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[BFG4]

I can't believe there are still people that believe Wenger will leave directly because of not getting 4th or not winning the FA Cup. Wenger will leave when Wenger decides he wants to leave. Winning the FA Cup or not, getting 4th or not, will have no impact whatsoever. As for losing the fans? I reckon we that want him gone are still in the minority, certainly in the minority of Conglomerates attendees.

spot on.
it does not matter whether we lose every other game this season.
Wenger received the backing from Kroenke last week.

look at what Wenger has "achieved this season"

1. another full set of season ticket renewals
2. a world class player has been bought
3. top of the league for most of the season
4. qualification from the Champions League group stages
5. a creditable draw against the European champions
6. the FA Cup semi finals at Wembley and a chance of real glory
7. still on course for a 17th consecutive top 4 finish

this list is what Kroenke sees and why he sees Wenger as the right man to lead Arsenal forward.
the defeats are irrelevant.

Agree 100%, I doubt Stan will be too bothered if we crash out of a trophy that earns him little or nothing, just as long as we qualify for the cash cow. As for the fans, the AKBS will go into hiding, if we lose to Wigan, but will magically reappear to praise Wenger for getting the team to respond with a win against West Ham, there is no pressure on Wenger at all.

[northbank123]

I can't believe there are still people that believe Wenger will leave directly because of not getting 4th or not winning the FA Cup. Wenger will leave when Wenger decides he wants to leave. Winning the FA Cup or not, getting 4th or not, will have no impact whatsoever. As for losing the fans? I reckon we that want him gone are still in the minority, certainly in the minority of Conglomerates attendees.

Sadly so. The BSM poll said 44% wanted him gone IF WE FAILED TO FINISH TOP 4. A massive caveat and these results coming from the biggest 'protest group'.

[1989]

We're so going to bottle this. I can't think of a more predictable outcome. Our players have absolutely no balls whatsoever and will freeze on the big occassion. Wigan are confident and under no pressure; they will grab the opportunity.

[northbank123]

We're so going to bottle this. I can't think of a more predictable outcome. Our players have absolutely no balls whatsoever and will freeze on the big occassion. Wigan are confident and under no pressure; they will grab the opportunity.

I am genuinely terrified about this game. Had a sinking feeling at work today and it's going to get worse as the week goes on. If we fail to win the FA Cup after a mixture of a good draw, good performances and good luck have conspired to see us through to the semis with only these teams left in it will be right up there as a testimonial to the second half of Wenger's reign.

[1989]

We're so going to bottle this. I can't think of a more predictable outcome. Our players have absolutely no balls whatsoever and will freeze on the big occassion. Wigan are confident and under no pressure; they will grab the opportunity.

I am genuinely terrified about this game. Had a sinking feeling at work today and it's going to get worse as the week goes on. If we fail to win the FA Cup after a mixture of a good draw, good performances and good luck have conspired to see us through to the semis with only these teams left in it will be right up there as a testimonial to the second half of Wenger's reign.

The one positive thing about this outcome is that there will be no way back for Wenger.

[northbank123]

We're so going to bottle this. I can't think of a more predictable outcome. Our players have absolutely no balls whatsoever and will freeze on the big occassion. Wigan are confident and under no pressure; they will grab the opportunity.

I am genuinely terrified about this game. Had a sinking feeling at work today and it's going to get worse as the week goes on. If we fail to win the FA Cup after a mixture of a good draw, good performances and good luck have conspired to see us through to the semis with only these teams left in it will be right up there as a testimonial to the second half of Wenger's reign.

The one positive thing about this outcome is that there will be no way back for Wenger.

I must admit I find it strange that he hasn't signed the deal yet but despite the ill-feeling at the moment being amplified if we finish 5th and blow the FA Cup, Wenger will still have an £8m-a-year deal in front of him if he wants it. And he's made it quite clear that he has no regard for any of the fans' opinions, although it can't be particularly enjoyable to him would his ego let him walk away at such a bad time knowing that every man and his dog will presume it is because he has failed (which he will not accept)?

It's nigh-on impossible to second guess Wenger sometimes but I personally don't think how this season finishes will make a difference to whether he stays or goes.

[Robin_L]

I think Wigan could well be the form favourites for the whole thing. Our form and confidence is gone, Sheffield United have gone off the boil after that long win streak they were on and Hull can't play Jelavic/Long in this competition.

[1989]

The furore that will ensue will be too much even for a stubborn lunatic like Wenger.

[northbank123]

The furore that will ensue will be too much even for a stubborn lunatic like Wenger.

Furore on here and in the media maybe. We would get relegated before he copped any serious stick at the Emirates.

[1989]

The furore that will ensue will be too much even for a stubborn lunatic like Wenger.

Furore on here and in the media maybe. We would get relegated before he copped any serious stick at the Emirates.

I remember how the Emirates had turned on him against Villa in the season opener. Wenger is not as safe as you may think. Many of the match going fans have had enough.

[nut flush gooner]

The furore that will ensue will be too much even for a stubborn lunatic like Wenger.

Furore on here and in the media maybe. We would get relegated before he copped any serious stick at the Emirates.

Was you there for the villa game? It was pure hatred pouring from the stands. 60,000 gooners singing you don't know what you're doing, and that wasn't at the ref!

[northbank123]

The furore that will ensue will be too much even for a stubborn lunatic like Wenger.

Furore on here and in the media maybe. We would get relegated before he copped any serious stick at the Emirates.

I remember how the Emirates had turned on him against Villa in the season opener. Wenger is not as safe as you may think. Many of the match going fans have had enough.

I don't seem to remember any "Wenger Out" banners or chants. The fans will happily voice their discontent but it is very rarely aimed at Wenger - it's either imploring nobody to start spending money or aimed at Gazidis who - whilst a slimy prick - makes a convenient fall guy. And we all know how quickly the little show of discontent was forgotten as we started picking up a few results (by everyone other than the media who fanned the flames afterwards then turned round and complained what a bunch of impatient and short-sighted bastards we were).

[augie]

At no stage did I suggest anything about the board wanting anything other than wenker signing a new contract BUT what I am saying is that the man himself is very very close to being a broken man and losing to wigan might be the deciding factor in pushing him over that edge

Let me clarify something to nut flush (not that I should need to)......I am 100% a Gooner and have been for close to 40 years now and I am ensuring that my 2 sons are Gooners too. I will always, and I mean always, want what is best for the club and it is what we perceive to be what is the best for the club that seems to be where we difer - you are totally ok with throwing podolski under the bus for short term success whilst I would reluctantly accept throwing wenker and the fa cup under the bus for long term success.

Why is winning the cup so important to you ? Is it for the enjoyment/delight/satisfaction that it will give you ? I do totally understand those feelings and would feel the same myself but right now I would be willing to sacrifice my own delight if it helped the club accelerate the process of changes at the top cos those changes might actually bring me more than 1 day in the sun every 8 years. Unlike many others I dont put pressure on wenker because of the lack of trophies because I accept that there are only a few trophies and many clubs battling to win them, but I do want and expect to see the club progress year after year and if that still comes up short then so be it. What we are living through now is the same stagnant bullshit that we have been going through for over 6 years now and I have had enough of it Does it make me a better fan than you because I am willing to accept short term pain if it meant long term gain ? Of course it doesnt but by the same token dont for one second think that it allows you to judge me as a lesser Gooner than you.

I should also say that, if wenker signed a new contract in the next few days then my point is moot and I would want to win the fa cup 10-0

[clockender1]

wenger won't even make this a priority - Ramsey and ox will play 20 minutes and be rested for the West Ham game 72 hours later.

[topgoon]

But there can be no-one who, genuinely believes 100% that, after being hammered away by our 4 closest rivals, Arsene still knows best!

They look like a blooming cult.

That is a scary shot.

On the prospect of top 4/virtual trophy, if Everton bottle it from this position then they are even bigger bloody chokers than the scum.

If loss of vt/top 4 status is what gets Akbs to grab their pitch forks, then I shall be supporting the blue dippers for 6weeks,except when they play Shitty. Shitty have to win the league.