THE WENGER THREAD

[Steviegooner]

It's called venting frustrations, I believe he is a great manager and I feel lucky to have seen great players such as Henry, pires ect. Fact is the last time I see that my daughter was just born, now ten years and many mistakes later such as 2008 we are still witnessing the same mistakes. And apologies regarding the location comment I just think that real supporters should be able to air their opinions and views.

[p206ab]

While Michael Laudrup is being pushed out by Swans and Wenger not signing new contract...

[augie]

While Michael Laudrup is being pushed out by Swans and Wenger not signing new contract...

Have wondered that myself for the past couple of weeks - laudrup doesn't seem to bothered about Swansea this season(which surprises me tbh) and I have been asking myself why that is Tying it in with the wenker situation is just wishful thinking on my behalf

[LeftfootlegendGooner]

While Michael Laudrup is being pushed out by Swans and Wenger not signing new contract...

Have wondered that myself for the past couple of weeks - laudrup doesn't seem to bothered about Swansea this season(which surprises me tbh) and I have been asking myself why that is Tying it in with the wenker situation is just wishful thinking on my behalf

Do you think laudrup is up to taking on a club the size of Arsenal.

[northbank123]

Schalke say no Arsenal bid - bid was from Wolfsburg.

Apparently we can't compete with Wolfsburg now..

And that comment about 'if we had three more days' is priceless' - that's why you sign em as soon as the window opens you numpty.

At the risk of sounding like Arsene where on earth are Wolfsburg getting this money from? Apparently paying huge bucks to Gustavo, horrendously overpaid for de Bruyne and now tabling a bid for a player that the club wouldn't dream of selling for less than £30m. For a team that finished 11th in Germany last year and are currently 6th they sure are throwing the cash about.

[Chippy]

Schalke say no Arsenal bid - bid was from Wolfsburg.

Apparently we can't compete with Wolfsburg now..

And that comment about 'if we had three more days' is priceless' - that's why you sign em as soon as the window opens you numpty.

At the risk of sounding like Arsene where on earth are Wolfsburg getting this money from? Apparently paying huge bucks to Gustavo, horrendously overpaid for de Bruyne and now tabling a bid for a player that the club wouldn't dream of selling for less than £30m. For a team that finished 11th in Germany last year and are currently 6th they sure are throwing the cash about.

You know they're part of Volkswagen?

[augie]

LDB, there are a few differences in the moyes situation imo -

Moyes took over a squad that was an absolute mess

That team won the league easily a few months before he took over. One player left (paul scholes).

In the matter of 2 months you don't suddenly go from champions to "an absolute mess" in my opinion. Moyes has cocked that team up completely.

Can we please try looking at this situation objectively ? The chavs were a mess last season (firstly the players didn't want avb and then the fans didn't want his successor the fat waiter). Citeeh were all over the shop - they had a manager (mancini) who the fans loved but nobody else seemed to, and were having training ground bust ups on a regular basis I would also suggest that they, like we have in the past, suffered from the reigning champs syndrome - it is hard to win back to back leagues especially when you are in a club that hasn't got a winning culture and we as a club haven't won back to back titles since the 1930s As for the rest, can you honestly include the likes of us, the scum, the victims and everton as genuine contenders ?
That basically left manure a golden chance to win the league and they grabbed it mainly on the back of our former captain's goals However, in my opinion, to suggest that all league champions are automatically a good team is dumb and suggests an inability to look beyond the headlines. They were and are still a poor poor team but they were a team that knew how to win leagues and they were a team that played under a manager that wanted to win every single match and knew how to hairdryer his players to reach their targets. Now they have a manager that hasn't earned his stripes yet and doesn't command the respect and fear from their players in the same way old ferguscum did and they are suffering the inevitable slump as a result None of this changes the fact that they were the worst league champions in the last 20 years (I would rate the Blackburn league winning team as a better team) so regardless of what they won or didn't win, they are still a shit team that are now in an awful mess quality wise

[LeftfootlegendGooner]

TC is spot on, without writing 5000 words (without paragraphs ) Moyes has been shocking, if fergie was there now they would be within a point or to off top, if not top.

Edit, just looked you have put a paragraph in there

[northbank123]

Schalke say no Arsenal bid - bid was from Wolfsburg.

Apparently we can't compete with Wolfsburg now..

And that comment about 'if we had three more days' is priceless' - that's why you sign em as soon as the window opens you numpty.

At the risk of sounding like Arsene where on earth are Wolfsburg getting this money from? Apparently paying huge bucks to Gustavo, horrendously overpaid for de Bruyne and now tabling a bid for a player that the club wouldn't dream of selling for less than £30m. For a team that finished 11th in Germany last year and are currently 6th they sure are throwing the cash about.

You know they're part of Volkswagen?

I didn't, suppose because I've never noticed them throwing round cash before so never thought to question it.

I'm a bit sick of everybody putting German football up on a pedestal tbh - the fans, the way the clubs are owned/run, ticket prices, atmosphere, the way they nurture players etc. Also I remember my brother playing a fantasy football game that pisses all over the ones here, more like the American system. Ahh well as long as companies like Bayer and VW are involved with the ownership can always give them a prod about the Third Reich

[Leyton Gooner]

Schalke say no Arsenal bid - bid was from Wolfsburg.

Apparently we can't compete with Wolfsburg now..

And that comment about 'if we had three more days' is priceless' - that's why you sign em as soon as the window opens you numpty.

At the risk of sounding like Arsene where on earth are Wolfsburg getting this money from? Apparently paying huge bucks to Gustavo, horrendously overpaid for de Bruyne and now tabling a bid for a player that the club wouldn't dream of selling for less than £30m. For a team that finished 11th in Germany last year and are currently 6th they sure are throwing the cash about.

You know they're part of Volkswagen?

I didn't, suppose because I've never noticed them throwing round cash before so never thought to question it.

I'm a bit sick of everybody putting German football up on a pedestal tbh - the fans, the way the clubs are owned/run, ticket prices, atmosphere, the way they nurture players etc. Also I remember my brother playing a fantasy football game that pisses all over the ones here, more like the American system. Ahh well as long as companies like Bayer and VW are involved with the ownership can always give them a prod about the Third Reich

The fans do my head in tbh. Palace style happy clappy shite

Ticket prices no different really. Only the "ultras" get access to cheap standing tickets which I suppose is fair enough as they're the hardcore

[clockender1]

Schalke say no Arsenal bid - bid was from Wolfsburg.

Apparently we can't compete with Wolfsburg now..

And that comment about 'if we had three more days' is priceless' - that's why you sign em as soon as the window opens you numpty.

At the risk of sounding like Arsene where on earth are Wolfsburg getting this money from? Apparently paying huge bucks to Gustavo, horrendously overpaid for de Bruyne and now tabling a bid for a player that the club wouldn't dream of selling for less than £30m. For a team that finished 11th in Germany last year and are currently 6th they sure are throwing the cash about.

18 million from Per a few seasons back, also sold us Hleb didn't they ? - bundesliga champs in 2009, sold dzeko to city for silly money and have a squad made up mainly of german players - and we just nicked their assistant coach to head our youth development nursery didn't we ?

i'm going to guess that they develop talent well and sell it on having married it up with a big name or two...

[LDB]

Schalke say no Arsenal bid - bid was from Wolfsburg.

Apparently we can't compete with Wolfsburg now..

And that comment about 'if we had three more days' is priceless' - that's why you sign em as soon as the window opens you numpty.

At the risk of sounding like Arsene where on earth are Wolfsburg getting this money from? Apparently paying huge bucks to Gustavo, horrendously overpaid for de Bruyne and now tabling a bid for a player that the club wouldn't dream of selling for less than £30m. For a team that finished 11th in Germany last year and are currently 6th they sure are throwing the cash about.

18 million from Per a few seasons back, also sold us Hleb didn't they ? - bundesliga champs in 2009, sold dzeko to city for silly money and have a squad made up mainly of german players - and we just nicked their assistant coach to head our youth development nursery didn't we ?

i'm going to guess that they develop talent well and sell it on having married it up with a big name or two...

Fairly sure Per came from werder bremen for 8m

[northbank123]

Schalke say no Arsenal bid - bid was from Wolfsburg.

Apparently we can't compete with Wolfsburg now..

And that comment about 'if we had three more days' is priceless' - that's why you sign em as soon as the window opens you numpty.

At the risk of sounding like Arsene where on earth are Wolfsburg getting this money from? Apparently paying huge bucks to Gustavo, horrendously overpaid for de Bruyne and now tabling a bid for a player that the club wouldn't dream of selling for less than £30m. For a team that finished 11th in Germany last year and are currently 6th they sure are throwing the cash about.

18 million from Per a few seasons back, also sold us Hleb didn't they ? - bundesliga champs in 2009, sold dzeko to city for silly money and have a squad made up mainly of german players - and we just nicked their assistant coach to head our youth development nursery didn't we ?

i'm going to guess that they develop talent well and sell it on having married it up with a big name or two...

Fairly sure Per came from werder bremen for 8m

Hleb also came from Stuttgart but apart from that the players you mentioned made them a fortune

[clockender1]

I sit corrected then. They are obviously funded and therefore we can't compete - even though our ground is twice the size of theirs and we charge the highest ticket prices in Europe....


Anyway shocking comment from that crunt John Terry after tonight's game - " we had a couple of good days working on their strengths and weaknesses on the training pitch this week"

Unbelievable.

Thats cheating isn't it ???

Bloody city, the chavs might win it now !

[g88ner]

Schalke say no Arsenal bid - bid was from Wolfsburg.

Apparently we can't compete with Wolfsburg now..

And that comment about 'if we had three more days' is priceless' - that's why you sign em as soon as the window opens you numpty.

At the risk of sounding like Arsene where on earth are Wolfsburg getting this money from? Apparently paying huge bucks to Gustavo, horrendously overpaid for de Bruyne and now tabling a bid for a player that the club wouldn't dream of selling for less than £30m. For a team that finished 11th in Germany last year and are currently 6th they sure are throwing the cash about.

18 million from Per a few seasons back, also sold us Hleb didn't they ? - bundesliga champs in 2009, sold dzeko to city for silly money and have a squad made up mainly of german players - and we just nicked their assistant coach to head our youth development nursery didn't we ?

i'm going to guess that they develop talent well and sell it on having married it up with a big name or two...

Fairly sure Per came from werder bremen for 8m

Hleb also came from Stuttgart but apart from that the players you mentioned made them a fortune

Yeah, but in fairness Wolfsburg did get £42m when they sold us Ozil and £80m when we signed Lehmann from them. And of course, they made a small fortune when they took over catering at the Grove. Ain't that right, clockender