THE WENGER THREAD

[spendsum4uckingmoney]

It's frightening how many of my predictions have come true

Ozil is a flop,
that by the end of the season "we will be wanting AW out",
that this season would be a repeat of the 2007/08, with no signings being our downfall

[robbo10]

For as long as Arsene Wenger is manager of Arsenal we will flatter to deceive, end up trophy less, get led into believing false hope and promises and end up frustrated. How can people no longer see this ? Arsene Wenger has not got the wit or the will to change Arsenal and Arsenal PLC have not got the will to change him. To finish fourth is better than third because it gives an extra game the following season at The Emirates.

To be honest BWK,I think a lot of people who are realistic about Arsenal now don't allow themselves false hope,hand on heart I KNEW we wouldn't win anything again this year and I'm sure I'm not alone.

[g88ner]

For as long as Arsene Wenger is manager of Arsenal we will flatter to deceive, end up trophy less, get led into believing false hope and promises and end up frustrated. How can people no longer see this ? Arsene Wenger has not got the wit or the will to change Arsenal and Arsenal PLC have not got the will to change him. To finish fourth is better than third because it gives an extra game the following season at The Emirates.

To be honest BWK,I think a lot of people who are realistic about Arsenal now don't allow themselves false hope,hand on heart I KNEW we wouldn't win anything again this year and I'm sure I'm not alone.

I genuinely don't know anyone who really thought we'd win the league. You just try and be as optimistic and supportive as you can. After all, that's what fans do.

Doesn't mean we don't see the problems - we just hope for a happy surprise. I still hope, but certainly don't expect.

Maybe there are some fans who think we're better than chavs or Citeh - or maybe even Bayern, but I'm lucky enough not to share a mental ward with them, so I don't have to speak to these people.

[SteveO 35]

For as long as Arsene Wenger is manager of Arsenal we will flatter to deceive, end up trophy less, get led into believing false hope and promises and end up frustrated. How can people no longer see this ? Arsene Wenger has not got the wit or the will to change Arsenal and Arsenal PLC have not got the will to change him. To finish fourth is better than third because it gives an extra game the following season at The Emirates.

To be honest BWK,I think a lot of people who are realistic about Arsenal now don't allow themselves false hope,hand on heart I KNEW we wouldn't win anything again this year and I'm sure I'm not alone.

I genuinely don't know anyone who really thought we'd win the league. You just try and be as optimistic and supportive as you can. After all, that's what fans do.

Doesn't mean we don't see the problems - we just hope for a happy surprise. I still hope, but certainly don't expect.

Maybe there are some fans who think we're better than chavs or Citeh - or maybe even Bayern, but I'm lucky enough not to share a mental ward with them, so I don't have to speak to these people.

I'll introduce you to my old man.........then you won't be able to say that again

[LDB]

For as long as Arsene Wenger is manager of Arsenal we will flatter to deceive, end up trophy less, get led into believing false hope and promises and end up frustrated. How can people no longer see this ? Arsene Wenger has not got the wit or the will to change Arsenal and Arsenal PLC have not got the will to change him. To finish fourth is better than third because it gives an extra game the following season at The Emirates.

To be honest BWK,I think a lot of people who are realistic about Arsenal now don't allow themselves false hope,hand on heart I KNEW we wouldn't win anything again this year and I'm sure I'm not alone.

I genuinely don't know anyone who really thought we'd win the league. You just try and be as optimistic and supportive as you can. After all, that's what fans do.

Doesn't mean we don't see the problems - we just hope for a happy surprise. I still hope, but certainly don't expect.

Maybe there are some fans who think we're better than chavs or Citeh - or maybe even Bayern, but I'm lucky enough not to share a mental ward with them, so I don't have to speak to these people.

Spot on. I've never once thought we'd win the league but I didn't see the point in the relentless negativity when we were doing well and on top of the league. I think it's important that the players and manager know that their performance at Stoke was nowhere near the required standard. However, I hope we fans create a strong positive atmosphere for the big games to come and not just go completely flat if something doesn't go our way in those games like the Ozil penalty vs Bayern. It's not over yet but we're going to need to seriously break our duck in those games.

I am becoming more and more convinced though that this could be Wenger's last season if we don't win a trophy, especially if the WOB army becomes suitably large and noisy. There is no obvious explanation as to why he hasn't signed a new contract yet unless he's holding out to see how this season ends.

Interestingly on 5live the other night they had a scouser, city, chav and gooner fan on and the only fan to be convinced that their team would win it was the scouser . Although even better was that the Arsenal fan was from RedAction and when the host asked him about Wenger he went into full blown AKB mode (might have even been Cook off here?). I was praying he'd ask him about Usmanov to send augie and steveO over the edge

[SteveO 35]

The atmosphere will be cracking for the Everton game LDB, don't worry about that mate. The games against the Scummers and the Mickeys created great atmospheres - why? Playing big clubs in a straight knockout format - can't be beaten no matter what any wanker at UEFA might want to say to the contrary.

The cup finally seems to mean something to the 60,000 bowl visitors and so it should. If we won it and finished 3rd I would genuinely say progress has been made.

Fuck it up, finish 4th and go out to Bayern then there's no progress from the previous year - one round further in the FA, one fewer in the League Cup, same position in league and same boring last 16 knockout in the snoozeathon

[officepest]

I dread the day that I hear the news of Wenger's contract renewal.

[SteveO 35]

I dread the day that I hear the news of Wenger's contract renewal.

True, but I also dread the day that I hear Gazidis is tasked with finding his replacement. You just know that the choice will be 99% Wenger's.......so what's better, 3 more years of Wenger, or watching Slimey and Wiggy consult with the Self Harmer to find the new Wenger Lite model

[scotgooner]

I dread the day that I hear the news of Wenger's contract renewal.

True, but I also dread the day that I hear Gazidis is tasked with finding his replacement. You just know that the choice will be 99% Wenger's.......so what's better, 3 more years of Wenger, or watching Slimey and Wiggy consult with the Self Harmer to find the new Wenger Lite model

Both options are largely depressing

[officepest]

I dread the day that I hear the news of Wenger's contract renewal.

True, but I also dread the day that I hear Gazidis is tasked with finding his replacement. You just know that the choice will be 99% Wenger's.......so what's better, 3 more years of Wenger, or watching Slimey and Wiggy consult with the Self Harmer to find the new Wenger Lite model

Fair point, just look at the fucking shambles at Utd ( ) after Lord Fergal of Fergus anointed the hapless wee Davey.

[SteveO 35]

I dread the day that I hear the news of Wenger's contract renewal.

True, but I also dread the day that I hear Gazidis is tasked with finding his replacement. You just know that the choice will be 99% Wenger's.......so what's better, 3 more years of Wenger, or watching Slimey and Wiggy consult with the Self Harmer to find the new Wenger Lite model

Fair point, just look at the fucking shambles at Utd ( ) after Lord Fergal of Fergus anointed the hapless wee Davey.

I can see Wenger coming on to the pitch in May 2017 after we've secured another glorious 4th placed trophy asking us to get behind our new man Stojkovic, who he hopes will continue the VT dynasty for another decade

[LDB]

I dread the day that I hear the news of Wenger's contract renewal.

True, but I also dread the day that I hear Gazidis is tasked with finding his replacement. You just know that the choice will be 99% Wenger's.......so what's better, 3 more years of Wenger, or watching Slimey and Wiggy consult with the Self Harmer to find the new Wenger Lite model

That depends if he retires or moves on. I can see him managing some former-great-turned-shit side in Italy like Inter.

[officepest]

I dread the day that I hear the news of Wenger's contract renewal.

True, but I also dread the day that I hear Gazidis is tasked with finding his replacement. You just know that the choice will be 99% Wenger's.......so what's better, 3 more years of Wenger, or watching Slimey and Wiggy consult with the Self Harmer to find the new Wenger Lite model

Fair point, just look at the fucking shambles at Utd ( ) after Lord Fergal of Fergus anointed the hapless wee Davey.

I can see Wenger coming on to the pitch in May 2017 after we've secured another glorious 4th placed trophy asking us to get behind our new man Stojkovic, who he hopes will continue the VT dynasty for another decade

But we'll be cash rich, positively swimming in filhty lucre and our self (harm) sustaining model will be the envy of Europe.

[armchair]

I think we had every right to be 'realistic' considering what Wengers Arsenal had served us up for years.
Rather than 'relentless negativity' I seen people attempting to keep their feet on the ground and not get too carried away in the face of wild optimism and #flipflopping.

After a good half a season some people decided forget the previous years of failure and preach about being negative and object to the Wenger criticism.

It is possible to support the Arsenal while vehemently and aggressively wanting rid of the manager.
Its a very difficult and not a very nice position to hold but Wenger supporters and #flipfloppers need to realise that it is a valid opinion to have

[SteveO 35]

I dread the day that I hear the news of Wenger's contract renewal.

True, but I also dread the day that I hear Gazidis is tasked with finding his replacement. You just know that the choice will be 99% Wenger's.......so what's better, 3 more years of Wenger, or watching Slimey and Wiggy consult with the Self Harmer to find the new Wenger Lite model

That depends if he retires or moves on. I can see him managing some former-great-turned-shit side in Italy like Inter.

I think he'll be consulted in the final year before he retires. Gazidis hangs off his every word