augie wrote:No disgrace in this but cazorla isnt in ozil's league and for me you pick your best players in their best positions and fit everybody else around them - if you spend 40m+ on a player then you have to maximise what he brings to the tableI would also have concerns about how being played out of position would affect ozil's mindset - this is a guy who has been under-appreciated at club level for the past few seasons (always subbed at madrid no matter how he was playing and getting shafted for the ape boy) so for me we have to absolutely convince him that he is THE man at AFC.
Have to be honest here and admit that for me cazorla is now expendable - class player with all the attributes you would want in a player but he still isnt in ozil's class and playing the two of them centrally just would not work. I know that some will argue that he can play wide but that too would greatly weaken the influence he would have on a game so he would rarely be on top form. If ozil is committed to us then I would sell cazorla in january and use that money to be one of the very very few top quality strikers out there - if we were willing to pay 40m for suarez then I would add another 15m from sale of cazorla and buy an elite striker
Back on point, I know that it might be a bit early for predictions (dont know who will return inj after internationals) but I will say that I reckon 3-1 home victory is most likely scoreline
I would tend to agree. We've now finally got a collection of quality midfielders pretty much on a par with anything else in the PL so why throw that advantage away?1989 wrote:augie wrote:No disgrace in this but cazorla isnt in ozil's league and for me you pick your best players in their best positions and fit everybody else around them - if you spend 40m+ on a player then you have to maximise what he brings to the table
Have to be honest here and admit that for me cazorla is now expendable - class player with all the attributes you would want in a player but he still isnt in ozil's class and playing the two of them centrally just would not work. I know that some will argue that he can play wide but that too would greatly weaken the influence he would have on a game so he would rarely be on top form. If ozil is committed to us then I would sell cazorla in january and use that money to be one of the very very few top quality strikers out there - if we were willing to pay 40m for suarez then I would add another 15m from sale of cazorla and buy an elite striker
Back on point, I know that it might be a bit early for predictions (dont know who will return inj after internationals) but I will say that I reckon 3-1 home victory is most likely scoreline
Sell our best player last season? Fucking grand idea.
And then will you moan about a lack of world class players apart from Özil?
Cazorla is not expendable. He's world class! He and Özil will be tremendous together, linking up and interchanging positions. Them two will take the team to a whole new level but you want to sacrifice that for a striker? If I had the choice between Suarez and Cazorla, it's Cazorla every single time. Besides, what makes you think we have to sell Cazorla to buy a top striker?
Jesus Christ Augie!! Then what happens if Ozil was to get injured, if we need to raise money to buy a striker, then I would sell Wilshire whilst he is still rated.augie wrote:No disgrace in this but cazorla isnt in ozil's league and for me you pick your best players in their best positions and fit everybody else around them - if you spend 40m+ on a player then you have to maximise what he brings to the table
Have to be honest here and admit that for me cazorla is now expendable - class player with all the attributes you would want in a player but he still isnt in ozil's class and playing the two of them centrally just would not work. I know that some will argue that he can play wide but that too would greatly weaken the influence he would have on a game so he would rarely be on top form. If ozil is committed to us then I would sell cazorla in january and use that money to be one of the very very few top quality strikers out there - if we were willing to pay 40m for suarez then I would add another 15m from sale of cazorla and buy an elite striker
Back on point, I know that it might be a bit early for predictions (dont know who will return inj after internationals) but I will say that I reckon 3-1 home victory is most likely scoreline
goonersid wrote:Jesus Christ Augie!! Then what happens if Ozil was to get injured, if we need to raise money to buy a striker, then I would sell Wilshire whilst he is still ratted.augie wrote:No disgrace in this but cazorla isnt in ozil's league and for me you pick your best players in their best positions and fit everybody else around them - if you spend 40m+ on a player then you have to maximise what he brings to the table
Have to be honest here and admit that for me cazorla is now expendable - class player with all the attributes you would want in a player but he still isnt in ozil's class and playing the two of them centrally just would not work. I know that some will argue that he can play wide but that too would greatly weaken the influence he would have on a game so he would rarely be on top form. If ozil is committed to us then I would sell cazorla in january and use that money to be one of the very very few top quality strikers out there - if we were willing to pay 40m for suarez then I would add another 15m from sale of cazorla and buy an elite striker
Back on point, I know that it might be a bit early for predictions (dont know who will return inj after internationals) but I will say that I reckon 3-1 home victory is most likely scoreline
...don't tell me he's been caught pished on camera as well as smoking!? 
Augie would then probably complain about our lack of strength in depth and probably cite Wenger's decision to sell Cazorlagoonersid wrote: Jesus Christ Augie!! Then what happens if Ozil was to get injured, if we need to raise money to buy a striker, then I would sell Wilshire whilst he is still rated.
. "Tequila"LeftfootlegendGooner wrote:I'm upbeat.....7-0
) let me quantify my remarks re selling cazorla - for me it is impossible to play both in the same team unless you shaft one out to the wings and I dont see how that can work. For starters we would be bringing an extra body into the middle which can only cut down the space for our main creator (ozil for me) to work his magic but as well as that, it will almost totally remove our width making it easier for teams to nullify us and will leave our full backs exposed when the opposition attacks. Personally I think that rotating ozil and cazorla would be a disaster as both players need to get into a flow to be at their best and I cannot see either being content with warming the bench (no matter how much money they are earning flamoney 
). augie wrote:Seeing as I am being seriously rogered by others
(nothing new there then
I have never ever doubted cazorla's class and I remain a big fan but am totally opposed to putting square pegs in round holes (playing players out of position). As well as that, I do not see the point in having 2 world class players for one position whilst having ordinary/average players in other positions (strengthen the team before you strengthen the squad). I can understand some disagreeing with me but am surprised that all seem to think that there are no merits to my suggestion
That fecking dwarfbuttplug DB10 gets feckin' everywhere 
Augie, you say Cazorla is now expendable and you're suggesting we sell Cazorla in January so NO I don't see merit in that suggestion because I couldn't disagree more (sorryaugie wrote:Seeing as I am being seriously rounded on by others (nothing new there then
I have never ever doubted cazorla's class and I remain a big fan but am totally opposed to putting square pegs in round holes (playing players out of position). As well as that, I do not see the point in having 2 world class players for one position whilst having ordinary/average players in other positions (strengthen the team before you strengthen the squad). I can understand some disagreeing with me but am surprised that all seem to think that there are no merits to my suggestion
). If you were talking about selling him in the long term, once we have better options out wide and he's struggling to get a game, then it would have more merit but this January? not for me.
