As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
Ryanswannell wrote:So the new AKB argument seems to be that the bad results are completely the players faults, and Wenger is in no way to blame.
Don't get me wrong, the players have been completely dogshit recently and should be ashamed of themselves, but how are these people forgetting who it was that brought them in the first place, set's them up all wrong and is afraid to kick them up the arse when they aren't performing, like Mourinho or Ferguson would do?
I just wonder if Wenger had joined in 2007, how many of those people would be calling for his head? When we get a fucking mauling on Saturday because we overcommit players gong forward get give the ball away in midfield countless times I suppose the blame will solely be at the players feet, and Wenger will get away scott free for sitting on his arse doing sod all again
Wenger can hardly be blamed for Higuain/Suarez/that much needed quality striker we signed in the summer not bagging any goals can he?
On a serious note some of the players do deserve stick. Giroud is seriously irritating. Vermaelen far too easily beaten for the first goal. Flamini too slow to track as Kallstrom stood and watched Britton waltzing through. Sagna being scared of trying to beat his man and checking back 50 times every match. It just pales into insignificance really when contrasted with Wenger's culpability though. Especially when from those mentioned Giroud is clearly not up to that role, Vermaelen has barely played this season and Kallstrom was a laughing stock of a signing.
rodders999 wrote:I'd love to do a poll of the entire fan base a simple yes or no on Wenger although I'd be terrified of the results
In addition to the deluded Wenger followers, you would probably have fans of rival clubs voting yes for him to stay (No way of stopping non-Arsenal fans from voting, yeah?) . I already have a number of them wishing me many more years of Wenger .
rodders999 wrote:I'd love to do a poll of the entire fan base a simple yes or no on Wenger although I'd be terrified of the results
In addition to the deluded Wenger followers, you would probably have fans of rival clubs voting yes for him to stay (No way of stopping non-Arsenal fans from voting, yeah?) . I already have a number of them wishing me many more years of Wenger .
Couldn't really be a yes/no survey as a huge huge number of our fans can't give a firm opinion either way. "One more summer/chance", or "if he signs a striker" or some other bollocks that he's ignored for years. Although this opinion is basically tantamount to a 'yes' imo.
I know there is a long running Wenger thread, but wanted to know, the thoughts of fans, on what it will mean for them, if he signs a contract extension. Personally, I despise Wenger, I think he is everything wrong with the modern day Arsenal. He is greedy, arrogant, and has no accountability for the numerous cock-ups he makes. I love The Arsenal, but find myself more disillusioned with the club every day. If Wenger was to sign, I would find it difficult to even watch games, knowing he is ruining the club. How will it affect the SENSIBLE fans on here, who are anti-Wenger?
I honestly CANNOT imagine another 3 years of this.
Pinning all my hopes on him leaving and trying not to think about the reverse because as you say it will be very difficult to watch him bring a once successful team down to sheer mediocrity
more pain and misery,seriously my expectations for this current team is zero under Wenker,in all my 36 years of supporting arsenal I have never felt so disillusioned with everything about the club,it takes me back to 83,to the days of mariner etc etc when they were only here for the beer and the club was in total disarray,we are currently a sleeping giant again,just like back then,wtf has happened to us
I couldn't possibly tolerate 3 more years of him. It will mean more collapses, more panic buys, more frustration for us and inevitably Thursday night football at best.
No disrespect meant BFG4, but your thread is very similar to this long running Wenger thread - people moaning about him with the odd one in favour!
Gonna merge it.
Perryashburtongroves wrote:I couldn't possibly tolerate 3 more years of him. It will mean more collapses, more panic buys, more frustration for us and inevitably Thursday night football at best.
I'm more concerned with how they will appoint the new manager,If Arsene has input, what will stop the mad wanker employing a puppet boss and interfering with team matters again from upstairs? that's very worrying,we'll never get rid of the then.
Perryashburtongroves wrote:I couldn't possibly tolerate 3 more years of him. It will mean more collapses, more panic buys, more frustration for us and inevitably Thursday night football at best.
I'm more concerned with how they will appoint the new manager,If Arsene has input, what will stop the mad wanker employing a puppet boss and interfering with team matters again from upstairs? that's very worrying,we'll never get rid of the then.
This! He will most probably run to the upstairs by some excuse and if he'll do that, I'm more than sure that he will continue to interfere on everything. His ego doesn't allow that that we would employ world class manager, no way. We will probably get some unknown random guy as Wenkers ego doesn't allow a manager who could potentially be better than him. So, more fuck ups, non-existing transfer policy and so on.
This is my biggest fear that will happen. Hopefully he just fucks off.
rodders999 wrote:I'd love to do a poll of the entire fan base a simple yes or no on Wenger although I'd be terrified of the results
In addition to the deluded Wenger followers, you would probably have fans of rival clubs voting yes for him to stay (No way of stopping non-Arsenal fans from voting, yeah?) . I already have a number of them wishing me many more years of Wenger .
Couldn't really be a yes/no survey as a huge huge number of our fans can't give a firm opinion either way. "One more summer/chance", or "if he signs a striker" or some other bollocks that he's ignored for years. Although this opinion is basically tantamount to a 'yes' imo.
Poll question is easy, only need one box for each question. The idea though has a copyright on it most recently applied in the Crimea 2014.:
Do you want Mr Wenger to stay as manager( Tick one answer only) NO
Do you want another Manager (Tick one answer only) YES
Havent been on twitter for 2 years but am gunning for john cross w*nker so logged on to abuse him - short messages so didn't get to say much but feel slightly better anyway