THE WENGER THREAD

[northbank123]

Yep anybody thinking that Wenger is in any way playing for his next contract is sadly deluded. The only man deciding his future is him.

[augie]

IF he wins the FA cup are there any posters on here that would then be happy when he signs the new improved 3 year contract

No.

[DB10GOONER]

IF he wins the FA cup are there any posters on here that would then be happy when he signs the new improved 3 year contract

No. Obviously I hope we win the cup, but I hope Arsene might take that as a nice high to retire on. I know he won't, but I hope all the same. Would be nice to see him go out a winner. I don't hate him the way a few on here do. I love him and respect him for what he achieved between 97-06 and I'll always respect him for winning whilst playing the best football any Ingerlish club side has ever played.

But I also want him gone more than any Arsenal manager in my 43+ years of supporting the club. We should have won the PL in 2008 and we didn't purely because Arsene could not be pragmatic and could not see past his poxy failed project. We should have won the PL this season and won't because Arsene has repeated the same errors of not strengthening the squad sufficiently year after year.

An FA Cup win is not enough at this stage. The repeated failures have proven that he has had his time, he is past his sell by date and we should be looking to progress under new management.

[Ed Hunter The Gooner]

IF he wins the FA cup are there any posters on here that would then be happy when he signs the new improved 3 year contract

No.

We don't need to worry about this as he isn't going anywhere. We can't get rid of him until he dies as he is going to most probably step upstairs to the board. Knowing his ego, what are the chances that the new manager will get freedom needed to do his job so that this old fuck doesn't interfere on every thing going on? What are the chances that we even get top class manager because of Wenkers ego? What are the chances that our transfer policy would change? Obviously there would be a massive "war chest", but only in Wenkers desk's top drawer.

It's quite frightening scenario indeed...

[Ed Hunter The Gooner]

I don't know who this Matthew Stanger is, but his winners and losers column regarding Wenker and Arsenal in Football365 is quite good one.

"Where were we? Ah yes, Arsene Wenger and his habit of doing just enough. It seems almost pointless to write the following paragraphs - given that we've heard it all before and the frhiskeys are beginning to take effect - but let's all hold hands one last time and think about Arsenal's second, third and fourth-choice strikers totalling just six goals between them in the Premier League and Champions League this season.

It may seem unforgivable that Wenger failed to strengthen Arsenal's squad in January when the Gunners were still fighting on three fronts, but the groundwork for the campaign petering out was laid in the summer. After the excitement of Mesut Ozil's arrival had died down, the embers of Wenger's transfer policy showed that not enough had been done. Nicklas Bendtner's move to Crystal Palace was cancelled at the 11th hour while Yaya Sanogo was packed off to France on an intensive training regime. Arsenal were going to need every available body if they were to maintain any sort of momentum in the title race.

Predictably, it hasn't been enough. Injuries have taken their toll - as they always do - exposing a lack of squad depth that the world and his dog acknowledged back in September. Desperate Gooners might hang to the hope that Arsenal are only seven points behind Chelsea with a game in hand, but can they really be expected to close that gap with the current injury list and a brittle mentality that has seen them pick up just nine points in eight matches against the rest of the top seven? With Spurs, Chelsea and Everton away to come - along with City at home - the gap to the eventual title winners is likely to increase.

The patchwork side that was sent out on Tuesday gave it their best shot in the toughest of tests, but all too often we have seen Arsenal fall valiantly short, with Wenger then performing his martyr's trick. The manager's reaction to the Gunners' exit was nothing short of pathetic. Arjen Robben might have trouble staying on his feet at times, but his penalties in the first and second leg were both won fairly. Wenger has clearly forgotten the sort of bastardry that can make the difference at this level. Would he expect one of his own players to stay on their feet?

It will be interesting to see the effect the manager's victim mentality has on his team. Was Wenger's 'woe is me' act better than graciously accepting that Bayern are the better team and Arsenal simply couldn't match them, but still provided a spirited performance? Wojciech Szczesny was dismissed in the first leg because he denied a clear goalscoring opportunity - because Arsenal couldn't defend Bayern's attack in the manner required. It wasn't an arbitrary test to see how the Gunners would cope with ten men.

An FA Cup semi-final against Wigan is something - something very fortunate given that it could have been Manchester City. But the last six weeks have taught us that Arsenal are still a long way from challenging the elite. They were hammered by Liverpool, humbled by Stoke and couldn't get past Manchester United in their weakest hour. In the Champions League, their best efforts against Bayern fell some way short. This has been a season of improvement at the Emirates, but that does not mean that the post-mortem should be in any way less scathing".

[remigardeshair]

We have a 4th choice striker?

[rodders999]

9 years I've waited for a trophy, 9 bloody years and if he signs a new contarct the day after we (hopefully) win it then the goodness will be gone out of it for me. Typical

[Clash]

IF he wins the FA cup are there any posters on here that would then be happy when he signs the new improved 3 year contract

No.

We don't need to worry about this as he isn't going anywhere. We can't get rid of him until he dies ...

Don’t be so sure that even when he dies we are rid of him mate. This is a scenario that frightens me:

Think of how Jor-El appears as a holographic image to Superman in the Fortress of Solitude. His words of wisdom contained for eternity in historic crystals . Now imagine the Royal Oak suite at The Emirates being used this same way. Future managers made to go there for guidance from a long deceased Wenger.





I am afraid that Wenger will live on forever!

[Ed Hunter The Gooner]

IF he wins the FA cup are there any posters on here that would then be happy when he signs the new improved 3 year contract

No.

We don't need to worry about this as he isn't going anywhere. We can't get rid of him until he dies ...

Don’t be so sure that even when he dies we are rid of him mate. This is a scenario that frightens me:

Think of how Jor-El appears as a holographic image to Superman in the Fortress of Solitude. His words of wisdom contained for eternity in historic crystals . Now imagine the Royal Oak suite at The Emirates being used this same way. Future managers made to go there for guidance from a long deceased Wenger.





I am afraid that Wenger will live on forever!

[clockender1]

9 years I've waited for a trophy, 9 bloody years and if he signs a new contarct the day after we (hopefully) win it then the goodness will be gone out of it for me. Typical

yep.

suddenly the 'not important as the "BE aLL and END" cup' becomes his justification for success ?

As i said in August, one expected year doesn't make up for 9 years of stagnant crap, and so he had to win the CL or PL to earn ONE more year.

[ananus]

9 years I've waited for a trophy, 9 bloody years and if he signs a new contarct the day after we (hopefully) win it then the goodness will be gone out of it for me. Typical

What if he signs a day before we go out of the cup?

[g88ner]

IF he wins the FA cup are there any posters on here that would then be happy when he signs the new improved 3 year contract

No.

We don't need to worry about this as he isn't going anywhere. We can't get rid of him until he dies ...

Don’t be so sure that even when he dies we are rid of him mate. This is a scenario that frightens me:

Think of how Jor-El appears as a holographic image to Superman in the Fortress of Solitude. His words of wisdom contained for eternity in historic crystals . Now imagine the Royal Oak suite at The Emirates being used this same way. Future managers made to go there for guidance from a long deceased Wenger.





I am afraid that Wenger will live on forever!

Very good clash But scary

[armchair]

9 years I've waited for a trophy, 9 bloody years and if he signs a new contarct the day after we (hopefully) win it then the goodness will be gone out of it for me. Typical

yep.

suddenly the 'not important as the "BE aLL and END" cup' becomes his justification for success ?

As i said in August, one expected year doesn't make up for 9 years of stagnant crap, and so he had to win the CL or PL to earn ONE more year.

Its kinda contradictory isnt it?
The FA cup that Wenger has treated with such contempt and sacraficed in previous seasons suddenly becomes the reason to justify a new bumper contract or gives him the chance to step down "with dignity and his legacy intact"

Bit of twisted logic for me

[SteveO 35]

9 years I've waited for a trophy, 9 bloody years and if he signs a new contarct the day after we (hopefully) win it then the goodness will be gone out of it for me. Typical

yep.

suddenly the 'not important as the "BE aLL and END" cup' becomes his justification for success ?

As i said in August, one expected year doesn't make up for 9 years of stagnant crap, and so he had to win the CL or PL to earn ONE more year.

Its kinda contradictory isnt it?
The FA cup that Wenger has treated with such contempt and sacraficed in previous seasons suddenly becomes the reason to justify a new bumper contract or gives him the chance to step down "with dignity and his legacy intact"

Bit of twisted logic for me

Was the same in 2011 when the expected League Cup success was heralded as the start of a new era, yet when we give it up every year we hear "top players ask do you play in the Champions League, not did you win the League Cup"

Anyway, beat Spurs and top 4 is virtually assured and the rest is immaterial

[Swifty]

In January I thought we had made some forward steps but now I'm sadly prepared to say we are no better off than the last 5 or 6 years. Despite my faith of prior years I now accept Wenger is incapable of getting us to a Premiership title (forget trophys - the title is the benchmark ). I am more than happy to risk a few steps back to make the required few steps forward - ie those steps that cannot be made with Wenger. I'd rather we had a go than stayed safe.
Time is up Arsene, thanks.
We ARE that team that the top sides don't rate - we've all seen it ourselves playing I'm sure - playing in a top 2 side knowing there is that 3rd or 4th place side that keeps nicking points from lowly teams but never gives you any concern. That is Arsenal circa 2014.