THE WENGER THREAD

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One more game and then the contract gets signed !

Might have to get myself into Block 2 for the Swansea game for the love-in

ONE ARSENE WENGER......THERE'S ONLY ONE ARSENE WENGER

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Dont forget we had Ramsey, Walcot, wilshire, Ozil missing today, oh and Diaby. We still have a chance to win the prem and FA cup, don't write Wenger off just yet. :barscarf:

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afcforever wrote:Dont forget we had Ramsey, Walcot, wilshire, Ozil missing today, oh and Diaby. We still have a chance to win the prem and FA cup, don't write Wenger off just yet. :barscarf:
But where's the new contract ????!!!!

I'm getting more and more impatient

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SteveO 35 wrote:
afcforever wrote:Dont forget we had Ramsey, Walcot, wilshire, Ozil missing today, oh and Diaby. We still have a chance to win the prem and FA cup, don't write Wenger off just yet. :barscarf:
But where's the new contract ????!!!!

I'm getting more and more impatient
Personally I wouldn't give him a new contract, but I do love BBQ :D

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On the pitch signing just before the Swansea game to celebrate his 1000th game at Chavski. Plenty of BBQ material in block 2 SteveO.

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clockender1 wrote:liverpool took 6 points off United this year - we took one, the least in the top nine joint with Southampton, who still have to play them at home...

for this we pay wenger 5million a year and are offering him a new contract.
Thanks for that mate, now I know it only matters what we do against man united. The other 36 games don't matter.

Mate, forget where we get the points because it dosn't matter. The fact is we're in a title race.

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topcat wrote:
clockender1 wrote:liverpool took 6 points off United this year - we took one, the least in the top nine joint with Southampton, who still have to play them at home...

for this we pay wenger 5million a year and are offering him a new contract.
Thanks for that mate, now I know it only matters what we do against man united. The other 36 games don't matter.

Mate, forget where we get the points because it dosn't matter. The fact is we're in a title race.
And we'd be 5 points better off in that title race if we'd beaten them :lol:

But seriously, although there is a tendency to get bogged down every single game and some people seemingly think we should drop no silly points all season, the United point is a valid one. It encapsulates why we are still nearly men - our lack of belief and tactical predictability/rigidity cost us dear against a side who we should have turned over twice and also saw a poor display against Chavs and dickings at Citeh and Liverpool.

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This is my last post - I do understand why most responses have not been in agreement with me, and today's result doesn't prove anything either way (except that you do need a bit of luck sometimes, and a decent striker would help too).

Just one final thing, if Wenger had left at the end of last season, I would bet that, for most, David Moyes would have represented a decent replacement, as he was always being praised for what he did at Everton. If he was first choice for Man Utd, then he'd probably have been at least considered at Arsenal. It isn't just hindsight, but it just shows that sometimes changing things doesn't work. I'd be interested to see suggestions for Wenger's potential replacement - I bet Martinez would now be up there.

My solution - the appointment of a Director of Football (or some other pretentious title) who had the board's authority, and who had direct influence over Wenger's transfer policies. A one-man transfer committee doesn't work. Wenger has proved over the years he can spot brilliant talent, so don't chuck that away - he just needs someone experienced to give him a kick up the posterior to go out and sign it. And what about Draxler - not sure he has been the superstar talked about in January. That maybe was £38m saved after all.

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Block93 wrote:This is my last post - I do understand why most responses have not been in agreement with me, and today's result doesn't prove anything either way (except that you do need a bit of luck sometimes, and a decent striker would help too).

Just one final thing, if Wenger had left at the end of last season, I would bet that, for most, David Moyes would have represented a decent replacement, as he was always being praised for what he did at Everton. If he was first choice for Man Utd, then he'd probably have been at least considered at Arsenal. It isn't just hindsight, but it just shows that sometimes changing things doesn't work. I'd be interested to see suggestions for Wenger's potential replacement - I bet Martinez would now be up there.

My solution - the appointment of a Director of Football (or some other pretentious title) who had the board's authority, and who had direct influence over Wenger's transfer policies. A one-man transfer committee doesn't work. Wenger has proved over the years he can spot brilliant talent, so don't chuck that away - he just needs someone experienced to give him a kick up the posterior to go out and sign it. And what about Draxler - not sure he has been the superstar talked about in January. That maybe was £38m saved after all.
Don't make that your last post, all peoples views are different. :barscarf:

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afcforever wrote:
Block93 wrote:This is my last post - I do understand why most responses have not been in agreement with me, and today's result doesn't prove anything either way (except that you do need a bit of luck sometimes, and a decent striker would help too).

Just one final thing, if Wenger had left at the end of last season, I would bet that, for most, David Moyes would have represented a decent replacement, as he was always being praised for what he did at Everton. If he was first choice for Man Utd, then he'd probably have been at least considered at Arsenal. It isn't just hindsight, but it just shows that sometimes changing things doesn't work. I'd be interested to see suggestions for Wenger's potential replacement - I bet Martinez would now be up there.

My solution - the appointment of a Director of Football (or some other pretentious title) who had the board's authority, and who had direct influence over Wenger's transfer policies. A one-man transfer committee doesn't work. Wenger has proved over the years he can spot brilliant talent, so don't chuck that away - he just needs someone experienced to give him a kick up the posterior to go out and sign it. And what about Draxler - not sure he has been the superstar talked about in January. That maybe was £38m saved after all.
Don't make that your last post, all peoples views are different. :barscarf:
Agree with afcforever - as long as you are espousing genuine views you should stick around unless you find it particularly unpleasant.

As for DoF role above Wenger - don't be ridiculous. I fully agree that his dictator-like control over the club is a big problem but he would never ever ever ever let it change.

I understand what you're saying about Moyes, and plenty on here have advocated him in the past. I personally didn't because he has never won the big games and despite an eye for a bargain he could never make that great signing (i.e. a striker) and that held Everton down (albeit to the level they could reasonably be expecting to achieve). Reality is given his frugal and steady nature he wouldn't have been an unlikely candidate for the board. Although when Wenger goes it'll be on his own terms and he will have a huge input on his successor. And is he more likely to recommend an experienced, high-profile win at all costs manager or somebody to continue his legacy in his shadow like Dragan Stojkovic?

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Today showed YET AGAIN what an outdated clueless cretin le cock really is :roll: I know that giroud was woeful today but nobody stank up the place as much as cazorla and yet he was left on :x With every passing minute we were conceding more possession and retreating deeper and yet to compound that, the wenker decides to bring on an extra 2 defenders so that we will encourage them to attack us even more :banghead: Thank god for BFG and kos because today we won in spite of wenker and not because of him :evil: :evil:

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Block93 wrote:
My solution - the appointment of a Director of Football (or some other pretentious title) who had the board's authority, and who had direct influence over Wenger's transfer policies. A one-man transfer committee doesn't work. Wenger has proved over the years he can spot brilliant talent, so don't chuck that away - he just needs someone experienced to give him a kick up the posterior to go out and sign it.l.
i don't think there's a single person here would disagree with that mate.

the problem as many have indicated is not just transfers - its the medical staff too, its persisting with poor performers (oh the irony), its the in game tactics, lack of flexibility. we're a bit past it.

I 100% believe that given the problems at Man U , the settling in at City and Chelsea, this was our year - as you said you can't expect to win it every year, but i think you should take your opportunities as they do come.

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northbank123 wrote:
topcat wrote:
clockender1 wrote:liverpool took 6 points off United this year - we took one, the least in the top nine joint with Southampton, who still have to play them at home...

for this we pay wenger 5million a year and are offering him a new contract.
Thanks for that mate, now I know it only matters what we do against man united. The other 36 games don't matter.

Mate, forget where we get the points because it dosn't matter. The fact is we're in a title race.
And we'd be 5 points better off in that title race if we'd beaten them :lol:

But seriously, although there is a tendency to get bogged down every single game and some people seemingly think we should drop no silly points all season, the United point is a valid one. l.
remind me - weren't we 5 points clear when we had united at home, or would have gone clear 5pts over the chavs ?

momentum is key, had we won we would of kept our momentum going AND put extra pressure on the chavs.

and don't get me wrong, it wasn't the loss of 2 points - it was that we really didn't try to go at them when their confidence and game was low.

sometimes i think you have to push home your advantage so that when the cock ups, sending offs, pens etc do happen youre still in contention.

FWIW i think its laughable that people are talking about us as now being back in the title race - we are 4 points behind the chavs with a game in hand and them up next to play. way to early imho.

if we win then we're back in and not before - a tame 0-0 will not do it either. but we reduce that gap to 1 point then fuck yeah, its a 3 way race and if we deny city with a draw or win, then its a 4 way.

it could be a mental finish couldn't it - 3 teams on the last day ? LOL

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zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz He's a twat we know it.

We win the FA CUP finish 4th and all is rosy !

I need to get back to the Pub but my boss showed up unexpectedly ,time to moody a outside meeting and head back to the boozer !

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Block93 wrote:This is my last post.
Opinions are like arse holes - everyone's got one! So no need to go away.

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