THE WENGER THREAD

[g88ner]

Agreed. I don't believe that stat from Clockender for a second. Completely made up.

Edit: he's not even top at Arsenal... Chesney is. Where was that stat from Clockender?

Here's another FACT: did you know that Stompy the Elephant played the Cello in the Vienna Orchestra between 1912-1914 as their regular Cellist was on safari in Africa True. Sadly Stompy died in the war

http://www.iol.co.za/sport/soccer/premi ... -1.1645091

Giroud has played more minutes in the ECL and PL combined than any other outfield player. FACT

and in any case, the idea that he's been overplayed due to lack of support is still valid isn't it ?

It is valid. Agreed

It's ridiculous that he's the only option we have to lead the line. It's negligent and... well... bonkers.

[clockender1]

Agreed. I don't believe that stat from Clockender for a second. Completely made up.

Edit: he's not even top at Arsenal... Chesney is. Where was that stat from Clockender?

Here's another FACT: did you know that Stompy the Elephant played the Cello in the Vienna Orchestra between 1912-1914 as their regular Cellist was on safari in Africa True. Sadly Stompy died in the war

http://www.iol.co.za/sport/soccer/premi ... -1.1645091

Giroud has played more minutes in the ECL and PL combined than any other outfield player. FACT

and in any case, the idea that he's been overplayed due to lack of support is still valid isn't it ?

It is valid. Agreed

It's ridiculous that he's the only option we have to lead the line. It's negligent and... well... bonkers.

and its not just one year - but four. FOUR.

this is why i get so irate about le Professor not learning. he just doesn't !

[Theoperator]

I followed arsenal in the 70s and 80s and from 73 to 87 it wasn't pretty believe me. And hopefully I am around to follow Arsenal for many more years and that alone entitles me to moan when I am not happy with what is happening to the club I love. This does not elevate me or any others to the status of superfan or our longevity does not make us better fans than our younger counterparts. But the main point here is I moaned and was unhappy with the dross and relegation battles of the mid 70s and I moan about what is a criminal neglect of care and duty by our current manager. He was a great manager and he brought new ideas and freshness to Arsenal and to football, but football caught up and Wenger stood still. We craved new signings to compete with the new superpowers of Chelsea and city. we got a world class player in the Summer and on Saturday we got nothing from him, and from the manager we got flapping of arms for a non existent foul when Liverpool were scoring yet another goal.
Signing players is half the job, getting the best out of them all the time is the second part of it and maybe the hardest. Our manager is not capable of doing that. Chelsea's second string side would not capitulate the way we did on Saturday. Not because they have better players but because they have a better manager.
My opinion on our manager is that Arsenal will always go so far but ultimately fail as long as Wenger is manager. Neither the club or the manager himself will ever change that scenario. I regretfully say that for as long as Arsene Wenger wants to stay he will stay and nothing will change .
Judge my comments in May, and I genuinely hope that I am wrong.

Spot on post- Have to say that the way AW just sat moaning or face screwed up as we were routed over 20 minutes will stay with me for ages, it was all unfair to him, first goal offside third Ozil pushed etc etc etc etc- just chuntered and didnt get off his butt and LEAD- Yell cajole swap players around bring back the line subsitute- not one thing- nothing at all.

Can anyone on here or anyone anywhere defend that?

[mcdowell42]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/ ... ss-3135469

[TheTourist]

Spot on post- Have to say that the way AW just sat moaning or face screwed up as we were routed over 20 minutes will stay with me for ages, it was all unfair to him, first goal offside third Ozil pushed etc etc etc etc- just chuntered and didnt get off his butt and LEAD- Yell cajole swap players around bring back the line subsitute- not one thing- nothing at all.

Can anyone on here or anyone anywhere defend that?

The most important fact to defend is that it's the first time something like this happens for a while (8-2). Even at the Etihad we were able to cause some trouble. It's a big deception yes, but this team does not deserve to be judged on a single bad performance, after convincing wins against other good teams this season (including the Reds).

Unfortunately, if you look at the goals you describe, you will see it's not just bad luck, it's an organization failure. The manager and the players got it wrong. For example, why was Özil caught in possession ? Look at this picture, and you will see he didn't have so many choices. Even if you replay the scene one or two seconds earlier, the situation is the same: the only realistic solution is Kos', with the Sturridge danger covering.
This situation occurred a million times during the first quarter, as we were completely unable to cope with Liverpool's pressing.

Let's hope Moyes does not know anything about pressing

[g88ner]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/ ... ss-3135469

Pretty well summed up really

Good article

[QuartzGooner]

All you need to do is look at Le Forehead, Vela and even Chamakh now enjoying their football at other clubs to realize that the Wenger of today , is the problem.

It's not how they are doing at their tinpot clubs/in their Mickey Mouse league that's the damning indictment on Wenger - none of them were ever good enough to make it at the top level, not even nearly - the sorry story is the length they were at the club whilst we were crying out for a quality forward instead.

Roma and Serie A are hardly tinpot Quartz - to be fair to forehead, he was consistently played out of position and a lot of pressure put on him to perform as a CF

What have I go to do with all this?

Or are you referring to this mining enterprise?

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/87942780

[Herd]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/ ... ss-3135469

for once a decent article that sums things up quite well

[augie]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/ ... ss-3135469

Pretty well summed up really

Good article

Yeah it is quite balanced for a change because holt is usually one of the journ's sucking wenker's cock I still fail to understand how no journo will point to the unused cash reserves as a reason for the fans anger

[goonertux]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/ ... ss-3135469

for once a decent article that sums things up quite well

Agreed, and anyone know the tart in the mittens?

[clockender1]

All you need to do is look at Le Forehead, Vela and even Chamakh now enjoying their football at other clubs to realize that the Wenger of today , is the problem.

It's not how they are doing at their tinpot clubs/in their Mickey Mouse league that's the damning indictment on Wenger - none of them were ever good enough to make it at the top level, not even nearly - the sorry story is the length they were at the club whilst we were crying out for a quality forward instead.

Roma and Serie A are hardly tinpot Quartz - to be fair to forehead, he was consistently played out of position and a lot of pressure put on him to perform as a CF

What have I go to do with all this?



Or are you referring to this mining enterprise?

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/87942780

lol sorry mate - i misread the author - was talking to northbank.

carry on.

[clockender1]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/ ... ss-3135469

for once a decent article that sums things up quite well

Agreed, and anyone know the tart in the mittens?

i dunno - but that Silje Norendal on the right would be smoking if she had boobs

[Bendtners Drinking Buddy]

There is some irony in fans / press banging on about spending more money as our record signing is also getting stick to be fair!

[northbank123]

There is some irony in fans / press banging on about spending more money as our record signing is also getting stick to be fair!

Wenger for years has crusaded against spending more for the sake of it, he should need to be told least of anyone that if you're going to refuse to spend serious money for years and then dish out £42m in one go that it better make a massive difference to the team.

[clockender1]

There is some irony in fans / press banging on about spending more money as our record signing is also getting stick to be fair!

if he had signed 3 or 4, it wouldn't be an issue - some players are always going to be off form, sick, injured etc. thats why you have a squad,

i'm also pretty sure that if you took a straw poll of top managers, very few wouldnt rotate Cazorla and Ozil and would instead try to fit them both in the same team every week like our Idiot does.