United Game away

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And yes, this doesn't mean the season is over. We're still in a good position and have shown good things so far this season. But ffs if there is one game that I wish we win more than any other in a season it's this one! I'm so f*ckin tired of this inferiority complex with those mancs!!!

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Glitch33 wrote:Thought Gnabry looked lively when he came on. Come have done with that pace and width earlier in the game.

Still top of the league and even more players to come back from injury and sickness.
Jesus , how half full is your glass.

We turned up at a stadium where for the first time only their strikers were better than what we had on offer, we gift them a cheap f**king goal, we then proceed to give away the ball with every second pass, sometimes we don't even get that far, we get scent of a goal and instead of shooting, we wait till the w**kers get everybody behind the ball, then shoot, we roll over for a team that the Dortmund team we just played would goose 10 times over and you talk about top of the league.

With all due respect mate F**K THE LEAGUE POSITION :banghead:

This was a chance to put them in their place and bury them for the season and with a good team out there bar the BFG, we BOTTLED it.

If you are happy with the league position, just think this, we couldn't get round a slow Evra, a liability Johnny Evans, a sh*te defensively Valencia,. A midfield with Phil Jones FFS. Our dynamic midfield and they all just wilted in the face of Phil f**king Jones. :banghead: :banghead:. That c**t probably got MOTM even though he wasn't really worked.. :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

Oh well at least we are top of the league in November. I'm off to Islington town hall, I hear there'll be an open top bus parade tomorrow morning :barscarf: :barscarf: :? :oops: :shock: :roll:

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SteveO 35 wrote:The performance that proves nothing has changed.
Give over man :lol: :wink: You really don't think anything has changed??? - the consistency of results surely is a step forward?

I get you want Wenger gone, and reminding everyone how bad we are, but only a moron wouldn't be able to see an improvement on what we've been served up in previous seasons.

Our consistency isn't an accident. The players have done well since March and deserve credit.

Today was poor though. They still don't look comfortable in big games, but that doesn't mean there hasn't been progress at the club. There clearly has.

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afcforever wrote:To lose at utd away 1 nil is never a disgrace and I thought we deserved a draw, great crosses from sagna. I honestly believe we can win the prem with a bit of luck. Hopefully in Jan we'll buy a world class striker.
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afcforever wrote:To lose at utd away 1 nil is never a disgrace and I thought we deserved a draw, great crosses from sagna. I honestly believe we can win the prem with a bit of luck. Hopefully in Jan we'll buy a world class striker.
The 'disgrace' was who was supposed to be there on the end of a match winning cross at the end.......a useless fat lump of Danish lard having us off for £50k per week.

Its not home games against Norwich or away games at Palace where our lack of strikers will show up.......it will be at Stamford Bridge, Old Trafford, the Etihad and any of the big CL teams in the knockout stage. That's when £40m strikers show what you're missing.

If we couldn't buy a world class striker in a 3 month window where selling teams had a fair chance of replacing them, then how the fuck will we do it in January. Talk of Ba ? He's no more than a Benayoun type option - a 'we'll have your cast offs' second best option. Higuain looked class again the other night..........he was dying to join us rather than that racist Scum from the bowels of Italy.......but we're owned and managed by small time charlies

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Sam59 wrote:
QuartzGooner wrote:
northbank123 wrote:Was anybody else disgusted by the effort levels at the end of that game?
I thought we looked genuinely exhausted, the Dortmund away game took it out of us.
Agree. But what kind of supposedly super fit young athlete doesn't lift their game at the thought of going 5 points clear?
There's no excuse unless the illness is more widespread than just Per and Rosicky.
Then you rotate. Gnabry gave Evra more to do in 10mins than our entire team.

Then you box a bit more clever. You let them have the ball defend deep and hit them on the break. We did a useless half way house which meant we slowed the game down, let them get behind the ball and then compounded this by giving the ball away in their defensive 3rd... :banghead:

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g88ner wrote:
Agreed. I wonder if the win over Dortmund acted as a blueprint for today, and if so that was a mistake.

We didn't have a shot in the first half today, and when I turned to my dad at half time and said we've been poor and too tentative, he basically said it's ok because that tactic worked in Dortmund as if that justified it.
DB10Gooner made a point earlier in the season, that Flamini and Arteta together in the Premier League does not work so well as in Europe.

I think he is right, Flamini or Arteta plus Ramsey is a better midfield balance in the league.

I wanted a double substitution with 30 minutes to go: a tired Ozil to be subbed, and Flamini was a wise withdraw once he was on a yellow card.
Replace Ozil with Gnabry, dropping Ramsey back into central midfield for Flamini.
Use Wilshere where Ramsey was, attacking midfield where his passing can open up opportunities.

I am usually keen on Wilshere in central deep midfield, but today's game was one where his vision would have been more useful further forward.

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g88ner wrote:
SteveO 35 wrote:The performance that proves nothing has changed.
Give over man :lol: :wink: You really don't think anything has changed??? - the consistency of results surely is a step forward?

I get you want Wenger gone, and reminding everyone how bad we are, but only a moron wouldn't be able to see a difference between Arsenal of 2013/14 and that of the Denilson era (for want of a better name :oops: :lol: )

Our consistency isn't an accident. The players have done well since March and deserve credit.

Today was poor though. They still don't look comfortable in big games, but that doesn't mean there hasn't been progress at the club. There clearly has.
Thanks for calling me a moron - helpful comment.

But to me nothing has changed. Honestly, we've been flat track bullies for years. In 2010 we were top of the league in February.......so why is being top of the league in October / November progress? People talk about our stunning unbeaten run but I called it when we beat Fulham months ago i.e. no more league defeats until November at Old Trafford.

That performance today was every bit as bad as last season's up there, except we had the excellent Gibbs instead of that pie eating wanker from Brazil. The 'progress' is a myth - we look to have progressed because our run in at the end of last season, and our start to this season has been against mainly weaker sides. For every player that has progressed i.e. Ramsey, there is one who has regressed i.e. Wilshere

If you look at our points tally against the same teams from last season then we are down on that. Maybe only 'morons' can spot that

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SteveO 35 wrote: The 'disgrace' was who was supposed to be there on the end of a match winning cross at the end.......a useless fat lump of Danish lard having us off for £50k per week.

Its not home games against Norwich or away games at Palace where our lack of strikers will show up.......it will be at Stamford Bridge, Old Trafford, the Etihad and any of the big CL teams in the knockout stage. That's when £40m strikers show what you're missing.
Who cares where Bendtner is from? It's cheap shot.

The important point is should have been replaced with a senior striker; Higuain, Villa, Remy (legal issues a worry though) etc.

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SteveO 35 wrote:
g88ner wrote:
SteveO 35 wrote:The performance that proves nothing has changed.
Give over man :lol: :wink: You really don't think anything has changed??? - the consistency of results surely is a step forward?

I get you want Wenger gone, and reminding everyone how bad we are, but only a moron wouldn't be able to see a difference between Arsenal of 2013/14 and that of the Denilson era (for want of a better name :oops: :lol: )

Our consistency isn't an accident. The players have done well since March and deserve credit.

Today was poor though. They still don't look comfortable in big games, but that doesn't mean there hasn't been progress at the club. There clearly has.
Thanks for calling me a moron - helpful comment.

But to me nothing has changed. Honestly, we've been flat track bullies for years. In 2010 we were top of the league in February.......so why is being top of the league in October / November progress? People talk about our stunning unbeaten run but I called it when we beat Fulham months ago i.e. no more league defeats until November at Old Trafford.

That performance today was every bit as bad as last season's up there, except we had the excellent Gibbs instead of that pie eating wanker from Brazil. The 'progress' is a myth - we look to have progressed because our run in at the end of last season, and our start to this season has been against mainly weaker sides. For every player that has progressed i.e. Ramsey, there is one who has regressed i.e. Wilshere

If you look at our points tally against the same teams from last season then we are down on that. Maybe only 'morons' can spot that
I'm pretty sure we only managed a point against the mousers last season... :rubchin:

The only weaker teams arguement..are you sure you aren't a journo :?

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Didn't set up right . Didn't play well . Leave 4 people attacking a ball at a corner . Then u lose . Utd were poor tonight .bit rarely looked like conceding . Zonal making ..... Meh !

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topgoon wrote:
SteveO 35 wrote:
g88ner wrote:
SteveO 35 wrote:The performance that proves nothing has changed.
Give over man :lol: :wink: You really don't think anything has changed??? - the consistency of results surely is a step forward?

I get you want Wenger gone, and reminding everyone how bad we are, but only a moron wouldn't be able to see a difference between Arsenal of 2013/14 and that of the Denilson era (for want of a better name :oops: :lol: )

Our consistency isn't an accident. The players have done well since March and deserve credit.

Today was poor though. They still don't look comfortable in big games, but that doesn't mean there hasn't been progress at the club. There clearly has.
Thanks for calling me a moron - helpful comment.

But to me nothing has changed. Honestly, we've been flat track bullies for years. In 2010 we were top of the league in February.......so why is being top of the league in October / November progress? People talk about our stunning unbeaten run but I called it when we beat Fulham months ago i.e. no more league defeats until November at Old Trafford.

That performance today was every bit as bad as last season's up there, except we had the excellent Gibbs instead of that pie eating wanker from Brazil. The 'progress' is a myth - we look to have progressed because our run in at the end of last season, and our start to this season has been against mainly weaker sides. For every player that has progressed i.e. Ramsey, there is one who has regressed i.e. Wilshere

If you look at our points tally against the same teams from last season then we are down on that. Maybe only 'morons' can spot that
I'm pretty sure we only managed a point against the mousers last season... :rubchin:

The only weaker teams arguement..are you sure you aren't a journo :?
So how did we do last year away to West Brom and home to Villa

I couldn't give a flying fuck what any journo says apart from that wanker Patrick Barclay who no doubt will go into hibernation until we beat Southampton

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QuartzGooner wrote:
SteveO 35 wrote: The 'disgrace' was who was supposed to be there on the end of a match winning cross at the end.......a useless fat lump of Danish lard having us off for £50k per week.

Its not home games against Norwich or away games at Palace where our lack of strikers will show up.......it will be at Stamford Bridge, Old Trafford, the Etihad and any of the big CL teams in the knockout stage. That's when £40m strikers show what you're missing.
Who cares where Bendtner is from? It's cheap shot.

The important point is should have been replaced with a senior striker; Higuain, Villa, Remy (legal issues a worry though) etc.
I don't give a fuck where he's from either Quartz......don't bring that into it, its a simple point of reference. What I care about is that nobody wanted him because he is fucking hopeless and overpaid and yet is our second choice striker. You agree with me on that point.

Villa was available for 5m. Don't agree about Remy because he would be too lightweight in games like today too.

Dzeko looks pissed off to be playing second or third fiddle at City and we should go and get him

As for people suggesting Podolski and Wally can play the lone striker, back to goal role.......words fail me

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As expected it was the same old shite at Old Traffart :banghead: Thsts 3 games the turncoat bastard has played against us and hes got 3 goals..all of them decisive.

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SteveO 35 wrote:
topgoon wrote:
SteveO 35 wrote:
g88ner wrote:
SteveO 35 wrote:The performance that proves nothing has changed.
Give over man :lol: :wink: You really don't think anything has changed??? - the consistency of results surely is a step forward?

I get you want Wenger gone, and reminding everyone how bad we are, but only a moron wouldn't be able to see a difference between Arsenal of 2013/14 and that of the Denilson era (for want of a better name :oops: :lol: )

Our consistency isn't an accident. The players have done well since March and deserve credit.

Today was poor though. They still don't look comfortable in big games, but that doesn't mean there hasn't been progress at the club. There clearly has.
Thanks for calling me a moron - helpful comment.

But to me nothing has changed. Honestly, we've been flat track bullies for years. In 2010 we were top of the league in February.......so why is being top of the league in October / November progress? People talk about our stunning unbeaten run but I called it when we beat Fulham months ago i.e. no more league defeats until November at Old Trafford.

That performance today was every bit as bad as last season's up there, except we had the excellent Gibbs instead of that pie eating wanker from Brazil. The 'progress' is a myth - we look to have progressed because our run in at the end of last season, and our start to this season has been against mainly weaker sides. For every player that has progressed i.e. Ramsey, there is one who has regressed i.e. Wilshere

If you look at our points tally against the same teams from last season then we are down on that. Maybe only 'morons' can spot that
I'm pretty sure we only managed a point against the mousers last season... :rubchin:

The only weaker teams arguement..are you sure you aren't a journo :?
So how did we do last year away to West Brom and home to Villa

I couldn't give a flying fuck what any journo says apart from that wanker Patrick Barclay who no doubt will go into hibernation until we beat Southampton
You are right WBA team of this season is the one of last season, Saints probably got relegated last season as well.

We are more consistent whether you like it or not but today was a combination of bottling it, tiredness(not enough rotation :banghead: ) and a ridiculous inferiority complex against a Manure team with 2 players of note.

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