THE WENGER THREAD

[kiwomya]

If we won the league City and Chelsea would go and spend another 100M each in the summer to make sure it didn't happen again next season. Although Chelsea seemed to have slowed down, they still spent 60M+ in the summer in acquiring players they didn't really need. Whilst they have monopoly money and are able to buy an infinite amount of players, we're going to remain bystanders along with Liverpool, Spurs and the other "nearly" teams. For me, the Champions League is pretty much the same. Get drawn against Real, Barca, PSG (probably Monaco in the next few years) and you'll be up against the overseas versions of City/Chelsea.

Football fans shouldn't need to be interested in the money side of things but in 2013, unfortunately, you do.

The old money argument. No amount of money spent by other teams is a viable excuse for us getting shitter. It's not just that other teams have surpassed us, we have gone backwards.

I can't sit here and say i'm overjoyed with all aspects of the club but we've not gone backwards nor are we "shitter". I honestly can't see how you can come to that conclusion. We've already got more league points than we finished with at the close of 2012, that's also whilst competing in a tough CL group where we also finished with more points than last season.

[I Hate Hleb]

If we won the league City and Chelsea would go and spend another 100M each in the summer to make sure it didn't happen again next season. Although Chelsea seemed to have slowed down, they still spent 60M+ in the summer in acquiring players they didn't really need. Whilst they have monopoly money and are able to buy an infinite amount of players, we're going to remain bystanders along with Liverpool, Spurs and the other "nearly" teams. For me, the Champions League is pretty much the same. Get drawn against Real, Barca, PSG (probably Monaco in the next few years) and you'll be up against the overseas versions of City/Chelsea.

Football fans shouldn't need to be interested in the money side of things but in 2013, unfortunately, you do.

This is an excuse, and nothing else. The other teams may have more money, but that does not explain, why we do little or no business in the transfer market. Even this summer when we signed a world class player, we neglected making other signings we needed, mainly a world class striker. Arsenal are a club interested in top four finishes, and nothing else. Oh, and your money argument falls down, when you see Wigan, Birmingham, Portsmouth, and Swansea, who have all been more successful than Arsenal in the past eight years.

I'm just offering it as how I see it.

I'm not sure winning a single cup makes up for relegation though. I think if you were to ask any fan of those four clubs who was more successful I think they might just disagree with you.

On the contrary, I've heard most fans of those clubs when questioned by the media, say they wouldn't swap the day and seeing their team win a trophy, for staying up. I appreciate it's different for them as they're not used to success but the general point is still valid.

[Leyton Gooner]

If we won a trophy while being "relegated" from the Be All And End All bloated bore fest that is the champions league (i.e not winning the VT) I'd be over the fucking moon

[northbank123]

If we won the league City and Chelsea would go and spend another 100M each in the summer to make sure it didn't happen again next season. Although Chelsea seemed to have slowed down, they still spent 60M+ in the summer in acquiring players they didn't really need. Whilst they have monopoly money and are able to buy an infinite amount of players, we're going to remain bystanders along with Liverpool, Spurs and the other "nearly" teams. For me, the Champions League is pretty much the same. Get drawn against Real, Barca, PSG (probably Monaco in the next few years) and you'll be up against the overseas versions of City/Chelsea.

Football fans shouldn't need to be interested in the money side of things but in 2013, unfortunately, you do.

The old money argument. No amount of money spent by other teams is a viable excuse for us getting shitter. It's not just that other teams have surpassed us, we have gone backwards.

I can't sit here and say i'm overjoyed with all aspects of the club but we've not gone backwards nor are we "shitter". I honestly can't see how you can come to that conclusion. We've already got more league points than we finished with at the close of 2012, that's also whilst competing in a tough CL group where we also finished with more points than last season.

We're not shitter than we were in 2012, I didn't mean to suggest we were. I was more referring to the previous 8 seasons where we were going backwards every year.

[armchair]

I'm not sure winning a single cup makes up for relegation though. I think if you were to ask any fan of those four clubs who was more successful I think they might just disagree with you.

Im sure I must be reading this wrong or maybe reading too much into it. But to me this post seems to suggest that if we actually try to win a domestic cup, (And not sacrifice it by dropping key players to chase the 4th place trophy or CL) may be in danger of relegation?

I am wrong arent I?

[Steve_I]

I'm not sure winning a single cup makes up for relegation though. I think if you were to ask any fan of those four clubs who was more successful I think they might just disagree with you.

Im sure I must be reading this wrong or maybe reading too much into it. But to me this post seems to suggest that if we actually try to win a domestic cup, (And not sacrifice it by dropping key players to chase the 4th place trophy or CL) may be in danger of relegation?

I am wrong arent I?

I believe you are....







...in many ways.

[DB10GOONER]

Furburger

Fantastic return shot. Deuce!

[falkirk goon]

Furburger

Fantastic return shot. Deuce!

[Swifty]

AVB is available! DOES spend money - DOESN'T win stuff. 50% improvement.......

[DB10GOONER]

AVB is available! DOES spend money - DOESN'T win stuff. 50% improvement.......

Superb.

[SPUDMASHER]

Ditto

[SteveO 35]

AVB is available! DOES spend money - DOESN'T win stuff. 50% improvement.......

And still won more trophies in one season (10/11) than Wenger has in the last decade !

[mcdowell42]

AVB is available! DOES spend money - DOESN'T win stuff. 50% improvement.......

And still won more trophies in one season (10/11) than Wenger has in the last decade !

Oh sign him up quick

[SteveO 35]

AVB is available! DOES spend money - DOESN'T win stuff. 50% improvement.......

And still won more trophies in one season (10/11) than Wenger has in the last decade !

Oh sign him up quick

Not saying that for a minute......

[defleppardisking]

AVB AVB.................. THERE'S ONLY ONE AVB