Monkey Scum @ Real

[Rugby Gooner]

I think that he is going to crash and burn!
He is too insular to embrace a new country/culture,(he will be moaning how he misses his mates and some home-cooked Welsh meal within weeks),and if he thinks that Ronaldo will embrace him with open arms he is deluded.
I give him one season,(two tops),before he slinks back to the Premiership,(probably to Liverpool).

[Rosie_titters]

I think that he is going to crash and burn!
He is too insular to embrace a new country/culture,(he will be moaning how he misses his mates and some home-cooked Welsh meal within weeks),and if he thinks that Ronaldo will embrace him with open arms he is deluded.
I give him one season,(two tops),before he slinks back to the Premiership,(probably to Liverpool).

I agree, he doesn't warrant a £85m price tag either, more about £40m mark, He won't be the top dog there either.... Ronaldo is still the main man. I can not see him lasting long, only if they sell Ronaldo to PSG or Monaco.

If he comes back to PL, Chelsea or Man City will snap him up..

[clockender1]

its not that, its just that he's never played for a big club with high expectations.

Had he gone to United or even us, he would have been used to the pressure, the publicity, the big stadiums, the world wide press etc and that would have prepared him a little for the very targeted personal criticism he'll get in Spain if he goes missing during a game and/or they lose.

you have to remember, they have THREE daily football papers in that country. football shows on mutiple channels in most cities, every single night.

He would have been much better to go to PSG or Germany first where the spotlight is not quite so harsh, and don't get me wrong, Wally & Ox would fold too. Owen did, Hughes did. Rush did. McManaman did.

Wingers and strikers out there are expected to give 100% every single game and run their hearts out, otherwise the fans and the media expect them to get dropped the very next game. even in a winning team, the press are looking for a story to cover and an angle.

when he went there Ronaldo was already a world Superstar with United and Portugal. whereas Bale plays for Wales...

i see a loan back to Liverpool or Newcastle in his future. i'd like to be his agent mind

[Red Gunner]

My post from the transfer rumours thread

"I don't think Bale will do a Torres, the latter is just physiologically and physically not the same player as before but I don't think Bale will do a Ronaldo either. Why?

1) Teams defend deeper against the likes of Real Madrid than they do against Sp*rs.
2) Bale will not have a free role in Real Madrid.
3) Bale will be second to Ronaldo.

He'll most likely do a Cesc. He'll still be a very good player but he won't be as important to his new team as he was to his old team. At least Barca got Cesc on the cheap, Real Madrid are getting ripped off. No way is Bale worth £90m."

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[I Hate Hleb]

I think Bale will do alright - although logic dictates that he won't be as big an influence on the Madrid team as he was at spurs purely because they have more world class players that can 'pull their weight'. Hence he won't be the 'star man' of the team as often as he was when at our neighbours. Nevertheless, he does have sufficient talent to both survive and make an impact in La Liga.

[I still Exiled-Gooner]

Well,i think the will fail and give it a season or 2 he be back at shit ole lane less of player to boot.Real is in the public eye 24/7 and as already posted when ,not if, he has a mediorce game there be on his back which he hasn't experienced at the retards down seven sisters rd also he won't be number 1 anymore he have be in roknobnadlo shadow and play 2nd fiddle to him,no more free kicks round the box,penalties and always pass to the camp one so he can score.

He's gone to one of the most pressurised clubs in world football with his eyes clouded by his fantasy of playing for Real and like all over hyped british players will flop especially being so over priced as monkey head was.

[OneBardGooner]

He may not be worth such a hefty price tag..We all know NO player is worth that, not even in these crazy money is god times...unless of course it was for Denis Bergkamp.

I may regard him as a monkeyboy ex-scum player who deserves to have his arms & hands broken if he ever attempts to do that silly goal celebration thing showing the size of his missus gash again..., but I wish we had him in our team..all prejudices aside...he is a very good player, and if I had to bet I'd say he will do well at R.Madrid. One of the things that may prevent him from producing his top game is the gay-like bitchiness that may come his way (ooooh missus) from the likes of ronaldoladyboy and those who side with him. Also, as much as the club may value ladyboy I don't think they will allow tantrums & jealousy to sabotage the on pitch benefits of their expensive outlay.

[g88ner]

He would have been much better to go to PSG or Germany first where the spotlight is not quite so harsh, and don't get me wrong, Wally & Ox would fold too. Owen did, Hughes did. Rush did. McManaman did.

Surprised you mention McManaman.

I thought McManaman did pretty well in Madrid really. He was never a great player in England, but his game seemed to suit Real Madrid rather well, hence his reasonable success. The fans seemed to like him too.

As for Bale... I think his game is well suited to Spain. The only problem could be his relationship with Ronaldo, and whether Bale is able to play to his own strength's enough.

Not convinced by this Brit abroad theory either. Always thought that was overplayed. Brits set up home all over the world - possibly more than any nation, so not sure why we have this odd reputation. Bale seems a grounded lad (more so than many foreigners who come to play in England) so doubt he'll crash and burn from homesickness of whatever the OP is suggesting. Time will tell.

[topgoon]

I think he will do ok, not spectacularly but ok. His biggest problems is Levy f**ked him over by putting a huge price tag on him, Perez made it worse by actually paying it and chiefly he better learn to kiss Himbo Ronnie's a**e.

[TurnipMasher]

Just scored against Villareal. I know he's ex-scum etc but I'm actually pleased for the guy.

[clockender1]

He would have been much better to go to PSG or Germany first where the spotlight is not quite so harsh, and don't get me wrong, Wally & Ox would fold too. Owen did, Hughes did. Rush did. McManaman did.

Surprised you mention McManaman.

I thought McManaman did pretty well in Madrid really. He was never a great player in England, but his game seemed to suit Real Madrid rather well, hence his reasonable success. The fans seemed to like him too.

As for Bale... I think his game is well suited to Spain. The only problem could be his relationship with Ronaldo, and whether Bale is able to play to his own strength's enough.

Not convinced by this Brit abroad theory either. Always thought that was overplayed. Brits set up home all over the world - possibly more than any nation, so not sure why we have this odd reputation. Bale seems a grounded lad (more so than many foreigners who come to play in England) so doubt he'll crash and burn from homesickness of whatever the OP is suggesting. Time will tell.

real won without him in the side mostly.

i think the English travel more than most - i've lived in three countries and most of my mates now live abroad, Germany, Holland, Sheffield, Thailand etc.

my point was a lot of british players fail abroad - i think Brady, Gary Charles, Jimmy Greaves, keegan, Lineker and Beckham are the exceptions aren't they ?

i've always thought it was the difference in footballing culture more than the language, heat, food etc - in England you can go out with your mates and drink, smoke and fight no bother. in Europe they expect you to do none of those things.

Over there the players socialise at team dinners with their wives and drink water, otherwise you're expected to spend time at home with your family. young players are expected to bring their siblings and or parents to live with them.

the German lad i know who played in spain, for espanyol i think... told me that he was on his own and the club arranged regular 'dates' for him with german speaking Spanish chicks out to museums, art galleries, plays etc anything to keep him from hanging out in bars, getting pissed and banging sluts.

the idea of the young single players going out on the lash together as a group during the season was deeply discouraged by the club, the captain and the older players.

the focus is on club and family over there, over here its more about going out for a laugh with your mates.

[augie]

He would have been much better to go to PSG or Germany first where the spotlight is not quite so harsh, and don't get me wrong, Wally & Ox would fold too. Owen did, Hughes did. Rush did. McManaman did.

Surprised you mention McManaman.

I thought McManaman did pretty well in Madrid really. He was never a great player in England, but his game seemed to suit Real Madrid rather well, hence his reasonable success. The fans seemed to like him too.

As for Bale... I think his game is well suited to Spain. The only problem could be his relationship with Ronaldo, and whether Bale is able to play to his own strength's enough.

Not convinced by this Brit abroad theory either. Always thought that was overplayed. Brits set up home all over the world - possibly more than any nation, so not sure why we have this odd reputation. Bale seems a grounded lad (more so than many foreigners who come to play in England) so doubt he'll crash and burn from homesickness of whatever the OP is suggesting. Time will tell.

real won without him in the side mostly.

i think the English travel more than most - i've lived in three countries and most of my mates now live abroad, Germany, Holland, Sheffield, Thailand etc.

my point was a lot of british players fail abroad - i think Brady, Gary Charles, Jimmy Greaves, keegan, Lineker and Beckham are the exceptions aren't they ?

i've always thought it was the difference in footballing culture more than the language, heat, food etc - in England you can go out with your mates and drink, smoke and fight no bother. in Europe they expect you to do none of those things.

Over there the players socialise at team dinners with their wives and drink water, otherwise you're expected to spend time at home with your family. young players are expected to bring their siblings and or parents to live with them.

the German lad i know who played in spain, for espanyol i think... told me that he was on his own and the club arranged regular 'dates' for him with german speaking Spanish chicks out to museums, art galleries, plays etc anything to keep him from hanging out in bars, getting pissed and banging sluts.

the idea of the young single players going out on the lash together as a group during the season was deeply discouraged by the club, the captain and the older players.

the focus is on club and family over there, over here its more about going out for a laugh with your mates.

Liam Brady is british ?? Has anybody told him yet ?

I also presume that the Charles guy you refer to was meant to be john Charles ? Best I recall, gary Charles was a good but not great right back for forest in the early 90's

On a serious note though, I have to disagree with you re macmanaman and agree 100% with g88ner - the scouser was never better than ok in his time in England (in my opinion) but in Madrid his game improved hugely and was a very good player for Madrid in his time there. I watched Spanish footie a lot at that time and he was considered an important part of the team by his team-mates, his manager and the Madrid fans and he was only moved on because his image didn't suit the new galaticco policy

[g88ner]

real won without him in the side mostly.

i think the English travel more than most - i've lived in three countries and most of my mates now live abroad, Germany, Holland, Sheffield, Thailand etc.

my point was a lot of british players fail abroad - i think Brady, Gary Charles, Jimmy Greaves, keegan, Lineker and Beckham are the exceptions aren't they ?

i've always thought it was the difference in footballing culture more than the language, heat, food etc - in England you can go out with your mates and drink, smoke and fight no bother. in Europe they expect you to do none of those things.

McManaman was never a regular, but I wouldn't say he failed. He wasn't that special in England, so I wasn't expecting him to light up the Bernabeu either. But, I thought he did ok and fitted into their style very well. And, of course, won 2 Champions League finals; scoring in one of them.

I think Platt also did well in Italy, didn't he? (just before my time really)

But yes, there's not a great deal of Brits that have played abroad; successfully or otherwise. Mainly because the strength of the English league has kept many of our stars at home. But also our style of play has't attracted the big foreign clubs, I suppose.

Rooney, Lampard, Gerrard, Shearer, Cashley, Carrick, Scholes, Ferdinand, etc. would have been a success abroad though, I reckon. If you can play for top English clubs, winning CL trophies along the way, then why not? - as long as the make up of the team they join suits them, I see no reason to suggest they wouldn't cope.

I just don't agree with this idea that British players don't travel well. I think the sample size is too small, and our best possible exports choose to stay at home. Other countries have 100s of players playing abroad - most don't succeed, but we remember the success stories thus skewing the truth.

[1989]

Got off to good start, an equalizing goal in his debut.

I think he'll be a success and to be honest I don't mind him, he got us Özil after all.

Just so glad he doesn't play for them lot anymore.

[clockender1]

Yeah I meant John Charles. Gary Charles played for forest and wasn't he the player who gazza fouled to break his leg ?

Btw I don't hate bale either - I just think he won't make it. I don't think Rooney Ferdinand or lampard would have made it as all three are thick as shit.

Gerrard and scholes would have done well.

Platt joined us from sampdoria I think. His goal against Belgium at Italia 90 won that move to Italy from Villa. To Bari where the England team were based.

It's the quieter thoughtful players that seem to succeed - gobshite Robbie keane was a total failure whilst Tony Cascarino was a massive success in France. Waddle too I think.