Arsene Wenger is a 'SPECIALIST IN FAILURE- Jose Mourinho

[kiwomya]

If the club's actual aim was to win the league every season then Wenger wouldn't still be in charge.

[spendsum4uckingmoney]

TBF blame has to go to the awful scouts. Was it Keown/Adams who convinced AW not to sign Bale? Then of course there was the Cole 55k a week travesty. There has and still is incompetency all around the club. I blame:

The board,
AW,
The scouts,
The physios,
pretty much everyone in administration is to blame for the 10 years.

I would never point the finger and say "it's all him". Everyone takes blame IMO.

[markyp]

his best response will be to make sure we beat Chelsea next month at the Bridge and make sure that Mourinho has a season of failure himself

fookin hilarious,BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[northbank123]

I'm certainly no Wenger sympathiser, quite the opposite with every passing game as it happens. And following our new found financial footing, failure to invest heavily in the squad now carries no defence.

But to try and compare Arsenal v Chelsea in the period 2005-2012 and not consider the different financial positions of the clubs is ignorant and stupid if trying to make a serious argument. Mourinho was not only thrown a bottomless transfer kitty when he arrived in 2004 but Chelsea had the market to themselves. The Arabs, PSG, Monaco etc were not on the scene. By contrast, not only did Arsenal not have that bottomless pit they went in the opposite direction and had to pay for the stadium move. Whatever lines we were spun by the Board at the time about the immediate benefits of leaving Highbury, it is fact. Chelsea could and did spend like mad and buy the best players in the world, we were on a shoe string by comparison and had to sell the best players in the world.

Had Mourinho been at Arsenal 2005 - 2012 would he had have won the same number of trophies as he has at Chelsea? No. Would he have won more than Wenger? Possibly. Probably. But the point is Arsenal v Chelsea in that 7/8 year period was not an even playing field so it's a stupid comparison.

But all that said, Wenger can no longer spin the money line. He no longer has that excuse.

And I also agree that this silly verbal jousting is all manufactured by the press and the egos of the managers is too big not to walk into the trap.

Trev the crux of your post isn't wrong - it's not a level playing field. Even if Wenger wasn't so hung up thinking he's a financial expert (HE REALLY ISN'T) we couldn't have thrown round money to exactly the same extent as Chelsea.

But we're not talking about comparing 1 trophy to 0, or 8 to 6 or whatever. We are talking about 9 years now and the only trophy we've really got near winning was a Mickey Mouse Cup that we lost against a relegated side.

And level playing field or not, we SHOULD be comparing ourselves to the best - and Chelsea have been there or thereabouts for a decade now so it's not a stupid comparison (even if you place some caveats on it).

Not that we need a comparison to know that for a club of our stature and resources we have hugely underperformed. No amount of money that Chavs or Citeh or whoever have will ever excuse Wenger's bizarre decisions on and off the pitch. Or explain why despite all the moneybags complaints we haven't finished above United since 2005.

[I Hate Hleb]

his best response will be to make sure we beat Chelsea next month at the Bridge and make sure that Mourinho has a season of failure himself

fookin hilarious,BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

He is right though. Perhaps the chances of that happening aren't great but the point itself is a good one, although he should have added 'and to make sure Arsenal won something this season'.

[Bendtners Drinking Buddy]

If your worried what that C**t says - he has won.

Its easy winning titles when you have $80m $90m to spend.

Wenger is a man of values and integrity - we can all disagree and debate any point of Arsenal, but you cannot deny that what that man has overseen in his time at the club is nothing short of phenomenal. Has he stayed too long? Could he have done better? All point s for debate.

Has he been good for Arsenal football club? Does he want the best for the club? Not even in question - the man deserves the respect of very single Arsenal fan no matter how you see the future of our club.

Where were Chelsea before Roman? Would Jose have gone to Chelsea if they had been in a postion like Arsenals in 1996?

We could all win the premier league as a manager with hundreds of millions to spend every year.

[I Hate Hleb]

I'm certainly no Wenger sympathiser, quite the opposite with every passing game as it happens. And following our new found financial footing, failure to invest heavily in the squad now carries no defence.

But to try and compare Arsenal v Chelsea in the period 2005-2012 and not consider the different financial positions of the clubs is ignorant and stupid if trying to make a serious argument. Mourinho was not only thrown a bottomless transfer kitty when he arrived in 2004 but Chelsea had the market to themselves. The Arabs, PSG, Monaco etc were not on the scene. By contrast, not only did Arsenal not have that bottomless pit they went in the opposite direction and had to pay for the stadium move. Whatever lines we were spun by the Board at the time about the immediate benefits of leaving Highbury, it is fact. Chelsea could and did spend like mad and buy the best players in the world, we were on a shoe string by comparison and had to sell the best players in the world.

Had Mourinho been at Arsenal 2005 - 2012 would he had have won the same number of trophies as he has at Chelsea? No. Would he have won more than Wenger? Possibly. Probably. But the point is Arsenal v Chelsea in that 7/8 year period was not an even playing field so it's a stupid comparison.

But all that said, Wenger can no longer spin the money line. He no longer has that excuse.

And I also agree that this silly verbal jousting is all manufactured by the press and the egos of the managers is too big not to walk into the trap.

Trev the crux of your post isn't wrong - it's not a level playing field. Even if Wenger wasn't so hung up thinking he's a financial expert (HE REALLY ISN'T) we couldn't have thrown round money to exactly the same extent as Chelsea.

But we're not talking about comparing 1 trophy to 0, or 8 to 6 or whatever. We are talking about 9 years now and the only trophy we've really got near winning was a Mickey Mouse Cup that we lost against a relegated side.

And level playing field or not, we SHOULD be comparing ourselves to the best - and Chelsea have been there or thereabouts for a decade now so it's not a stupid comparison (even if you place some caveats on it).

Not that we need a comparison to know that for a club of our stature and resources we have hugely underperformed. No amount of money that Chavs or Citeh or whoever have will ever excuse Wenger's bizarre decisions on and off the pitch. Or explain why despite all the moneybags complaints we haven't finished above United since 2005.

Spot on northbank.

[clockender1]

We just reported that we have £120 million cash in the bank - and yet we have Bentdner on the bench.

That says it all about Wenger.

[Perryashburtongroves]

Wanker has failed so many times at so many things that the only thing he does seem to do well is failure. Maureen may well be a mouthy *word censored* but he's proven time and again to be a winner and that after all is what the game is all about.

[spendsum4uckingmoney]

If your worried what that C**t says - he has won.

Its easy winning titles when you have $80m $90m to spend.

Wenger is a man of values and integrity - we can all disagree and debate any point of Arsenal, but you cannot deny that what that man has overseen in his time at the club is nothing short of phenomenal. Has he stayed too long? Could he have done better? All point s for debate.

Has he been good for Arsenal football club? Does he want the best for the club? Not even in question - the man deserves the respect of very single Arsenal fan no matter how you see the future of our club.

Where were Chelsea before Roman? Would Jose have gone to Chelsea if they had been in a postion like Arsenals in 1996?

We could all win the premier league as a manager with hundreds of millions to spend every year.

I had sympathy for the guy up to January 2008 when we signed jack shit. We collapsed.

Some might say holding to CL football during the era of Abram was a huge accomplishment and the move to the stadium. i wouldn't disagree but I would point out in 2005/06 we only finished 4th because of some dodgy lasagne. What the hell would have happened if we had not? Yes we got CL footy and I was stunned that Liverpool dropped out, but you can overstate the achievement. Spurs have been far better run in recent years, and just got unlucky.

AW signings just haven't been good enough.

[VoiceOfReason]

If the club's actual aim was to win the league every season then Wenger wouldn't still be in charge.

Did the club ever consult the fans about this 'not wanting to win the league' thing? Because I'm pretty sure I may have missed it.

[Supagoon]

I grossly dislike Jose, His personality is one I actually hate, having said that he has a great understanding of other people.

He is certainly right about Arsene, he is a specialist in failure.

Failed to respond to changing financial climate in football.
Failed to implement a socialist wage structure in squad. (thank goodness)
Failure to improve tactical methods as others adapt.
Failure to convince arsenal fans trophies don't matter.

We know Arsene can easily dismiss those not worthy of his intellect, but he knows Jose is right.

I don't hate Arsene far from it, but manipulating people is something I really hate.

[northbank123]

We just reported that we have £120 million cash in the bank - and yet we have Bentdner on the bench.

That says it all about Wenger.

Would be great if we spent the money on class players and in exchange put Bendtner in a bank vault and destroyed all the keys/passwords/penis recognition technology/whatever they use these days.

[Perryashburtongroves]

If the club's actual aim was to win the league every season then Wenger wouldn't still be in charge.

Did the club ever consult the fans about this 'not wanting to win the league' thing? Because I'm pretty sure I may have missed it.

If they did, I assume they must have been the same people that were 'consulted' over the new badge 10 years ago.

[trustno10]

This is coming from a manager who had the most expensive player and squad ever assembled at his disposal yet could win only 1 trophy over 3 years in a two team league. Not to mention his last spell at Chelsea ended as soon as Roman told him to limit his spending (he could still spend more than everyone else, but just not so much) and he struggled to get them out of the CL group stages. Now he has returned to Chelsea solely because predecessors have invested in an expensive youthful squad where he does not have to concern himself with spending limits, FFP or major overhauls. The man is a hypocrite of the highest order.