THE WENGER THREAD

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I'm still wondering why he's not formally announced his new contract.

Because it's not been signed yet!! :barscarf: :barscarf: :barscarf: :barscarf: :barscarf:

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TeeCee wrote:
I'm still wondering why he's not formally announced his new contract.

Because it's not been signed yet!! :barscarf: :barscarf: :barscarf: :barscarf: :barscarf:
And won't be 8)

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oh it will be :lol:

just after we secure 4th place with a dramatic win at Norwich City :wink:

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Gunner Rob wrote:couldnt agree more.

in fact it was for this reason that until 18 months ago I still actually was in favour of Wenger being kept on because his successor will most likely be even worse.

the warning is clearly there from Manchester United
I disagree - i think we're the complete opposite - Wenger is a good scout of talent still, and we have a decent squad. The problem is that Wenger has no idea how to Manage them , or the clubs assets.

a team of :

----------Chesney----------
Sagna - Kos - Per - Gibbs
Walcott - Ramsey - Flamini - Rosicky
------------Ozil-------------
------------Pod/Giroud------

would be about ten points clear by now, given our defensive stability and the poor away from of the chavs and city.

and you have ox, TV, Caz and gnabry as good back ups.

but a) Wenger won't pick that team until forced, and b) our injury record is appalling - at any one time we have DOUBLE the amount of injuries as any other top 4 side.

Its the main reason i'm so anti-wenger - he is being very highly paid to fritter away our clubs great wealth and talent with out of date tactics, training and fitness management.

if a good manager like Pep or Klopp came in this summer, i'd put money on us seriously challenging for all three major trophies next season.

let us not forget that with no financial constraints this year, we dropped FIVE points to the worst united side in 20 odd years.

our only constraint is the manager.

if anyone thinks otherwise then they are obviously drinking the Arsene PLC Kool-aid....

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clockender1 wrote:
Gunner Rob wrote:couldnt agree more.

in fact it was for this reason that until 18 months ago I still actually was in favour of Wenger being kept on because his successor will most likely be even worse.

the warning is clearly there from Manchester United
I disagree - i think we're the complete opposite - Wenger is a good scout of talent still, and we have a decent squad. The problem is that Wenger has no idea how to Manage them , or the clubs assets.

a team of :

----------Chesney----------
Sagna - Kos - Per - Gibbs
Walcott - Ramsey - Flamini - Rosicky
------------Ozil-------------
------------Pod/Giroud------

would be about ten points clear by now, given our defensive stability and the poor away from of the chavs and city.

and you have ox, TV, Caz and gnabry as good back ups.

but a) Wenger won't pick that team until forced, and b) our injury record is appalling - at any one time we have DOUBLE the amount of injuries as any other top 4 side.

Its the main reason i'm so anti-wenger - he is being very highly paid to fritter away our clubs great wealth and talent with out of date tactics, training and fitness management.

if a good manager like Pep or Klopp came in this summer, i'd put money on us seriously challenging for all three major trophies next season.

let us not forget that with no financial constraints this year, we dropped FIVE points to the worst united side in 20 odd years.

our only constraint is the manager.

if anyone thinks otherwise then they are obviously drinking the Arsene PLC Kool-aid....
Couldn't agree more Clockender1

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10 points clear clockender, really??? When was the last time a team won the league with such poor striking options, never mind cantered to it by mid-Feb?

Our defence has been by and large brilliant this year and we have midfield talent and diversity but nowhere near enough to suggest that our squad should be 10 points clear at the top.

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northbank123 wrote:10 points clear clockender, really??? When was the last time a team won the league with such poor striking options, never mind cantered to it by mid-Feb?

Our defence has been by and large brilliant this year and we have midfield talent and diversity but nowhere near enough to suggest that our squad should be 10 points clear at the top.
yeah, thats my rough calculation - add the five points we should of got off united, at least 2 off the chavs and 3 off villa, another two off southampton, take out the one we got off the chavs and we would be 10 points clear of the chavs.

our striking options may be poor but look at the points the chavs have dropped (west ham FFS) and City.

weren't we 5 points clear before drawing with t

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northbank123 wrote:10 points clear clockender, really??? When was the last time a team won the league with such poor striking options, never mind cantered to it by mid-Feb?

Our defence has been by and large brilliant this year and we have midfield talent and diversity but nowhere near enough to suggest that our squad should be 10 points clear at the top.
yeah, thats my rough calculation - add the five points we should of got off united, at least 2 off the chavs and 3 off villa, another two off southampton, take out the one we got off the chavs and we would be 10 points clear of the chavs.

our striking options may be poor but look at the points the chavs have dropped (west ham FFS) and City.

weren't we 5 points clear before drawing with t

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10 points clear with Giroud upfront :lol: :lol: :lol:

Not even Fergie and Cloughie rolled together would manage that.

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clockender1 wrote:
northbank123 wrote:10 points clear clockender, really??? When was the last time a team won the league with such poor striking options, never mind cantered to it by mid-Feb?

Our defence has been by and large brilliant this year and we have midfield talent and diversity but nowhere near enough to suggest that our squad should be 10 points clear at the top.
yeah, thats my rough calculation - add the five points we should of got off united, at least 2 off the chavs and 3 off villa, another two off southampton, take out the one we got off the chavs and we would be 10 points clear of the chavs.

our striking options may be poor but look at the points the chavs have dropped (west ham FFS) and City.

weren't we 5 points clear before drawing with t
We SHOULD in theory beat every team outside the top 7 home and away and then in the remaining 6 home games win probably 4 and draw 2 and take probably at least 9 points away from home in those games - if you consider all the games individually. But then we'd end up with 100 points.

Mark Lawrenson's predictions are a prime example of that, he's predicted City to win 75 of 81 points so far because they should win pretty much every game in theory but of course they were never going to get 105 points.

Our form in the big games has been woeful but equally we have done brilliantly to beat the small teams consistently this year - far better than we could have realistically expected given our league position despite bottling big games. This team is about where it should be, 10 points clear with our paucity of striking options is a bit of a fantasy.

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and next season our striking options will be further enhanced by the addition of a world class striker who has massively impressed AW, one Joel Campbell. :rubchin:

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Papers reporting that Wenger might yet walk away at the end of the season. interesting

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http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/ ... al-3194857

Arsenal have reportedly put plans to unveil boss Arsene Wenger's new contract on hold.

The Gunners wanted to reveal the contract at the Frenchman's 1,000th match in charge later this month.

But according to The Sun, Emirates insiders have become increasingly concerned by Wenger's refusal to commit himself to the £160,000-a-week contract agreed in principle last year.

Chief executive Ivan Gazidis said in January: "Arsene will be extending with us and, at the right time, we will announce that."

Yet behind the scenes, there are said to be growing fears that Britain's longest-serving manager could yet walk away when his current deal expires at the end of the season.

Wenger, 64, has always maintained he will only sign a new deal when he is certain his team can win honours again.

He was enraged by Jose Mourinho's "specialist in failure" jibe and knows those accusations will be hurled at him once more if Arsenal fail to end their nine-year trophy drought after topping the Premier League table for four months.

The Frenchman joined in October 1996 and his 1,000th match will be at Chelsea on March 22 - unless Arsenal draw next week's FA Cup tie, in which case it will be at Goodison Park on March 18 or 19.



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Really trying not to get my hopes up too much. I'd be staggered if his ego let him just walk away. If he was concerned about not winning trophies he'd have walked years ago. Still, could it really happen?..... :?

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Have we not all but secured the top 4 trophy already? Is that not Wengers be all and end all anymore since Jose highlighted that not winning anything is failure? :rubchin:

For Wenger its not about trophys, its not even about money I reckon.
Its all about the ego.

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