The Mesut Özil Thread

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spendsum4uckingmoney wrote:
wibble wrote:Agree that we needed strengthening in other departments before buying another midfielder but to write off Ozil just now is ridiculous.
Answer this honestly. What exactly does Ozil excell in? What does he do that only he can do?

Is he the best passer in the team? Nope
Does he create the most chances? Nope
Is he the best player with both feet? Nope
Is he the best goalscorer in midfield? Nope

I don't see anything in this guy. He's average.
He's got a better than average first touch, technique and passing ability. I think he'll end up being a very good player for us.

He has been poor the last few games and his body language and price tag probably don't help fans perceptions of him but think he'll find form soon enough

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Ozil is a top drawer player, that is indisputable, so a drop in form isn't something that should be a worry,"the old class is permanent blah blah blah"
What is a worry and again is indisputable, is his whole demeanour, he looks basically "fucked off". As others have mentioned I don't think we were ever on his list of clubs to play for.
Now whether it''s a matter of him realising he doesn't want to be here, realising having played under the likes of mourinho and low, that wenger is a buffoon or simply showing his frustration with his own form, we simply don't know.
He doesn't however seem to have formed an affiliation with the clubs fans and looks at times "mercenary"
What is certain is that wenger can't afford to drop him, certainly not over the coming weeks, not with so many big games coming up.
If I had to put my money where my mouth was, I would bet on a summer of unrest surrounding Ozil. I don't think he is happy at Arsenal and don't think he will be content to do an Arshavin, ie just go through the motions and collect his wages, simply because he is too good a player and suitors will be lining up for his services.

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goonersid wrote:Ozil is a top drawer player, that is indisputable, so a drop in form isn't something that should be a worry,"the old class is permanent blah blah blah"
What is a worry and again is indisputable, is his whole demeanour, he looks basically "fucked off". As others have mentioned I don't think we were ever on his list of clubs to play for.
Now whether it''s a matter of him realising he doesn't want to be here, realising having played under the likes of mourinho and low, that wenger is a buffoon or simply showing his frustration with his own form, we simply don't know.
He doesn't however seem to have formed an affiliation with the clubs fans and looks at times "mercenary"
What is certain is that wenger can't afford to drop him, certainly not over the coming weeks, not with so many big games coming up.
If I had to put my money where my mouth was, I would bet on a summer of unrest surrounding Ozil. I don't think he is happy at Arsenal and don't think he will be content to do an Arshavin, ie just go through the motions and collect his wages whilst drowning his sorrows in Burger King, KFC and McDonalds, simply because he is too good a player and suitors will be lining up for his services.
Fixed that a bit for ya, mate! :lol: :wink:

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We got nothing from Ozil on Saturday and not much in the games prior to that, second half at St Mary's was an improvement. At the risk of repeating my comments on two previous threads , buying quality players is one thing..getting the very best out of them on a consistent basis is the harder part. The tendency for football fans to go all "Tabloid" and call him a failure is the same thinking that had us league title contenders on Friday and hopeless failures by 3pm Saturday. It has to be black or white, brilliant or brutal. Ozil is a World class player, he is not showing that since the beginning of the Christmas fixtures. But ask the question..Ozil or Gervinho ? I pick Ozil over the swerve. I think it would be counter-productive to the team and the player to drop him. It may be a short term solution, but in a way the manager has to impress on the player thta we have paid a fucking fortune for him and we want a return on the pitch starting tonight. Offer him that or a hiding place on the bench...no brainer I think.

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He will come good.

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His body language has been poor for a while now but of course I got lambasted when I first suggested it back then :roll:

I still believe that, if he wants to be in our club, he will come good and come good big time (and no I'm not talking cum) - the old "form is fleeting but class is permanent" saying springs to mind. However it does concern me that to get the best out of him, we will require a more tactically savvy manager and a pacy quality striker because sadly I dont see either of them arriving at our club anytime soon

Re tonights game I believe it will be either ozil or podolski that will start (not both) - I do understand the theory of sticking with him to build him confidence etc, but the fact is that he isnt in form and podolski deserves a chance imo 8) The articles above suggested that wenger will stick with ozil tonight and I fear that will be the final nail in the coffin of podolski's time with us :(

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augie wrote:His body language has been poor for a while now but of course I got lambasted when I first suggested it back then :roll:
And you're gonna get lambasted again because it's bollocks :wink: 8)

His body language was no different at Real. The problem is that without Theo's pace or Ramsey getting involved in attacks there is just not the space for him to exploit.

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LDB wrote:
augie wrote:His body language has been poor for a while now but of course I got lambasted when I first suggested it back then :roll:
And you're gonna get lambasted again because it's bollocks :wink: 8)

His body language was no different at Real. The problem is that without Theo's pace or Ramsey getting involved in attacks there is just not the space for him to exploit.


My days wouldnt be complete without getting lambasted on here at least once :lol: :barscarf:

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augie wrote:
LDB wrote:
augie wrote:His body language has been poor for a while now but of course I got lambasted when I first suggested it back then :roll:
And you're gonna get lambasted again because it's bollocks :wink: 8)

His body language was no different at Real. The problem is that without Theo's pace or Ramsey getting involved in attacks there is just not the space for him to exploit.


My days wouldnt be complete without getting lambasted on here at least once :lol: :barscarf:
Twice :blah: :box: :cussing: :lol:

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I want for Ozil to succeed I really do. I just don't think he is as good as his reputation. There is a reason why Madrid let him go. There was also a reason Mourinho bought Modric. He just isnt world class not even close.

If we can get 32m for him I say go for it. Hell maybe Madrid would take him back. Didn't Ancelotti say he regretted letting him go?

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If Ozil doesn't turn in a performance tonight after being attacked by all fronts at the weekend he never will. Huge test of character tonight.

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Nice to see Wenger has 'coached' Özil's talent out of him :barscarf:

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augie wrote:
LDB wrote:
augie wrote:His body language has been poor for a while now but of course I got lambasted when I first suggested it back then :roll:
And you're gonna get lambasted again because it's bollocks :wink: 8)

His body language was no different at Real. The problem is that without Theo's pace or Ramsey getting involved in attacks there is just not the space for him to exploit.


My days wouldnt be complete without getting lambasted on here at least once :lol: :barscarf:
You culchies and this obsession you have with goat molesting and lamb "basting", the culchie version of dogging. :roll: :x

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