avoid suspicion and maintain trust from the people he's allegedly trying to sabotage, he instead increases the profits of the club by maintaining Champions League football (despite being predicted to fail almost every recent season) and posting a transfer profit!

The result of this excellent sabotage has been to make the people who sacked Dein even richer, by allowing them to cash in on Wenger's success. And even now, with operation secret squirrel in full flow, the club gets richer and richer with each conservative transfer window.

And, all the time, Wenger's excellent sabotage plan focuses everyone's attention heavily on his incompetence, as he continually shields the board from blame.

What a martyr! and all for a friend?? - destroying his own reputation for Dein?? - why? - seriously, for that level of patient, self-sacrifice to make any sense whatsoever, Dein and Wenger would have to be a modern day Romeo and Juliet.

It's just not plausible.

[LeftfootlegendGooner]

somebody posts they have "mixed emotions" but ultimately back Wenger - so they must be a WUM
and people 'suggest' (make joke posts) about how "AKB's" should somehow be prevented from posting

Frank posts the most out there full nuts conspiracy theory since Lord Shergar faked the moon landings with Elvis, JFK whilst the Loose Change crew made a reality musical docu-drama of it.

Wenger wants to fail? Because several years ago his mate was binned.
Why wouldn't he just say "he goes, I go" at the time?
Instead he waits about - initially does very well
but is secretly saving us his revenge with DA DA DAA lame transfer windows.
Really??!?!
crappyest conspiracy theory ever...

How do you know it's the ''crappiest'' theory ever... do you actually know what goes on in the club.... ?? Why is it so outlandish when you actually go through every little thing he has done since 2006-to present... I didn't even mention the balls-up he's made continually on the captaincy.... Perhaps you should get your head out of the sand for once and stop constantly licking Wenger's ring in the style of John Cross...

Oh, come on frank - you must admit it sounds a little potty

Since Dein left, Wenger has probably had 1 or 2 contract extensions, and by all accounts turned down some of the world's biggest clubs.

What you're suggesting though, is that rather than walk away from the club when Dein was thrown out in 2007 (something that, at the time, would have horrified the board and sent the fans barmy!) he decided to sacrifice having a successful, happy career at Arsenal or elsewhere and instead stay and get his revenge in a whole new way.... by staying for a further 6 years but with an agenda of sabotaging the club he spent so much time and effort building up.

But, to avoid suspicion and maintain trust from the people he's trying to sabotage, he instead increases the profits of the club by maintaining Champions League football (despite being predicted to fail almost every recent season) and posting a transfer profit!

The result of this excellent sabotage has been to make the people who sacked Dein even richer, by allowing them to cash in on Wenger's success. And even now, with operation secret squirrel in full flow, the club gets richer and richer with each conservative transfer window.

And, all the time, Wenger's excellent sabotage plan is focussed heavily on his incompetence, as he continually shields the board from blame.

What a martyr! and all for a friend?? - destroying his own reputation for Dein?? - why? - seriously, for that level of patient, self-sacrifice to make any sense whatsoever, Dein and Wenger would have to be a modern day Romeo and Juliet.

It's just not plausible.

Excellent mate.

I on the other hand could believe that Wenger is not wanting to sabotage the board but is hell bent on sending all the Gooners stark raving looney tunes mad after daring to question his methods and having the audacity to boo him

Seems like it's working.....

[OneBardGooner]

I’ve said this before a few years ago and got laughed out of court, but I believe it’s even more pertinent now, but I think that Wenger is doing, (or not doing), all he is doing on purpose....

I’ll tell you why, it’s payback for what the club done to his close friend David Dein, he’s never been the same since Dein left and with the kudos he has in the bank, he believes (and he has up to now) that he can get away with it....

Anyway, that's what I reckon! Call me paranoid if you want but it's the only explanation I can actually think of...

Just to confirm, you're genuinely saying you believe Wenger is doing what he's doing at Arsenal as payback for Dein??

In the main, yes I do believe that, I know you're going to poo-poo it you did last time, but Wenger is still friends with close friends with Dein, goes on holidays together... I find it strange that he's still allowed to have a public relationship with Dein considering how Dein was chucked out of the club. Anyway, there must be some logical explanation as to why we've now got to this situation!

" Sorry Frank But I'm F*cked !! even I can figure this one out!"

[OneBardGooner]

ps: btw Monkey Boy!! You dumb fuck it's like this - you dumb *word censored* you keep doing it upside down!

[I Hate Hleb]

I've grown tired of these arguments with the AKB, can't we just install and IQ barrier when signing up to stop these from coming through?

Unfortunately if we installed a system that only permitted comments from those with a certain level of IQ, it wouldn't just be clue-less AKB's that would be disqualified from making posts!!

[OneBardGooner]

Very true Hlebby...You'd Never get Past The Sniffer Dogs!

[I Hate Hleb]

I’ve said this before a few years ago and got laughed out of court, but I believe it’s even more pertinent now, but I think that Wenger is doing, (or not doing), all he is doing on purpose.

Let’s look at the evidence…

1.Keeping Almunia as number 1 for so many seasons when he was obviously not up to the job.

2.Playing players out of their positions, Arshavin, Ramsey even Eboue to name but a few.

3.Weird tactics and flabbergasting subsitutions.. (The Ox v Man U 2 years ago)

4.Bringing back old, over the hill players, Lehmann, Henry and Campbell.

5.Not buying the required players that would vastly improve the team.

6.Keeping the same old stale back room staff around for too many years.

7.Not keeping on coaching staff who improved us defensively… Keown?

8.A refusal to buy the required defensive midfield player.

9.Buying players from his homeland league, feeding more of our money into it also.

10.An over reliance on youth and placing them on long lucrative contracts some before they’ve even made the first team.

11.Why did he sign his last contract so quickly…(he couldn’t wait to sign it… no will he won’t he)

12.Selling our best players to our so called rivals…

13.Contracts, why did he buy Silvestre (31 at the time and put him on a 2 year contract.. or was it a 3) Pires???

14. The weird stuff he now comes out with, he used to come out with witty soundbites, but now they seem the rantings and ramblings of a mad man.

I can probably think of more examples but the question people will ask is why and why would he ruin his reputation?

I’ll tell you why, it’s payback for what the club done to his close friend David Dein, he’s never been the same since Dein left and with the kudos he has in the bank, he believes (and he has up to now) that he can get away with it.

He gets a good press and an easy from them (or did until fairly recently), he can easily get a job elsewhere. I also believe he wouldn’t give a shit if he got sacked either! He's a rich man, with a personal wealth of around £30 mil, shares galore in PSG!

Anyway, that's what I reckon! Call me paranoid if you want but it's the only explanation I can actually think of.

I love The Arsenal, I've been supporting them for over 40 years, but this 'man' is destroying our club, it's as though he's trying to rewind it back to 1996, and let's face it, if a new man came in now he'd have a much poorer squad to work with now than the one Wenger was luckily to get back then.

Some very interesting points you make and it is quite a compelling argument.

No it doesn't.
You could list the mistakes of any manager at any club (or any person in the world) but there is no causative link to their mind-set. Did King Kenny decide to deliberately fuck up the Victims? Did 'Arry want to bankrupt his clubs and see them relegated. No!! What is being described is incompetence, not malice.

Agree with that.

[franksav63]

somebody posts they have "mixed emotions" but ultimately back Wenger - so they must be a WUM
and people 'suggest' (make joke posts) about how "AKB's" should somehow be prevented from posting

Frank posts the most out there full nuts conspiracy theory since Lord Shergar faked the moon landings with Elvis, JFK whilst the Loose Change crew made a reality musical docu-drama of it.

Wenger wants to fail? Because several years ago his mate was binned.
Why wouldn't he just say "he goes, I go" at the time?
Instead he waits about - initially does very well
but is secretly saving us his revenge with DA DA DAA lame transfer windows.
Really??!?!
crappyest conspiracy theory ever...

How do you know it's the ''crappiest'' theory ever... do you actually know what goes on in the club.... ?? Why is it so outlandish when you actually go through every little thing he has done since 2006-to present... I didn't even mention the balls-up he's made continually on the captaincy.... Perhaps you should get your head out of the sand for once and stop constantly licking Wenger's ring in the style of John Cross...

Oh, come on frank - you must admit it sounds a little potty

Since Dein left, Wenger has probably had 1 or 2 contract extensions, and by all accounts turned down some of the world's biggest clubs.

What you're suggesting though, is that rather than walk away from the club when Dein was thrown out in 2007 (something that, at the time, would have horrified the board and sent the fans barmy!) he decided to sacrifice having a successful, happy career at Arsenal or elsewhere and instead stay and get his revenge in a whole new way.... by staying for a further 6 years but with an agenda of sabotaging the club he spent so much time and effort building up.

But, to avoid suspicion and maintain trust from the people he's allegedly trying to sabotage, he instead increases the profits of the club by maintaining Champions League football (despite being predicted to fail almost every recent season) and posting a transfer profit!

The result of this excellent sabotage has been to make the people who sacked Dein even richer, by allowing them to cash in on Wenger's success. And even now, with operation secret squirrel in full flow, the club gets richer and richer with each conservative transfer window.

And, all the time, Wenger's excellent sabotage plan focuses everyone's attention heavily on his incompetence, as he continually shields the board from blame.

What a martyr! and all for a friend?? - destroying his own reputation for Dein?? - why? - seriously, for that level of patient, self-sacrifice to make any sense whatsoever, Dein and Wenger would have to be a modern day Romeo and Juliet.

It's just not plausible.

So, if it's not all his doing, on purpose, then he's done all this because he's a useless, incompenent bastard, I would have thought you would have prefered by theorum better...

[I Hate Hleb]

Very true Hlebby...You'd Never get Past The Sniffer Dogs!

Yeah, don't you just hate those people that are always on the ponce for Charlie!! That's why I stick with the good herb!!

[OneBardGooner]

Saw these on the Beebs website:

Newcastle will try to get as much as £20m for midfielder Yohan Cabaye, 27, after rejecting a "derisory" bid of around £12m from Arsenal, who have also made a bid for Juventus midfielder Paul Pogba, 20.
Full story: Daily Telegraph

The Gunners face competition to sign France international Cabaye as Paris St-Germain enter the race to sign the player with a £15m bid.
Full story: The Independent
Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger is interested in Manchester City defender Micah Richards, 25, as the Gunners look to solve their injury crisis - and has still not given up on Liverpool forward Luis Suarez, 26.
Full story: Daily Mirror
Arsenal are considering a £35m double bid for Swansea forward Michu, 27, and defender Ashley Williams, 28.
Full story: Evening Standard


THEN This!

Striker Olivier Giroud, 26, has made it clear that Arsenal's players are eager to see new signings, saying: "In my opinion, it's necessary for the club to recruit another striker."
Full story: Daily Mirror

So is he saying he's shyte therefore they need another striker or what!??

[franksav63]

There's a new job for Wenger... Manager of the England's women's football team... Hope Powell sacked!

Go for it ya *word censored*!!

[Steve_I]

testing: IQ barrier not working

[franksav63]

testing: IQ barrier not working

Soooooooooooooooooooo funny...

[Red Gunner]

Striker Olivier Giroud, 26, has made it clear that Arsenal's players are eager to see new signings, saying: "In my opinion, it's necessary for the club to recruit another striker."
Full story: Daily Mirror

So is he saying he's shyte therefore they need another striker or what!??

Nope. He's saying Sanogo is shit

[Almunia is a clown]

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/foot ... 75289.html

This one has some legs.

Shaun O'connor is the man who brought Wilshere to Arsenal ,the club fucked him off !

Shaun is Arsenal through and through and a former Herdsman .
There was a time honoured system in place that the scouts got money as a player progressed and if they made it into the first team the scout got some money per game .
Arsenal scrapped this system without warning and Shaun was screwed by the club over the boy and now works for Brentford as the chief scout .
As a consequence we have all but lost our London based scouts

Herd is 100% right as regards the clubs youth policy, Terry Murphy mentioned in that article was coach at Holloway School, AKA Charlie George & one of only 2 Islington schools who have won the English Schools Trophy. Every football mad kid in Islington during the '70's bugged their parents to go there.

The other Islington school who have repeated the same success a few years back is St Aloyious, but Arsenal aren't interested in the talent on their doorstep, and locally based promising players have been snapped up by West Ham, Orient & even The Chavs. The club prefers to recruit from other continents

My boy was offered a trial by The Chavs with a couple of other schoolfriends but told them where to go without informing me

Since Wenger has been at the club the youth policy has been a disaster, at one time Arsenal's youth academy was
up there with the best, always mentioned in football news alongside Burnley Man U & West Ham.

Wenger is like a poison octopus his tentacles reach into every corner of the club's being. He even turns up at club
catering contract negotiations, probably making sure profit comes before customer satisfaction.