Is it just that they are scared of away fans?

[DB10GOONER]

The Stadium Management team like nothing better than an easy life for every match, and it is very difficult to get anything outside of the ordinary organised.

It took four seasons to have them give the OK for the giant 'crowd surfer' flag now seen pre match in the North Bank, but even now it cannot move 'round the corner' to the East Stand, as that would 'create too many problems'.

Was that giant flag a Red Action inovation?

[OneBardGooner]

The Stadium Management team like nothing better than an easy life for every match, and it is very difficult to get anything outside of the ordinary organised.

It took four seasons to have them give the OK for the giant 'crowd surfer' flag now seen pre match in the North Bank, but even now it cannot move 'round the corner' to the East Stand, as that would 'create too many problems'.

Was that giant flag a Red Action inovation?

Oh! No flags were about long before Red Action mate...

""The earliest flag like objects were essentially symbols (called "vexilloids"), three-dimensional symbols on a staff, made from from metal, wood or stone (also feathers, plant material etc), not from cloth. They came in a wide variety, different from culture to culture. In most cases we only have depictions of the vexilloid, without knowledge of the material. Ancient textile flags ("flags proper") are very rarely preserved, so we have not much knowledge on the material. We know, that silk played an important role in China; in Europe and adjacent areas, wool and linen were more important. The oldest preserved textile flag of an European origin is a Roman "vexillum" cloth found in Egypt (3rd century AD ??); this was made from crude linen.

Animal figures played a prominent role, though. We know different animals as parts of standards from Egypt; the Romans used an eagle standard (earlier on some other animals as well). If we assume (as Smith does), that textile flags have their origin in China, we don't know much about the actual design of these Chinese flags. If we assume that textile flags were "invented" simultaneously on several places, it is even more difficult.

The early flag-like symbols we know of were already pretty elaborate. However, due to our lack of knowledge, we can assume, that either we just know the flags/vexilloids several hundreds or probably thousands of years after their invention, or we know early vexilloids, but do not recognize them, because they are too simple to be recognized as flags/vexilloids.

Flag-like vexilloids seem to have no common origin, but had been obviously invented several times simultaneously. Cloth flags perhaps were first used in China (according to Smith); how they spread, is unknown. My personal opinion, however, is that also cloth flags had been invented several times simultaneously. "

[DB10GOONER]

The Stadium Management team like nothing better than an easy life for every match, and it is very difficult to get anything outside of the ordinary organised.

It took four seasons to have them give the OK for the giant 'crowd surfer' flag now seen pre match in the North Bank, but even now it cannot move 'round the corner' to the East Stand, as that would 'create too many problems'.

Was that giant flag a Red Action inovation?

Oh! No flags were about long before Red Action mate...

""The earliest flag like objects were essentially symbols (called "vexilloids"), three-dimensional symbols on a staff, made from from metal, wood or stone (also feathers, plant material etc), not from cloth. They came in a wide variety, different from culture to culture. In most cases we only have depictions of the vexilloid, without knowledge of the material. Ancient textile flags ("flags proper") are very rarely preserved, so we have not much knowledge on the material. We know, that silk played an important role in China; in Europe and adjacent areas, wool and linen were more important. The oldest preserved textile flag of an European origin is a Roman "vexillum" cloth found in Egypt (3rd century AD ??); this was made from crude linen.

Animal figures played a prominent role, though. We know different animals as parts of standards from Egypt; the Romans used an eagle standard (earlier on some other animals as well). If we assume (as Smith does), that textile flags have their origin in China, we don't know much about the actual design of these Chinese flags. If we assume that textile flags were "invented" simultaneously on several places, it is even more difficult.

The early flag-like symbols we know of were already pretty elaborate. However, due to our lack of knowledge, we can assume, that either we just know the flags/vexilloids several hundreds or probably thousands of years after their invention, or we know early vexilloids, but do not recognize them, because they are too simple to be recognized as flags/vexilloids.

Flag-like vexilloids seem to have no common origin, but had been obviously invented several times simultaneously. Cloth flags perhaps were first used in China (according to Smith); how they spread, is unknown. My personal opinion, however, is that also cloth flags had been invented several times simultaneously. "

augieslop.

[OneBardGooner]

Now THAT was uncalled for!

[TheCook]

The Stadium Management team like nothing better than an easy life for every match, and it is very difficult to get anything outside of the ordinary organised.

It took four seasons to have them give the OK for the giant 'crowd surfer' flag now seen pre match in the North Bank, but even now it cannot move 'round the corner' to the East Stand, as that would 'create too many problems'.

Was that giant flag a Red Action inovation?

What exactly do you mean by innovation? The previous one 'WE ARE THE ARSENAL' with cannon, was designed by a regular user of this forum ( not me) and first used at Wembley a few yeas ago ; but after three seasons use and general wear and tear, it was replaced with the new '49' this season. REDaction ran a competition / vote thing over the summer open to everyone via social media, and this was the winning vote.

So you could say the flag 'belongs' to REDaction, although it was ultimately paid for by the Club.

[DB10GOONER]

The Stadium Management team like nothing better than an easy life for every match, and it is very difficult to get anything outside of the ordinary organised.

It took four seasons to have them give the OK for the giant 'crowd surfer' flag now seen pre match in the North Bank, but even now it cannot move 'round the corner' to the East Stand, as that would 'create too many problems'.

Was that giant flag a Red Action inovation?

What exactly do you mean by innovation? The previous one 'WE ARE THE ARSENAL' with cannon, was designed by a regular user of this forum ( not me) and first used at Wembley a few yeas ago ; but after three seasons use and general wear and tear, it was replaced with the new '49' this season. REDaction ran a competition / vote thing over the summer open to everyone via social media, and this was the winning vote.

So you could say the flag 'belongs' to REDaction, although it was ultimately paid for by the Club.

I was just a bit surprised the club allowed it tbh. Looks brilliant either way. Top work.