The Yaya Sanogo lack of Progress Thread

[Nick Bendtners Ego]

Think there is a strong element of surprise and relief wafting around at the minute. Surprise in the sense that he doesn't look as shit as we all expected and relief that whilst he's far from the striker dilemma we needed answering by the end of the last window to see us continue to compete if we are serious about a trophy, at least he remains some what of another option other than the Danish donut up front. Still, big call Wenger throwing him into a CL debut in a game of that magnitude, could have broke him but who knows, could be the making of him in years to come. Judge him in May if he gets enough game time

In the mean time we sacrifice yet another Champions League campaign in the name of player development.

General consensus seems to be " he not complete shit" well hooray for that eh, in 2/3 years he may develop enough to be a viable option but not right now, when it will cost us goals / points / trophies.

We are not good enough to be able to carry players - we could when we had a squad full of world class players
take the odd gamble with Wreh etc (but he was our 4th choice striker not our 2nd choice)

Agree with you.

Time may be on his side but not so this team and probably Wenger's in the quest for a trophy. The exposure of his not complete shitness tempered with the future possibility of a decent player waiting to get out is scant consolation for a season that we could but most unlikely be rewriting the footballing books. Only winner this season could be Wengers ego and his capture and blooding of an unknown that he may 'make a star' as opposed to 'buying that star' according to his philosophy,that a Higuain , Costa, Suarez etc would have offered us against the Germans and the league run in.

[armchair]

Thats it.
Wake me up Yaya Sanogo is a prime and current example of how Wenger has lost us points/trophys for years now.

By not strengthening where we need it (in this case a proven striker, but previously keeper, DM, CB's at various times) Wenger has wilfully thrown away points and chances of trophys in favour of his vanity project. His ego. His attempt at being 'the knowing one'. His stubborn holier than thou insistance of trying to stick two fingers up at the free-spending Chelsea and City while happily dirtying his hands by dealing with them and selling them our players.

Add this to his failure to motivate, his bizarre pre-arranged subs, his lack of effective tactics, his inability to change a game, his rigid team formation played against every team we play, his failure to study the opposition, his medical teams obvious flaws, his total shambolic transfer windows.......

And you've got a manager who is, just, well... not gonna win anything.

Sadly, Sanogo is not very good. Yes hes big, strong, puts in a shift etc but I'm afraid hes the next Gervinho. We'll all be dreading him starting soon.

Sanogo is a typical Wenger signing and says quite a lot about our manager.

[1989]

“When you look at his stature, he is a similar shape to Giroud but you feel there is a lot more to come out with him".

Dig at Giroud from Wenger.

[TeeCee]

Wonga wants to play 'make the star' all the time so he can receive all the plaudits when a player makes it big. If you think Barry Benders got a big ego, he has nothing on Wonga!! This is the exact reason why Arsenal will never win anything again under Wonga, his ego and personal crusade will ALWAYS get in the way of real progress.

[robbo10]

How the hell did we get to be playing Sanogo in only his second start for the club against the best side in the world??

Because Arsene knows......

[augie]

“When you look at his stature, he is a similar shape to Giroud but you feel there is a lot more to come out with him".

Dig at Giroud from Wenger.

Selective interpretation there buddy........don't you think that it is possible that he is saying that there is a lot more to come out of wakemeup in comparison to his current showings and that he wasn't comparing that part to giroud ? Anyway he compared him to giroud in stature not ability and I don't think a manager that plays half a team of midgets, values stature very highly anyway

[g88ner]

“When you look at his stature, he is a similar shape to Giroud but you feel there is a lot more to come out with him".

Dig at Giroud from Wenger.

Selective interpretation there buddy........don't you think that it is possible that he is saying that there is a lot more to come out of wakemeup in comparison to his current showings and that he wasn't comparing that part to giroud ?

You're right Augie - I think it's obvious that is what Wenger meant. 1989's interpretation is just, well, bizarre.

In fact, 1989s interpretation just goes to show why it's impossible for celebrities to talk to the press... because no matter what they say and no matter how innocently they say it, there's always someone who spins it into something else entirely

[arseofacrow]

“When you look at his stature, he is a similar shape to Giroud but you feel there is a lot more to come out with him".

Dig at Giroud from Wenger.

Selective interpretation there buddy........don't you think that it is possible that he is saying that there is a lot more to come out of wakemeup in comparison to his current showings and that he wasn't comparing that part to giroud ?

You're right Augie - I think it's obvious that is what Wenger meant. 1989's interpretation is just, well, bizarre.

In fact, 1989s interpretation just goes to show why it's impossible for celebrities to talk to the press... because no matter what they say and no matter how innocently they say it, there's always someone who spins it into something else entirely

You'd know how that feels, wouldn't you mate!

[clockender1]

Yaya is evidence that the project never really went away - Giroud and pod were just place holding cards.

[1989]

“When you look at his stature, he is a similar shape to Giroud but you feel there is a lot more to come out with him".

Dig at Giroud from Wenger.

Selective interpretation there buddy........don't you think that it is possible that he is saying that there is a lot more to come out of wakemeup in comparison to his current showings and that he wasn't comparing that part to giroud ?

You're right Augie - I think it's obvious that is what Wenger meant. 1989's interpretation is just, well, bizarre.

In fact, 1989s interpretation just goes to show why it's impossible for celebrities to talk to the press... because no matter what they say and no matter how innocently they say it, there's always someone who spins it into something else entirely

I just don't like Giroud.

[goonersid]

Possibly the worst player ever to play in the plge, wouldn't make the Fulham squad. An absolute fucking disgrace that this useless wanker is an Arsenal player.

[SteveO 35]

I actually physically laughed when he ballooned that one over the bar at the end. Poor lad, he's got two left feet and one of those has been put on back to front. Somewhere out there a Parcelforce depot is missing its prodigal son

[g88ner]

I actually physically laughed when he ballooned that one over the bar at the end. Poor lad, he's got two left feet and one of those has been put on back to front. Somewhere out there a Parcelforce depot is missing its prodigal son

Welcome back

[northbank123]

We might as well play Dwain Chambers up front if we're going to be impressed by somebody charging around like a bull in a china shop. I have honestly never seen a PL football with such little basic footballing ability.

Every pass to him yesterday was hilariously miscontrolled and his touch makes Gervinho look like the African Bergkamp. He's taken more air shots in about 200 minutes of football than most players manage in a career. For the chance yesterday he was leaning backwards at about a 45 degree angle.

The only thing he offers is a decoy as unlike Giroud he's actually willing to look in behind and stretch defences, and a couple of times a season he might miscontrol a ball into the path of a team-mate to score. But doesn't change the fact he should be practising dribbling between cones and similar fundamental exercises with the U7s.

[robbo10]

We might as well play Dwain Chambers up front if we're going to be impressed by somebody charging around like a bull in a china shop. I have honestly never seen a PL football with such little basic footballing ability.

Every pass to him yesterday was hilariously miscontrolled and his touch makes Gervinho look like the African Bergkamp. He's taken more air shots in about 200 minutes of football than most players manage in a career. For the chance yesterday he was leaning backwards at about a 45 degree angle.

The only thing he offers is a decoy as unlike Giroud he's actually willing to look in behind and stretch defences, and a couple of times a season he might miscontrol a ball into the path of a team-mate to score. But doesn't change the fact he should be practising dribbling between cones and similar fundamental exercises with the U7s.

I think having watched, and played football at a decent level,you can tell the technique of a player and how they actually kick or control a ball,and to be fair with this bloke,I just don't see anything from him,even the most basic trapping of the ball he cannot seem to do,he is rushed and clumsy,his feet seem all wrong,his body shape is wrong,he seems to panic at a 5 yard pass,maybe he looks fucking amazing in training but I just cannot see this bloke progressing.