Tactical analysis of Arsenal (by a LFC fan)

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Hi, I do a tactical analysis of Liverpool's opponents before every game with lots of screen shots and other infographics etc to liven the piece. Given that you know your team better than I would, can you help give some critical feedback on this piece especially where I think Arsenal's strengths & weaknesses are ?

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Counter-attacking Arsenal

In recent seasons, Arsenal was a team that played football that was pleasing on the eye. However, at times they were criticized for trying to score the perfect goal as they would take too much out of the ball which meant they lacked penetration. They would look to wear teams down and push & probe in their attacks . However, recently they have become a team more willing to embrace the counter-attack. They have moved away from playing football in a congested midfield with slow sideways passing and are now attacking with real pace & purpose. A number of Arsenal's goals this season have come from moving swiftly up the pitch after winning back possession. Below are a few examples of Arsenal breaking swiftly when the opportunity arises. Its a tactic which is serving Arsenal well so far as they have the players that can run with the ball, pick a pass and have the touch and awareness to play in their colleagues.

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Arsenal's almost perfect goal against Norwich is shown below. Firstly, they get numbers behind the ball with Giroud and Ozil coming back and force Norwich into making a stray pass by overloading their own defensive third to squeeze the space. They then break up the pitch by continuously passing the ball forward, the only square pass was when Carzola squared to Wilshire outside the box just before he engaged in the double one-two with Giroud. In the space of 18 seconds, Arsenal managed to choke the space for Norwich and then get 7 players up the pitch to give options to the man on the ball including having both full backs out wide to provide width.

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Other goals that Arsenal have scored by dispossessing the opposition and immediately playing forward passes with runners supporting the man in possession;

- Fulham. Ball won back in the left back area and clipped up to Giroud who takes it down and lays it off for Walcott who passes to Carzola who then pulls it back for Podolski to smash in.

- Palace. Under pressure, Arsenal clear the ball to Giroud who is just inside Palace's half. With Palace pushing for an equaliser his 1st instinct is not to control the ball to relieve pressure but to pass it down the line for Ramsey who is running off him. Ramsey clips the ball into Giroud to head home to make it 2-0.

- West Brom. Mulumbu gets dispossessed about 25 yards from Arsenal's goal. From there, the Gunners pass the ball forward always trying to get behind WBA before they re-group. With men getting behind the ball, Wilshire equalises with a deflected shot. This is not the greatest example but it still rewarded the team with a piece of luck.

- Norwich. Both Wilshire and Ozil's goals came from direct running and passing up the pitch.

Out of Arsenal's 20 league goals, I would class 9 of them as goals scored by moving the ball with continuous vertical passes up the pitch from defence and scoring a goal inside 15-20secs, though with most of them as quickly as 7 to 13 secs. This style is reminiscent of Wenger's best teams of countering in waves with Patrick Viera saying that he would always break forward when Bergkamp was given the ball on the counter-attack because he would always pick the right pass with Bergkamp recently saying of Ozil that "Behind every pass there must be a thought.....you see that with his control and his movement and that’s what I like".

Full backs

With the injuries to Walcott, Oxlade-Chamberlain and Podolski, Arsenal have been filling the 5 midfield slots with players that are more comfortable playing in the central areas rather than out wide. As such, with the likes of Ozil, Carzola, Ramsey, Wilshire and Rosicky getting games behind Giroud. The graphic below shows that Arsenal play more football in central areas than most teams though 32% on the face of it is not a huge number what is more telling is that alot of their play seems skewed to the right.

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With no proper outlet in wide areas, this is placing a huge burden on the shoulders of Gibbs and Sagna to get through a great deal of work during games as they are the players that have to provide the width. Recently this was acknowledged by Carzola who said "I believe that full backs have a pivotal role in our team, Jack Wilshire, Tomas Rosicky or myself are not sticking strictly to the touchline. Therefore we open up spaces so our full backs have a corridor where they can go up and down. Our ball possessions are long but they can break through by surprise. That’s why full backs are really important for our team. You can see that every game". Below are a few examples of just how high up the pitch Gibbs and Sagna are willing to go which helps to overload the opposition with numbers in the final third. However, as shown later on, its also an opportunity for the opposition. Also, its no surprise that both full-backs were rested against Chelsea in the League Cup given the work they are required to get through.

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I believe that the best opportunity to find some space will be behind the full backs when we win back possession and I believe it was part of our tactic when we went to The Emirates last season. Here is a look at where our longer passes were aimed and the heat map of both Sagna & Suarez. This was one game in which Suarez's roaming tendencies were curtailed and he remained on our left. Its hard to think that Rodgers did this for defensive reasons but rather he put our best player in a position where he was likely to find the most space when Sagna went forward .

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Here is an example from that game last season. The run by Suarez and the ball played by Henderson without looking would suggest that there was specific plan of attack at the break downs and that the aim was to exploit the space behind Sagna when he got forward.

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what the fuck are tactics :lol:

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wow. very cool. interesting analysis - you are correct about Gibbs and Sagna. past Arsenal teams expected the backs to play as wing backs, run and pass and run. not any more, the system is to pass into the middle then build out from there.

the rapid counter attacking has been in fits and starts and only really worked twice this season - Norwich and Napoli.

that said, our main weakness will be on the bench between Steve Bould and the kit man.

you can bet that you have done more work on us than Arsene Wenger will have done on your lot - Wenger doesn't believe in altering your play to combat the oppositions strengths at the expense of your own strengths.

that thinking worked from 98 to 2002 when either Overmars or Henry had to be double marked and Bergkamp could pass into anywhere, but since 2005 not so much. or not at all.

Rodgers will win this tactical battle, even if Liverpool don't win.

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clockender1 wrote:wow. very cool. interesting analysis - you are correct about Gibbs and Sagna. past Arsenal teams expected the backs to play as wing backs, run and pass and run. not any more, the system is to pass into the middle then build out from there.

the rapid counter attacking has been in fits and starts and only really worked twice this season - Norwich and Napoli.

that said, our main weakness will be on the bench between Steve Bould and the kit man.

you can bet that you have done more work on us than Arsene Wenger will have done on your lot - Wenger doesn't believe in altering your play to combat the oppositions strengths at the expense of your own strengths.

that thinking worked from 98 to 2002 when either Overmars or Henry had to be double marked and Bergkamp could pass into anywhere, but since 2005 not so much. or not at all.

Rodgers will win this tactical battle, even if Liverpool don't win.
Everyone seems to think that of their own manager, I had the same from the Palace and Newcastle fans when I posted my match previews of them. Interestingly, the Head of Opposition Analysis at LFC recently gave an interview - said that Rodgers listens to what he has to say but that Rodgers is very focused on his own team and how Liverpool play - so it may just be something inherent in top flight managers to focus on their own team.

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Certainly dedicated to do all that work!

Your analysis is very good but I would like to point out my opinions of some features of our play.

1.) Your focus on our forward passing is true only to an extent.
It has reaped good benefits for us, but can only work when the players are fresh and sharp physically.

When they are a bit jaded, we revert "to type", playing a second rate tiki-taka of sideways and backwards passing which almost always results in possession minus cutting edge that leads to goals.

2.) Ramsey is our key man this season, his work rate and forward movement can "impose" his will on a game similar to how Parlour used to.

3.) Giroud has split opinion.
I see him playing similar to how Drogba played in his first season at Chelsea, quite isolated in space but acting as a pivot for others to work around, holding up the ball then releasing a short pass for midfield runners to shoot with.

Other fans think he is slow, unable to "get into a game" and not sharp enough.

4.) Another thing to look out for is Flamini's absence.
He and Arteta can both tackle as defensive midfielders, but Flamini is dynamic and contributes more to our successful fast forward breaks through the middle, whereas Arteta is more laid back and focusses on short accurate passes that some accuse of "Slowing down the game".

5.) Sagna has also been caught out too high up the pitch more than previous seasons, someone like Sterling could give him a tough time.

I think 2-2 will be the result, Ramsey and Ozil to work well but Suarez to grab a brace.

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mcdowell42 wrote:what the fuck are tactics :lol:
please show this piece to our great leader ffs!!

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RoryFitz9 wrote:
clockender1 wrote: the Head of Opposition Analysis at LFC .
Rory we don't have one of those departments at all. We have one Football Analyst who looks at OUR team stats.

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QuartzGooner wrote:Certainly dedicated to do all that work!

Your analysis is very good but I would like to point out my opinions of some features of our play.

1.) Your focus on our forward passing is true only to an extent.
It has reaped good benefits for us, but can only work when the players are fresh and sharp physically.

When they are a bit jaded, we revert "to type", playing a second rate tiki-taka of sideways and backwards passing which almost always results in possession minus cutting edge that leads to goals.

2.) Ramsey is our key man this season, his work rate and forward movement can "impose" his will on a game similar to how Parlour used to.

3.) Giroud has split opinion.
I see him playing similar to how Drogba played in his first season at Chelsea, quite isolated in space but acting as a pivot for others to work around, holding up the ball then releasing a short pass for midfield runners to shoot with.

Other fans think he is slow, unable to "get into a game" and not sharp enough.

4.) Another thing to look out for is Flamini's absence.
He and Arteta can both tackle as defensive midfielders, but Flamini is dynamic and contributes more to our successful fast forward breaks through the middle, whereas Arteta is more laid back and focusses on short accurate passes that some accuse of "Slowing down the game".

5.) Sagna has also been caught out too high up the pitch more than previous seasons, someone like Sterling could give him a tough time.

I think 2-2 will be the result, Ramsey and Ozil to work well but Suarez to grab a brace.
Thanks for taking the time to write that response quartzgooner, that's the kind of feedback that I am after.

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:rubchin: :rubchin: :rubchin: :rubchin:

You forgot to include the very important stat that relates to "Tippy Tappy".

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ps: Could you PLEASE apply for a job at Arsenal amd explain to our mighty leader that you specialise in something called Tactics. he will not have heard the term before and may think you are referring to mouth fresheners, but PLEASE DON'T be put off.

Arsenal needs your expertise and attention to detail. :barscarf:

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Long, wordy posts like this should really be broken up with pictures of scantily clad women.

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Your analysis of our fullbacks is sound, but analysis of what has happened shouldn't be assumed to demonstrate intention. We may have scored some good goals on the break, but I've not spotted any plan (let alone tactics) behind it. There's no way we're leading teams on to then hit them on the break.
In general I think teams try to sit back and hit us on the break. It's generally when they've gone behind and are pushing forward in search of an equalizer, leaving space behind them that we are able to attack with a bit of pace.

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yeah Joes right - its the first goal that's vital under this manager. if we get the first and the opposition pushes forward we'll often get a second - if our momentum isn't killed by letting one in from a set piece (which we don't practice :banghead: ) or the long ball over the top.

its teams that stick to their game plan, defend deep in two banks of four with a big strong striker up front, or fill the middle of the park continue to try to hit us on the break, that we really struggle against.

hence the losses last year against norwich, bradford, blackburn and schalke, and this year against Dortmund & chelsea.

We have no plan B and never have had - we always relied on the pure genuis of Bergkamp and the skill and pace of Henry to bail us out.

we play our game and winning, losing or drawing, we stick to it and make the pre-game planned subs on 70 minutes.

I pity our players.

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Certainly makes interesting reading, fair play for the effort you've gone to.

Ultimately our game is reliant on moving the ball at pace (more so than most teams) and it puts a phenomenal amount of pressure on the striker. To play up front in our 4-5-1 you really need pace to be able to get in behind, a superb touch to be able to hold up the ball and link up with midfielders, strength for the same reason, clinical finishing and most importantly fantastic movement, or we just end up passing the ball around midfield for the whole game with no end product. The whole package. Despite a bit more consistency and the additions of Ozil and a quality Ramsey if it wasn't for the considerable strides made by Giroud this season we wouldn't have gone anywhere.

On another note our full backs are still too reckless and I was sick of the sight last season of our most clinical finisher in Podolski being asked to cover at wing back almost so that Gibbs could repeatedly bomb forward and fluff crosses to the first defender.

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Dan_85 wrote:Long, wordy posts like this should really be broken up with pictures of scantily clad women.
tbh dan even that post was too much for me :oops: :lol:

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