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Not a great performance at all - several players were guilty of holding onto the ball too long instead of releasing it. Jack, Arteta, etc and our normal quick passing game just didn't click with many passes behind players.
Arteta was doing my head in during the last 10 mins, he had a great chance to put the ball in then decided to take 2 Everton players on with his pace
A draw is ok, given the other results but it was an ideal opportunity to establish a dominant lead.
Plus point - Walcott did a header !!!
Minus point - when we are under pressure we still look vulnerable, same old same old ? We shall see.
markyp wrote:are people here expecting us to go a season and win EVERY game?we will drop points,we cant win every game,we are better than we have been for years,you don't save efforts like everton scored from,it aint the end of the world,a bit disappointing YES but nobody wins every game,it could be worse,we could be chavski,city or utd right now but we are 5 POINTS CLEAR tonight,forget the 2 points dropped,against a very good everton side we earnt a point
Yes, but we HAVE been in their position for the past EIGHT SEASONS!!!
We had the game won - 10 mins to go and we BLOW IT !!!.
end of.
I don't understand everybodys optimism before this game,we didnt beat an average Everton last season,how did peeps think wed beat a very good Everton this term,a point is a point
And yet when I compare our results against the same teams we faced last season I hear that its not a valid comparison
T.S wrote:Great match. Thanks to yesterday's results we could afford to draw this. A win would have been great but a draw isn't the end of the world.
I'm sure many will disagree but I think AW deserves credit for making a bold change and going for it.
I think Everton missed a trick by not attacking Jenkinson more.
I don't have a problem with the changes as such but people have been quick to dismiss the suggest that we need a big physical DM but today showed how easily our smaller flair players can be negated in a game. Tbh I thought that ozil was doing ok in patches before santi went off but he really took it up a gear after the changes which brings me back to the question of whether a team with ozil, cazorla, ramsey and wilshere all starting is unbalanced and prevents all of them playing to their max
greedy he is, but thats modern footabll im afraid. barkley looked very good. i think we look far more solid with flamini playing and organising than when we dont.
Yeah I think that's fair. I know you're not his biggest fan but I love Flamini's attitude and I thought he drove the team forward when he came on. Playing all those midfielders is fine at home to Hull, but I do think it leaves us more unbalanced when it comes to stronger teams. Santi has been poor for a few games now but he is having to play much deeper than he is used to and I think that's affecting him too. He's getting marked out of games and I think we're better off leaving Wilshere in that deeper position with Flamini as a partner.
i think he should start everygame, all those on here bemoaning his signing have gone quiet
I'm not gone quiet - I am and always will call him flamoney because he is another money motivated player
For the record I don't dispute the energy he brings to the team (much needed energy at times too) but by the same token I haven't seen anybody refer to the ease at which barkley turned him for their equaliser
I know their defence is good and Howard was quite in form today, but Giroud was just not good enough. Apart from last kick in the crossbar (damn it, it should got in ), he missed too many chances, including the one which Özil then saved by scoring.
I'm not saying he didn't work hard, but when it came to finishing, which is his primary task...
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Everton will take points off Chavski and possibly Citeh. Yeah, we threw away a lead with 10 minutes to go, but overall not a bad result. Thought Kos did really well against Lukaku.
markyp wrote:are people here expecting us to go a season and win EVERY game?we will drop points,we cant win every game,we are better than we have been for years,you don't save efforts like everton scored from,it aint the end of the world,a bit disappointing YES but nobody wins every game,it could be worse,we could be chavski,city or utd right now but we are 5 POINTS CLEAR tonight,forget the 2 points dropped,against a very good everton side we earnt a point
Yes, but we HAVE been in their position for the past EIGHT SEASONS!!!
We had the game won - 10 mins to go and we BLOW IT !!!.
end of.
I don't understand everybodys optimism before this game,we didnt beat an average Everton last season,how did peeps think wed beat a very good Everton this term,a point is a point
there not very good really. they are decent. they beat an awful united team. we were at home. we are better than last season, so are they. we should always beat everton at home.
markyp wrote:are people here expecting us to go a season and win EVERY game?we will drop points,we cant win every game,we are better than we have been for years,you don't save efforts like everton scored from,it aint the end of the world,a bit disappointing YES but nobody wins every game,it could be worse,we could be chavski,city or utd right now but we are 5 POINTS CLEAR tonight,forget the 2 points dropped,against a very good everton side we earnt a point
Yes, but we HAVE been in their position for the past EIGHT SEASONS!!!
We had the game won - 10 mins to go and we BLOW IT !!!.
end of.
I don't understand everybodys optimism before this game,we didnt beat an average Everton last season,how did peeps think wed beat a very good Everton this term,a point is a point
The bar has been raised - and so our hopes......
Just like the past Eight Seasons.....we have the opportunity - a Real Chance to extend our lead by 7 instead of 5 points... especially with chavs & $hitty games up next! - that alone should have drove on the players to win this game.....some players simply are not good enough and never will be...nice chaps yes! Good enough to wear the Red & White of Arsenal!? No. (Jenks & Gibbs that is).
mccarthy should of gone off for that tackle on Ramsey, studs up.
BTW Lineker just said that we showed a resilience today that leads him to tip us a Champions. made the same point as me - we let them pass it around and they didn't really do anything with it.
clockender1 wrote:
maybe flam should of started, but maybe AW sees the City game as more important and he'll start him then.
naive if true. win the winnable games imo. wed do very well to get anything out of city...better to make sure of 3 points in a winnable game and just hope for whatever at city surely?
greedy he is, but thats modern football im afraid. barkley looked very good. i think we look far more solid with flamini playing and organizing than when we dont.
goonertux wrote:Everton will take points off Chavski and possibly Citeh. Yeah, we threw away a lead with 10 minutes to go, but overall not a bad result. Thought Kos did really well against Lukaku.
clockender1 wrote:
maybe flam should of started, but maybe AW sees the City game as more important and he'll start him then.
naive if true. win the winnable games imo. wed do very well to get anything out of city...better to make sure of 3 points in a winnable game and just hope for whatever at city surely?
Yup, you have to take the next match (regardless of what follows) and treat that game as THE most important game, also a winning streak hekps breed more confidence....our players (as are we - well some of us ) will be disappointed by only getting a draw after being ahead 10 minutes from time - At Home!.
Yeah I didn't think Giroud had a great game today, although in his defence the quality of the service was poor. He's been like a different player this season but he is not the sort of striker who is going to bail you out when you're playing poorly. It was the same at United - quality of our possession and play was dire but he did nothing to make the most of it, he was dreadful.
Unfortunately he's just not at the level of Aguero, van Judas, Rooney.
clockender1 wrote:mccarthy should of gone off for that tackle on Ramsey, studs up.
BTW Lineker just said that we showed a resilience today that leads him to tip us a Champions. made the same point as me - we let them pass it around and they didn't really do anything with it.
also said Martinez is heir apparent to AW
Couldn't understand our shite first half, no pressure on the man with the ball just hope our defence can hold firm - then we did get it we didn't even counter attack at pace..
Wasted almost all of the first half "containing" them, 2nd half we created far more and had we started like that might have gone a goal or two up.
), he missed too many chances, including the one which Özil then saved by scoring.
) will be disappointed by only getting a draw after being ahead 10 minutes from time - At Home!.
