Arsenal Slip on Deloitte Money League table

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Arsenal Slip on Deloitte Money League table

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Not surprising our matchday revenue as a proportion of total income is much higher than our european peers. We still fail miserably on the commercial front.

Not good to see the chavs and city overtake us.

http://www.deloitte.com/view/en_GB/uk/i ... /index.htm

http://fcbusiness.co.uk/news/article/ne ... ses+%805bn

If the main report is too much, the summary says it all. Arsenal have hit saturation point on matchday revenues, its annoying that we have taken soo long to tap into the far east/north america.

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But haven't you heard....the new commercial deals are coming :barscarf: :barscarf: :barscarf:

And the Arsenal spending revolution is coming :barscarf: :barscarf: :barscarf:

This Summer he's gonna spend big !

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nut flush gooner wrote:Not surprising our matchday revenue as a proportion of total income is much higher than our european peers. We still fail miserably on the commercial front.

Not good to see the chavs and city overtake us.

http://www.deloitte.com/view/en_GB/uk/i ... /index.htm

http://fcbusiness.co.uk/news/article/ne ... ses+%805bn

If the main report is too much, the summary says it all. Arsenal have hit saturation point on matchday revenues, its annoying that we have taken soo long to tap into the far east/north america.
Of the EPL teams on that least, Citeh have the lowest match day revenues, didn't get out of the group stage of the CL and performed less well on the field yet revenues went up. :rubchin:

Would love to see how many of their sponsorship deals aren't linked to the Abu Dhabi royal family, whch basically owns all the companies in the oil rich state.

This is why FFP is a pointless joke.

The chavs convert their £800million+ debt with the Russian into shares :roll: , Shitty get rid of their debt being sponsored by the same family that owns them and you know PSG are gong to start getting lots of Qatari based companies that are dying to sponsor them.

They should just chuck the FFP rules into the nearest bin and let the free for all continue as it looks like it never stopped anyway :roll:

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topgoon wrote:
nut flush gooner wrote:Not surprising our matchday revenue as a proportion of total income is much higher than our european peers. We still fail miserably on the commercial front.

Not good to see the chavs and city overtake us.

http://www.deloitte.com/view/en_GB/uk/i ... /index.htm

http://fcbusiness.co.uk/news/article/ne ... ses+%805bn

If the main report is too much, the summary says it all. Arsenal have hit saturation point on matchday revenues, its annoying that we have taken soo long to tap into the far east/north america.
Of the EPL teams on that least, Citeh have the lowest match day revenues, didn't get out of the group stage of the CL and performed less well on the field yet revenues went up. :rubchin:

Would love to see how many of their sponsorship deals aren't linked to the Abu Dhabi royal family, whch basically owns all the companies in the oil rich state.

This is why FFP is a pointless joke.

The chavs convert their £800million+ debt with the Russian into shares :roll: , Shitty get rid of their debt being sponsored by the same family that owns them and you know PSG are gong to start getting lots of Qatari based companies that are dying to sponsor them.

They should just chuck the FFP rules into the nearest bin and let the free for all continue as it looks like it never stopped anyway :roll:
FFP was a joke the day it was first mentioned by UEFA. Legally challenged and impossible to implement. Since when can you tell a rich man he isn't free to invest in what he wants? Legally IMPOSSIBLE to implement

FFP isn't coming

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Don't give a flying fcuk about Deloitte money list cos at the end of the day the clubs wealth is kroenke's wealth and it won't matter a jot to us fans.
Don't give a flying fcuk about the share price of the club either - as fans we wont gain a penny and the club itself won't earn a crust regardless of whether the shares reach a record high price or if they crash and burn and become totally worthless. Syrup head is the guy who will be most affected by share prices.
Don't give a flying fcuk about FFP either and hope that it never comes in - if it was implemented our ticket prices wouldn't decrease and nor would the cost of club merchandise so the club income would remain the same but it might allow the club to win some trophies whilst continuing to fleece us fans whilst investing fcuk all and reverting to make profits in the transfer windows :roll: Same income and less expenditure means record profits and better share prices which will again please the silent money grabbing freeloading yank b*stard - he married into a fortune and continues to earn money off other people's efforts to this day but I'm sure the sweatshop workers will be suitably rewarded :roll: :cussing:

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for once Im with Auguie ,so fucking what !

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Not surprised. Not bothered.

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Look - we're 4th out of the English clubs ok.....which means Arsene is working miracles. If you don't like it then sod off and support Spurs. One day we could be behind Portsmouth on the list, so stop dreaming of yer Draxlers and Costas....and get N'tep in your head

In fact

Oops...we've signed N'Tep
I said oops we've signed N'Tep

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SteveO 35 wrote:Look - we're 4th out of the English clubs ok.....which means Arsene is working miracles. If you don't like it then sod off and support Spurs. One day we could be behind Portsmouth on the list, so stop dreaming of yer Draxlers and Costas....and get N'tep in your head

In fact

Oops...we've signed N'Tep
I said oops we've signed N'Tep
:tumbleweed:

woo, that's bad, SteveO - even by your usually shit standards! :lol: :wink:

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DB10GOONER wrote:
SteveO 35 wrote:Look - we're 4th out of the English clubs ok.....which means Arsene is working miracles. If you don't like it then sod off and support Spurs. One day we could be behind Portsmouth on the list, so stop dreaming of yer Draxlers and Costas....and get N'tep in your head

In fact

Oops...we've signed N'Tep
I said oops we've signed N'Tep
:tumbleweed:

woo, that's bad, SteveO - even by your usually shit standards! :lol: :wink:
The Gap Band aren't coming

:barscarf: :barscarf: :barscarf:

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Personally I don't Mind The Gap band :)

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augie wrote:Don't give a flying fcuk about Deloitte money list cos at the end of the day the clubs wealth is kroenke's wealth and it won't matter a jot to us fans.
Don't give a flying fcuk about the share price of the club either - as fans we wont gain a penny and the club itself won't earn a crust regardless of whether the shares reach a record high price or if they crash and burn and become totally worthless. Syrup head is the guy who will be most affected by share prices.
Don't give a flying fcuk about FFP either and hope that it never comes in - if it was implemented our ticket prices wouldn't decrease and nor would the cost of club merchandise so the club income would remain the same but it might allow the club to win some trophies whilst continuing to fleece us fans whilst investing fcuk all and reverting to make profits in the transfer windows :roll: Same income and less expenditure means record profits and better share prices which will again please the silent money grabbing freeloading yank b*stard - he married into a fortune and continues to earn money off other people's efforts to this day but I'm sure the sweatshop workers will be suitably rewarded :roll: :cussing:
How can you not care about finances???? Any fan that spends their hard earned dosh at the emirates has every reason to question the way the club sells itself.

Until a few seasons ago, manures ticket prices where amongst the cheapest in the prem. I bet they thought, ahh if arsenal can fleece their fans so can we, after all most of our plastics come from that area! But they go further than that, they actually make tons of dosh overseas.

By having a strong commercial arm, Arsenal has a chance to reward its most loyal customers ie matchday fans by not increasing ticket prices well above inflation, as it has done over the last 20 years.

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nut flush gooner wrote:
augie wrote:Don't give a flying fcuk about Deloitte money list cos at the end of the day the clubs wealth is kroenke's wealth and it won't matter a jot to us fans.
Don't give a flying fcuk about the share price of the club either - as fans we wont gain a penny and the club itself won't earn a crust regardless of whether the shares reach a record high price or if they crash and burn and become totally worthless. Syrup head is the guy who will be most affected by share prices.
Don't give a flying fcuk about FFP either and hope that it never comes in - if it was implemented our ticket prices wouldn't decrease and nor would the cost of club merchandise so the club income would remain the same but it might allow the club to win some trophies whilst continuing to fleece us fans whilst investing fcuk all and reverting to make profits in the transfer windows :roll: Same income and less expenditure means record profits and better share prices which will again please the silent money grabbing freeloading yank b*stard - he married into a fortune and continues to earn money off other people's efforts to this day but I'm sure the sweatshop workers will be suitably rewarded :roll: :cussing:
How can you not care about finances???? Any fan that spends their hard earned dosh at the emirates has every reason to question the way the club sells itself.

Until a few seasons ago, manures ticket prices where amongst the cheapest in the prem. I bet they thought, ahh if arsenal can fleece their fans so can we, after all most of our plastics come from that area! But they go further than that, they actually make tons of dosh overseas.

By having a strong commercial arm, Arsenal has a chance to reward its most loyal customers ie matchday fans by not increasing ticket prices well above inflation, as it has done over the last 20 years.
I no longer care about our finances because they are solely for the benefit of our majority shareholder. Once you sell your soul to a controlling shareholder you are completely at the mercy of one man who can vote for dividends, set the transfer and wages policy and have the final say on all commercial matters. The club chose this path despite declaring him the antichrist years before ("we don't need his money and we don't want his sort").

Frankly anyone paying money into the club can be nothing more than a casually interested bystander because you sure as hell don't have a say (or not one that matters in how the club conducts its business)

That's why I couldn't give a flying fuck whether or not we get CL football. Everyone talks about its financial benefit but (a) it doesn't help retain our best players (b) it doesn't allow us to sign top ones anywhere near regularly enough and (c) the financial rewards are for the benefit of Stan Kroenke and nobody else.......so why the fuck should I get excited about a competition we can't win that makes a wealthy man even wealthier

The day we go back to being a football club that reinvests its profits into the first team squad I'll regain some interest in the finances. All the while its run as a property enterprise where the profits are owned by a 67% controlling shareholder I'll have no fucking interest whatsoever

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SteveO 35 wrote:
nut flush gooner wrote:
augie wrote:Don't give a flying fcuk about Deloitte money list cos at the end of the day the clubs wealth is kroenke's wealth and it won't matter a jot to us fans.
Don't give a flying fcuk about the share price of the club either - as fans we wont gain a penny and the club itself won't earn a crust regardless of whether the shares reach a record high price or if they crash and burn and become totally worthless. Syrup head is the guy who will be most affected by share prices.
Don't give a flying fcuk about FFP either and hope that it never comes in - if it was implemented our ticket prices wouldn't decrease and nor would the cost of club merchandise so the club income would remain the same but it might allow the club to win some trophies whilst continuing to fleece us fans whilst investing fcuk all and reverting to make profits in the transfer windows :roll: Same income and less expenditure means record profits and better share prices which will again please the silent money grabbing freeloading yank b*stard - he married into a fortune and continues to earn money off other people's efforts to this day but I'm sure the sweatshop workers will be suitably rewarded :roll: :cussing:
How can you not care about finances???? Any fan that spends their hard earned dosh at the emirates has every reason to question the way the club sells itself.

Until a few seasons ago, manures ticket prices where amongst the cheapest in the prem. I bet they thought, ahh if arsenal can fleece their fans so can we, after all most of our plastics come from that area! But they go further than that, they actually make tons of dosh overseas.

By having a strong commercial arm, Arsenal has a chance to reward its most loyal customers ie matchday fans by not increasing ticket prices well above inflation, as it has done over the last 20 years.
I no longer care about our finances because they are solely for the benefit of our majority shareholder. Once you sell your soul to a controlling shareholder you are completely at the mercy of one man who can vote for dividends, set the transfer and wages policy and have the final say on all commercial matters. The club chose this path despite declaring him the antichrist years before ("we don't need his money and we don't want his sort").

Frankly anyone paying money into the club can be nothing more than a casually interested bystander because you sure as hell don't have a say (or not one that matters in how the club conducts its business)

That's why I couldn't give a flying fuck whether or not we get CL football. Everyone talks about its financial benefit but (a) it doesn't help retain our best players (b) it doesn't allow us to sign top ones anywhere near regularly enough and (c) the financial rewards are for the benefit of Stan Kroenke and nobody else.......so why the fuck should I get excited about a competition we can't win that makes a wealthy man even wealthier

The day we go back to being a football club that reinvests its profits into the first team squad I'll regain some interest in the finances. All the while its run as a property enterprise where the profits are owned by a 67% controlling shareholder I'll have no fucking interest whatsoever
Utopia in football doesn't exist. You know what you say will never happen. To be fair it didn't happen pre wenger, we have always been a frugal club.

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nut flush gooner wrote:
SteveO 35 wrote:
nut flush gooner wrote:
augie wrote:Don't give a flying fcuk about Deloitte money list cos at the end of the day the clubs wealth is kroenke's wealth and it won't matter a jot to us fans.
Don't give a flying fcuk about the share price of the club either - as fans we wont gain a penny and the club itself won't earn a crust regardless of whether the shares reach a record high price or if they crash and burn and become totally worthless. Syrup head is the guy who will be most affected by share prices.
Don't give a flying fcuk about FFP either and hope that it never comes in - if it was implemented our ticket prices wouldn't decrease and nor would the cost of club merchandise so the club income would remain the same but it might allow the club to win some trophies whilst continuing to fleece us fans whilst investing fcuk all and reverting to make profits in the transfer windows :roll: Same income and less expenditure means record profits and better share prices which will again please the silent money grabbing freeloading yank b*stard - he married into a fortune and continues to earn money off other people's efforts to this day but I'm sure the sweatshop workers will be suitably rewarded :roll: :cussing:
How can you not care about finances???? Any fan that spends their hard earned dosh at the emirates has every reason to question the way the club sells itself.

Until a few seasons ago, manures ticket prices where amongst the cheapest in the prem. I bet they thought, ahh if arsenal can fleece their fans so can we, after all most of our plastics come from that area! But they go further than that, they actually make tons of dosh overseas.

By having a strong commercial arm, Arsenal has a chance to reward its most loyal customers ie matchday fans by not increasing ticket prices well above inflation, as it has done over the last 20 years.
I no longer care about our finances because they are solely for the benefit of our majority shareholder. Once you sell your soul to a controlling shareholder you are completely at the mercy of one man who can vote for dividends, set the transfer and wages policy and have the final say on all commercial matters. The club chose this path despite declaring him the antichrist years before ("we don't need his money and we don't want his sort").

Frankly anyone paying money into the club can be nothing more than a casually interested bystander because you sure as hell don't have a say (or not one that matters in how the club conducts its business)

That's why I couldn't give a flying fuck whether or not we get CL football. Everyone talks about its financial benefit but (a) it doesn't help retain our best players (b) it doesn't allow us to sign top ones anywhere near regularly enough and (c) the financial rewards are for the benefit of Stan Kroenke and nobody else.......so why the fuck should I get excited about a competition we can't win that makes a wealthy man even wealthier

The day we go back to being a football club that reinvests its profits into the first team squad I'll regain some interest in the finances. All the while its run as a property enterprise where the profits are owned by a 67% controlling shareholder I'll have no fucking interest whatsoever
Utopia in football doesn't exist. You know what you say will never happen. To be fair it didn't happen pre wenger, we have always been a frugal club.
Pre Kroenke the club most certainly were not so openly taking the piss out of the fans with their ticketing policy and we weren't a property company. I'm not sure what the utopia is that you're referring to.

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