Chavski match thread.

[robbo10]

Mistaken identity for Gibbs so no ban & also the Ox supposed red card quashed so no ban there...

The FA do get it right sometimes i guess

Yeah, but now the ban has been transferred to Sagna as Marriner apparently says it was the other darkie one.

In the referee's defence, Gibbs and Ox are a similar colour... and fairly similar height and hair.... whereas Sagna is black with dreadlocks

Lucky Gnabry wasn't playing,Marriner would have been proper fucked.....

[g88ner]

Mistaken identity for Gibbs so no ban & also the Ox supposed red card quashed so no ban there...

The FA do get it right sometimes i guess

Yeah, but now the ban has been transferred to Sagna as Marriner apparently says it was the other darkie one.

In the referee's defence, Gibbs and Ox are a similar colour... and fairly similar height and hair.... whereas Sagna is black with dreadlocks

Lucky Gnabry wasn't playing,Marriner would have been proper fucked.....

[QuartzGooner]

Gibbs
Oxlade-Chamberlain (In goal of course)
Walcott
Gnabry
Hayden

Recall Coquelin from loan

Plus invite back specially for one game

Cole
Clichy
Traore
Ryan Smith
Ryan Garry

A whole first XI - Marriner's nightmare!

But seriously though, it seems that Marriner did not see the initial incident.
So someone else told him on his ear piece that Gibbs had handled the ball.
Who was that someone else?

The linesman or the fourth official?

[g88ner]

Gibbs
Oxlade-Chamberlain (In goal of course)
Walcott
Gnabry
Hayden

Recall Coquelin from loan

Plus invite back specially for one game

Cole
Clichy
Traore
Ryan Smith
Ryan Garry

A whole first XI - Marriner's nightmare!

Glad you avoided bringing back Denilson (I would have had to ban you )

[olgitgooner]

Well I was talking about the Chelsea game specifically. I didn't expect us to win there. But the fates conspired against us to produce a scoreline like that.

I also think the scorelines at City and Liverpool were very flattering to the opposition.

Not offering excuses for losing any of our games. We're just not good enough.

In fairness olgit, when you only play 4 big domestic away games in a season and you fail to score at manure (where poorer teams are actually winning ) and then you concede 6, 5 and 6 in the other games, you cannot describe it as a freak in any aspect. We played the same formation and used the same tactics in all those games and they didn't work before yesterday so how could we expect them to work yesterday ? We had enough experience of getting walloped away to the big teams to ensure that it wouldn't happen yesterday but yet it happened again so it was far from a freak result.

Whatever about the citeeh game, you cannot seriously argue that the victims result was very flattering to them - they cut through us at will and showed the clinical finishing that you would expect from a team challenging for trophies. None of the goals were lucky or freaky in any way and truth be told they actually eased up in the second half so if anything that result flattered us

Losing games like yesterday is not a shock. Getting thrashed in a game like yesterday is not a huge shock but getting thrashed like that 3 times in a season is totally unacceptable for any self respecting big club so perspective does and should go right out the window imo

My point is that unless there is a huge gap between the quality of two teams then you wouldn't expect more than a two goal difference at the final whistle. To lose by a three, four or six goal margin means that everything has gone right for one team. And everything has gone horribly wrong for the other team. Freak result.

I'm not trying to make excuses for our shite performances. Or for a manager who thinks tactics are a small box of mints.

[northbank123]

Quartz my initial reaction was that it was the fourth official. That was based on the fact that they seemed to take an absolute age to reach the decision. Although my stream commentary was awful (Jim Beglin ) and they were too busy showing replays to let us known what was happening.

I can't really fathom it. If either the ref or lino actually saw it it was an undoubted penalty and the only thing to do was identify the culprit. Which given Ox lay next to the post for 3-5 seconds before getting up and Gibbs was stood 5-10 yards away having gotten nowhere near blocking the shot, was hardly touch and go.

ALthough if the 4th official had given the decision with the use of the TV screen (I know it's not allowed but it wouldn't surprise me if it was used in a big game deviously) surely he couldn't have made that mistake. I imagine that they did a round of "Did you see it?"..."No. You?" on the mic before reaching the conclusion that given the appeals it must have been a pen and then just guessing it was the left-back.

As I said I have zero sympathy with the tosser because you simply cannot guess a decision like that and there's no way it would have happened if it was Chelsea at home to Hull or someone. Deservedly ended up looking like a right twat for being a coward. Just like earlier on this season when he gave the pen for the Ramires dive. In the same way they stopped giving United refs who gave big decisions against them, can they stop giving Chelsea a ref who lets the home players do his job for him?

[Perryashburtongroves]

Gibbs
Oxlade-Chamberlain (In goal of course)
Walcott
Gnabry
Hayden

Recall Coquelin from loan

Plus invite back specially for one game

Cole
Clichy
Traore
Ryan Smith
Ryan Garry

A whole first XI - Marriner's nightmare!

But seriously though, it seems that Marriner did not see the initial incident.
So someone else told him on his ear piece that Gibbs had handled the ball.
Who was that someone else?

The linesman or the fourth official?

Not that I'd actually want it to happen, probably because we'd lose it 7-0 instead and we'd look like *word censored* but if it could be proved that the referee used an unauthorised method of officiating the match- a 4th official with a tv screen- without informing both sets of players and management teams, then he would have by default, officiated a match outside of the agreed laws of the game, meaning that the result is null and void or a best a friendly and would need to be replayed under the correct set of rules agreed upon at the start of the season. Shall I write to Wenger and let him know that he is still on 999 games?

[QuartzGooner]

Northbank and Perry

Good points.
Should be raised with the FA and the Premier League.
The TV replay clearly showed the back of The Ox's shirt as he made that fantastic save.
Was it a cunning double bluff to convince us no TV replay was involved in the official decision?
I reckon the 4th official asked the bloke sitting next to him, or simply guessed!

G88ner

Denilson?
Subs bench.

[Gunner Rob]

we never used to lose by so many when Denilson was playing in midfield because he didn't give the ball away as easily as the clowns we have playing there these days

[Theoperator]

The decision just seems so typical for us this season in the big matches, a total complete and utter shambles.

Mariner should surely be hung out to dry, it was one of the worst decisions ever. he must be related in some way to our manager as he was so stubborn as to ignore The Ox, and accept that he missed who it was. looking closely I cant see that any official saw it at all, total disgrace that we rely on no video in football, that we arent alowed to watch close decisions on the big screens at the match.

It ranks alongside the goal that never was and the two yellow cards and you stay on errors.

It made little or no effect on the result, we were 2 nil down and being severely mauled at the time. If anything it allowed us to get some breath back

Great credit goes to Gibbs who just walked off. Imagine Di Canios reaction if it had been him sent off like that

[officepest]

we never used to lose by so many when Denilson was playing in midfield because he didn't give the ball away as easily as the clowns we have playing there these days

Although watching double below-the-knee amputees, without their prosthetics, sprint past him in midfield was a different kind of hell.

[flash gunner]

It's not Wengers fault that players who have performed week in, week out bottled it today - Sagna, Kos, Artera are leaders and they all bottled it.

[officepest]

Re Marriner and his at best incompetence and at worst something sinister:

We shall hear no more on the matter as we will take our medicine and meekly accept it. We're far too fucking nice these days.

Can you imagine the stink that Chelsea or Utd would kick up if this sort of gross incompetence was visited upon them?

[northbank123]

we never used to lose by so many when Denilson was playing in midfield because he didn't give the ball away as easily as the clowns we have playing there these days

Although watching double below-the-knee amputees, without their prosthetics, sprint past him in midfield was a different kind of hell.

I still have nightmares that I'm on a really fast moving treadmill/quicksand and I'm trying to chase down Wayne Rooney but he motors away easily and tucks it away. Although then I realise I'm Denilson and I don't give a shit about chasing back or indeed anything on a football pitch and I ***** myself silly to one of my payslips.

[officepest]

we never used to lose by so many when Denilson was playing in midfield because he didn't give the ball away as easily as the clowns we have playing there these days

Although watching double below-the-knee amputees, without their prosthetics, sprint past him in midfield was a different kind of hell.

I still have nightmares that I'm on a really fast moving treadmill/quicksand and I'm trying to chase down Wayne Rooney but he motors away easily and tucks it away. Although then I realise I'm Denilson and I don't give a shit about chasing back or indeed anything on a football pitch and I ***** myself silly to one of my payslips.

Yep, fatty Wayne was the incident that sprang to mid as I typed that shit.