THE WENGER THREAD

[MrT]

All this waffle about hindsight.....YAWN

He should be sacked solely for not winning fuck all in nearly 9 years. How is this fundamentally lost on these AKBs?

But football isn't just about winning trophies is it...

[kiwomya]

All this waffle about hindsight.....YAWN

He should be sacked solely for not winning fuck all in nearly 9 years. How is this fundamentally lost on these AKBs?

But football isn't just about winning trophies is it...

Have a day off mate. What do you come on here for if it's not have a discussion about the club?

[rodders999]

What do you come on here for if it's not have a discussion about the club?

The titty threads

[MrT]

All this waffle about hindsight.....YAWN

He should be sacked solely for not winning fuck all in nearly 9 years. How is this fundamentally lost on these AKBs?

But football isn't just about winning trophies is it...

Have a day off mate. What do you come on here for if it's not have a discussion about the club?

What's there to discuss oh wise one? There is no in-depth constructive discussion with AKBs. Their views are set in stone and they will not budge out of loyalty to their dear leader.

I remember how Babatunde used to take the piss out of you constantly, I understand why.

[Steve_I]

All this waffle about hindsight.....YAWN
He should be sacked solely for not winning fuck all in nearly 9 years. How is this fundamentally lost on these AKBs?

But football isn't just about winning trophies is it...

lol, I'm sorry mate and I genuinely don't want to sound like a ctnu but on this occasion I will...

can you not see what you did there ?

Either I can use a hindsight argument to try and put my point across or I can't... happy with either, but to be told I'm waffling on about hindsight and immediately be hit with a hindsight view, is perhaps significant... is it not?

[kiwomya]

All this waffle about hindsight.....YAWN

He should be sacked solely for not winning fuck all in nearly 9 years. How is this fundamentally lost on these AKBs?

But football isn't just about winning trophies is it...

Have a day off mate. What do you come on here for if it's not have a discussion about the club?

What's there to discuss oh wise one? There is no in-depth constructive discussion with AKBs. Their views are set in stone and they will not budge out of loyalty to their dear leader.

I remember how Babatunde used to take the piss out of you constantly, I understand why.

Oh right, thanks for clearing that up.

[MrT]

All this waffle about hindsight.....YAWN
He should be sacked solely for not winning fuck all in nearly 9 years. How is this fundamentally lost on these AKBs?

But football isn't just about winning trophies is it...

lol, I'm sorry mate and I genuinely don't want to sound like a ctnu but on this occasion I will...

can you not see what you did there ?

Either I can use a hindsight argument to try and put my point across or I can't... happy with either, but to be told I'm waffling on about hindsight and immediately be hit with a hindsight view, is perhaps significant... is it not?

Difference being is my hindsight is based on fact, yours is based on your preconceived notion of success and potentially winning something in the future...Football is a results business, you are judged on your levels of success. Those levels of success are determined by big shiny things called trophies, not finances. If said manager does not win trophies for an extended period of time he cannot claim to be successful and if you are not successful then you are a failure. I feel like I'm explaining the basics of success and failure to a child.

You're not sounding like a *word censored*, but a pedantic *word censored* is more apt.

[SteveO 35]

All this waffle about hindsight.....YAWN

He should be sacked solely for not winning fuck all in nearly 9 years. How is this fundamentally lost on these AKBs?

But football isn't just about winning trophies is it...

Have a day off mate. What do you come on here for if it's not have a discussion about the club?

What's there to discuss oh wise one? There is no in-depth constructive discussion with AKBs. Their views are set in stone and they will not budge out of loyalty to their dear leader.

I remember how Babatunde used to take the piss out of you constantly, I understand why.

Kiwomya - can you clarify if you were the one referred to once as one of "Arsene's little helpers"?

[MrT]

All this waffle about hindsight.....YAWN

He should be sacked solely for not winning fuck all in nearly 9 years. How is this fundamentally lost on these AKBs?

But football isn't just about winning trophies is it...

Have a day off mate. What do you come on here for if it's not have a discussion about the club?

What's there to discuss oh wise one? There is no in-depth constructive discussion with AKBs. Their views are set in stone and they will not budge out of loyalty to their dear leader.

I remember how Babatunde used to take the piss out of you constantly, I understand why.

Kiwomya - can you clarify if you were the one referred to once as one of "Arsene's little helpers"?

Brilliant and hardly surprising.

Babatunde was ahead of his time, I for one would welcome him back upon the signing of Kalou.

[SteveO 35]

Does the bring back Baba and Red thread start here ?

[MrT]

Baba was entertaining in his interactions with kiwomya, similar to the interaction between a father (baba) and his red headed stepchild (kiwomya).

Red's stupidity was unparalleled and for entertainment value alone should be allowed to come back.

[Steve_I]

Difference being is my hindsight is based on fact, yours is based on your preconceived notion of success and potentially winning something in the future...Football is a results business, you are judged on your levels of success. Those levels of success are determined by big shiny things called trophies, not finances. If said manager does not win trophies for an extended period of time he cannot claim to be successful and if you are not successful then you are a failure. I feel like I'm explaining the basics of success and failure to a child.

You're not sounding like a *word censored*, but a pedantic *word censored* is more apt.

hehe, my hindsight is based on my notion of something happening in the future? er

I agree that more trophies over the last few years would have been nice although I do not, as I have said on many occasions, believe that we have failed. I think we have done so much better than 'average' as people say, we have not 'failed' but have kept our self above 88 other teams in the leagues, hundreds across Europe, and have not been 'cash' rich until now. We have not had loads of money to spend and have in fact been harranged by market forces but have held our own very admirably.

To me that is Fact. To you Fact is that we haven't won anything therefore Arsene should go. I can see that point of view, maybe I can't accept it but I can understand how some might think that. because I don't think that does not mean my thoughts are wrong, but you have decided they are.

It is clear that we won't agree but it makes neither of us right or wrong, only in our own minds.

I had a debate along similar lines with a friend of a friend in the pub post FA cup game last week. We both argued our views and both accepted we weren't going to change each otehrs and both responsibly got drunk and said we'd see each other next time. Neither of us called the other a child though

I believe you believe what you say you believe but I believe your belief is misguided, exactly, I assume, as you do mine.

[SteveO 35]

WHAT DO WE WANT? Baba and Red

WHEN DO WE WANT THEM? Now

[mcdowell42]

Baba and Red are not coming

[SteveO 35]

Baba and Red are not coming