THE WENGER THREAD

[QuartzGooner]

The substitution of The Ox instead of Ozil or Sanogo seems to be contentious but I did not have a problem with it.
We had one sub left to make, and all three of The Ox, Ozil and Sanogo were tired.
So it is Hobson's Choice.
The Ox has not long been back from injury, and I have a hunch that Ozil and Sanogo will be rested against Sunderland, so I can see why The Ox was subbed.

[Herd]

Quartz man Ozil wasn't tired ,he hadn't done enough to work up a sweat in fact, just at the end he tried a burst through and seemed to have gallons in the tank ! ! ! !

OX may have been a little tired but Yaya was dead on his feet , all of our problems came down the other side so to swap like for like or side for side wasn't going to change much,we needed to plug the gap 0-1 is retrievable ,we didn't they scored again ,and in the words of the lovely Beth Gibbons " Its all over " !

Bit unfair to blame flamini as he ran his butt off but technically yes he dropped off for goal 1 and was trying to fill in for the inexplicably absent Kos who went on an african head charge run !

The worse thing now is that wenger will go and chase the game with a full squad in the return leg which means he will bin the Everton match , and having failed to win by 3 in Munich which will be like trying to climb Everest with a toothpick some vicks sinex in a one-sy ,we will then be vulnerable for the next 3 games in the league which if not managed well could leave us in 5th place or worse !

Give me the pills and vodka me N beth are going for a lie down https://www.youtube.com/results?search_ ... video&sm=1

[TeeCee]

Bad bad management always kills Arsenal. Time and time again puzzling decisions show this man does not have a clue what he is doing in a match situation. He may be great on the training pitch but Arsene Wonga really does not have a clue.
Good grief!!

[LDB]

Quartz man Ozil wasn't tired ,he hadn't done enough to work up a sweat in fact, just at the end he tried a burst through and seemed to have gallons in the tank ! ! ! !

According to the stats he ran the third highest distance of any player on the pitch, behind Flamini and Wilshere. I had a link to it last night but I can't find it anymore.

He's not a fucking leftback though, I fully agree.

[Herd]

Oh and while I'm at it I thought at the time robben had his foot so high he should have been pulled for dangerous play ,not to mention he wouldn't have got the ball ! Pass the sour grapes alice !

[Gunner Rob]

im just getting weary with it all - its the same old same old, season after season.

Wenger will probably be delighted that Ches got a red card - he can now use that as an excuse.
It nicely deflects criticism away from him about starting Sanogo. Ok Sanogo did ok but he really should not be thrown into a match of this magnitude.

who would have thought that Giroud would now be tired after playing up front on his own all season?
it really is negligence of the highest order from Wenger that he did not bring in a top striker either last summer or in January.

for the first time ever before a big CL game last night I really could not give a shit about the match as I knew there was absolutely no way we could beat the germans over 2 legs.
it is all about the FA Cup this season for me now - I just hope Wenger sees it like that too

[DB10GOONER]

Quartz man Ozil wasn't tired ,he hadn't done enough to work up a sweat in fact, just at the end he tried a burst through and seemed to have gallons in the tank ! ! ! !

According to the stats he ran the third highest distance of any player on the pitch, behind Flamini and Wilshere. I had a link to it last night but I can't find it anymore.

He's not a fucking leftback though, I fully agree.

Which just goes to show (YET AGAIN!! ) how pointlessly shit stats are. Not having a pop at you here LBD, but if someone looked at those stats and thought "wow Ozil ran THAT much, he must have contributed so much to the team", they'd be very wrong. Ozil contribute sweet fuck all last night.

[LDB]

Quartz man Ozil wasn't tired ,he hadn't done enough to work up a sweat in fact, just at the end he tried a burst through and seemed to have gallons in the tank ! ! ! !

According to the stats he ran the third highest distance of any player on the pitch, behind Flamini and Wilshere. I had a link to it last night but I can't find it anymore.

He's not a fucking leftback though, I fully agree.

Which just goes to show (YET AGAIN!! ) how pointlessly shit stats are. Not having a pop at you here LBD, but if someone looked at those stats and thought "wow Ozil ran THAT much, he must have contributed so much to the team", they'd be very wrong. Ozil contribute sweet fuck all last night.

Didn't doubt that he had a poor game, but I do doubt this nonsense about him being lazy. He should have been subbed instead of the ox though because as an auxillary left back Ozil is about as much use as a chocolate teapot.

[goonersid]

Last night yet again showing why Wenger needs to go, Bayern were there for the taking, yet Pod and Giroud on bench and the postman up front, fucking insane. Go down to 10 men and defending for our lives, but Ozil stays on the pitch.
All goes to prove any "success" we are having in the league, fa cup and qualifying for clge is in despite this incompetent fool and not because of him.
We are in a Moyes / Martinez / Fergie situation, where Everton were all along a better team than Moyes could make of them, and Utd are now half the team they were.
Makes you wonder just how good we could actually be, if this bastard was to fucking do one.

[Clash]

Last night yet again showing why Wenger needs to go, Bayern were there for the taking, yet Pod and Giroud on bench and the postman up front, fucking insane. Go down to 10 men and defending for our lives, but Ozil stays on the pitch.
All goes to prove any "success" we are having in the league, fa cup and qualifying for clge is in despite this incompetent fool and not because of him.
We are in a Moyes / Martinez / Fergie situation, where Everton were all along a better team than Moyes could make of them, and Utd are now half the team they were.

Makes you wonder just how good we could actually be, if this bastard was to fucking do one.

If Wenger had left 5 years ago I am sure we would have won some trophies in the years that followed. The Emirates years have been wasted years and its looks like we're about to waste 3 more.

And yet rather than see Wenger as a hindrance who is holding the club back, there is still this widespread belief that without Wenger we would have been worse off. He is lauded for steering us through a transitional period when it was him that created a transitional period. Firstly by breaking up a great team far too early and then choosing to try to develop a team which is a slow process, made even slower when you sell your best players to clubs you are supposed to be competing against.

[remigardeshair]

Quartz man Ozil wasn't tired ,he hadn't done enough to work up a sweat in fact, just at the end he tried a burst through and seemed to have gallons in the tank ! ! ! !

According to the stats he ran the third highest distance of any player on the pitch, behind Flamini and Wilshere. I had a link to it last night but I can't find it anymore.

He's not a fucking leftback though, I fully agree.

Which just goes to show (YET AGAIN!! ) how pointlessly shit stats are. Not having a pop at you here LBD, but if someone looked at those stats and thought "wow Ozil ran THAT much, he must have contributed so much to the team", they'd be very wrong. Ozil contribute sweet fuck all last night.

Indeed, strolling half heartedly back into ones own half whilst the player you are meant to be marking is at the byeline with the ball still counts as 'distance' as far as the stats go.

[clockender1]

I still don't get the logic behind last nights selection - we all know for Wenger that it was his biggest game if the season, and that Giroud is his #1 choice, so why not rest your main man in the two games before it then play him in the 'big' game.

Was the 0-0 against united more important than the Bayern game for Wenger ?

Then you have Gnabry & rosicky - both on good runs of form, both dropped.

With the weakness on the left why pick Caz again knowing that lahm, Goetze and Robben would target Gibbs ?

It's almost like Wenger didn't make a win a priority.

Very odd IMHO.

[Gunner Rob]

I still don't get the logic behind last nights selection - we all know for Wenger that it was his biggest game if the season, and that Giroud is his #1 choice, so why not rest your main man in the two games before it then play him in the 'big' game.

Was the 0-0 against united more important than the Bayern game for Wenger ?

Then you have Gnabry & rosicky - both on good runs of form, both dropped.

With the weakness on the left why pick Caz again knowing that lahm, Goetze and Robben would target Gibbs ?

It's almost like Wenger didn't make a win a priority.

Very odd IMHO.

Wenger makes out that it is very important to do well in the CL but in reality he and the club are only bothered about reaching the knock out stage. To advance any further would require extra investment in the team.

if it was more important for Wenger he would have made sure that we didnt finish 2nd in the group (we only had to avoid a 2-0 defeat in the last group game) the reality is that he is more bothered about finishing in the top 4 in the league so we can do the whole circus again than progressing in the CL. To reach the top 4 it is easier if he doesnt have too many european games cluttering the calendar.

this con has been going on for several years now - one reason why I refuse to go to any category A european games

[Almunia is a clown]

As mentioned by Herd & others, some of Wengers team selections & tactical decisions are baffling.

As someone once said , it's like an egotistical maniac dictator moving non existing armies around in his bunker during his last days in power

Wenger doesn't do obvious & seems more clueless with each passing season!!!!

[Theoperator]

I still don't get the logic behind last nights selection - we all know for Wenger that it was his biggest game if the season, and that Giroud is his #1 choice, so why not rest your main man in the two games before it then play him in the 'big' game.

Was the 0-0 against united more important than the Bayern game for Wenger ?

Then you have Gnabry & rosicky - both on good runs of form, both dropped.

With the weakness on the left why pick Caz again knowing that lahm, Goetze and Robben would target Gibbs ?

It's almost like Wenger didn't make a win a priority.

Very odd IMHO.

Giroud wasnt on the bench was he- seems he was dropped/ disciplined or whatever for the hotel romp.

Gnabry and TR7 are hardly on much of a run at all, TR7 broke his nose 4 weeks ago, on the bench for Fulham & Palace. He was pretty poor V MAnure- kept passing to them. Gnabry has only had 5 starts in the PL- not enough to say in or out of form