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Anyone who's moaning about our celebrations are just jealous. The point of cup competitions is that often progression is down to luck or getting a good draw or being better than another side on a given day. We've beaten Liverpool, Spurs and Everton, so I think it's unfair to say we've got through easily.

I didn't think Wigan deserved to win either, they offered very little and wouldn't have scored if we hadn't given them a goal. What annoyed me what that after we scored we looked hungry and nearly won it in normal time. Then as soon as ET started that urgency just evaporated in seconds! Why?! Argh it drives me mad!

Gibbs was good when he came on, the Ox also looked good. Sanogo was terrible, but so was Podolski - at least YS tried to get involved, Podolski did nothing of note. I hope YS starts on Tuesday and scores, just to put yesterday firmly behind him.

Still rather than moan too much, all I want to do is look forward to a Cup Final against either a shit Prem team (we've been quite good against those) or a League One team. A Cup Final! Come on!!

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I too was beside myself with the abject performance of the team (Ox being the exception)....and while I agree the players need to take the deserved criticism, the real blame lies with Wenger AND the board (No I am not USmartin)
it is the board that have given him carte blanche to do whatever he wants in any fashion he deems right in a (now financially driven) business that was once a sport - where any other manger would have been booted out the door long ago.
Wenger did wonders when he came - and for that I will always be grateful....But as everyone knows (well except the Arsenal board and wenger) every bright star has its time in the spotlight of the world then is replaced by something/someone new/better...which is why, I say yes, 9 of the players (thought Ox did us proud and Gibbs made a good impact) need a damn good kick up the jacksie - But it is wenger who has pampered and given them a freedom that the likes of Rednose and Mourinhocunt never would - and those two may be *word censored* but they also won/win things.

The buck stops with Wenger and The Board.

Roll on Wemberly! :barscarf:

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Rubbish performance.
Same lack of ability to break down any side these days who set up 2 banks of defenders and let us have the ball to pass sideways all day long.
Sanogo leading the line in an important game? I really hope Wenger is squirming this morning about turning to Sanogo instead of an extra £10m to land Suarez.

But but but but but. We are in the FA Cup Final and I go back to the 60s for the first one I can remember watching on Grandstand and when my team's in it, I fucking love it. :barscarf: :barscarf: :barscarf:

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MK Gould wrote:
nut flush gooner wrote:
MK Gould wrote:Got a text from a City fan after the game taking the piss for the "OTT celebrations of the fans and players". But I couldn't give a shit. Ok, so the celebration was far more than when we beat Southampton in Cardiff to win the trophy, but it's been 9 years since we reached an FA Cup final FFS...

The people who should be mightily embarrassed are the top brass at the FA who insist on holding these games at Wembley - and then have the consequences beamed around the world i.e. 8000 empty seats out of Wigan's already massively reduced allocation.
Bit rich from a city fan imo. All this sheikhs money seems to go to their heads.

It wasn't 15 years ago that their club where in a sorry state. When they won their first FA cup semi final a few years back do you think they didn't celebrate? :rubchin: :rubchin:
Or when they beat the mighty Gillingham in a play off final... :D !
I was there. They needed half an hour of injury time to get an equaliser and when City went to Priestfield for a pre-season friendly the following season the announcer, at the final whistle, asked the Citeh players "to stay on the pitch for ten minutes as you might get another goal".

The following season the Gills were back at Wembley against Dave Whelan's big spending Wigan. They brought 7,000 fans. A pitiful sight.

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northbank123 wrote:Forgot all this master tactician or fast pressing bollocks. Yesterday we were yet again nullified by a team staying compact and narrow, forcing us out wide where we don't create from. It's so fucking basic it's unreal. Playing Sanogo instead of Giroud did open up the possibility of getting in behind but unfortunately he is completely cack.

Mixed feelings on the Podolski one. He was having a poor game (even more so than the rest of them) but when a team camps back in their own box he is our most dangerous player. If he gets the ball around the corner of the box he is just about the only player we have that will beat a man with ease on the outside. He'll just knock it past them and get a ball across rather than putting his foot on it and taking the sting out of it. But what salvaged the draw was not just going 4-4-2 - it was the decision to start tossing balls into the box which they clearly weren't expecting or equipped to deal with.
I completely agree with this. The 'How to Play Against Arsenal' encyclopaedia consists of one page, as quoted by Northbank.
Tragic that Aw's Plan B was straight out of the Pulis Handbook.

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The plan B that means we got to a final bothers me not one jot.

I got back knackered and a little fed up last night at our performance, we had good chances to take the lead but then sank into being pedestrian again.

Despite the sh*te being spouted by the media, Wigan dominated nothing yesterday. They defended well and got a penalty that looked like 1 50-50 in real time. Saw the slo-mo replay this morning and on reflection it was a pen. Monreal going off was a godsend as he was doing nothing. Callum Macmanaman staying on against Gibbs would have been interesting because his forward runs would have been checked by Gibss, who was excellent from when he came on.

We should have won the game in extra time bt we won it on pens because British players are f**king awful at taking pens and the foreign boys all knew what to do.

I am not full of the joys of spring about the way we won but come 4 weeks time if we do that again, as much as the media might not like it, the cup doesn't say "jammy,fortunate,average,scraped through,blah,blah,blah.

When Klu Klux King Kenny beat Cardiff in the league cup final in a game that ende on penalties after a Pool tem that regardless of having Klu Klux Kannibal,Stevie Mee,Reina and Dirk Kuyt in it, it was hailed as something a lot more than mundane etc.

Cardiff completely outplayed the Victims for a good chunk of that game, yet not one word about Gerrard being average for the game and missing a penalty.

The players celebrated yesterday because only 2 players in that team have ever won anything. Giroud(Ligue 1 2011-12) and Sanogo winning the U20s World cup. :shock:

That is it, not one of the others as far as I can remember is a seasoned winner or winner of any kind in terms of trophies.
As a team they got to the semis, won on pens to get to a final. I'd f**king celebrate. They have a chance of a trophy, not the board/AW's pointless trinket but a real one. :barscarf:

Anyone that says they shouldn't celebrate should get real. This team is good but not brilliant. It has pieces of a jigsaw that needs to be finished by another manager to achieve things. A final is good step, if we get players back and get ourselves into good form and can beat Sheffield Utd/Hull in a months time then the Ox is right it could be the start of it. :barscarf:

It's f**king ironic that after years of the media going on about how wonderful we are to watch yet we win f**k all, we are on the cusp of winning the oldest cup competition in the World by being dour. They can't have it both ways, they can't say we are not good enough to compete at the top because our squad is average yet bemoan us not winning the league. We cocked up 2 transfer windows or we would be sitting pretty at the top of the league. For this we have only one man to blame. :evil:

Let's hope we give him his swansong and then he departs quietly to Paris in the summer as he departed the pitchside yesterday. :barscarf:

Finally well done to plucky Wigan.....and yes that is a patronising pat on the head and f**k off back to the championship with your irritating tw*t of a chairman. Hope Derby or Reading pip you or QPR to promotion. :twisted:

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topgoon wrote:Finally well done to plucky Wigan.....and yes that is a patronising pat on the head and f**k off back to the championship with your irritating tw*t of a chairman. Hope Derby or Reading pip you or QPR to promotion. :twisted:
Did you know he broke his leg in an FA Cup final? I just thought I'd mention it because HE NEVER DOES.

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nut flush gooner wrote:
Gunner Rob wrote:Leaving all criticism aside I would much rather have a day out at Wembley each year rather than a place in the Champions League. Fantastic atmosphere in the pubs pre game, the walk up Wembley Way, superb stuff
Agreed, I will take a year out of the champions league that we dont really have a chance of winning for finally bagging some silverware.

I don't care about the performance, we won and have a massive chance of winning the fucker.

As for celebrating afterwards too fucking right. Yesterday was an emotional roller coaster. You can tell that its stressful when gooners almost come to blows when we are 1-0 down. But at the end it was mental walking out of the stadium and celebrating on olympic way.

I do wonder about the mentality of some gooners.

Says the guy who is proposing a new contract for flapianski :roll: :oops:

I would have no prob with the performance being shit and I would overlook the cringeworthy celebrations from the players (the fans are entitled to go wild imo) if it was a one off - every single time that we play against a half organised team we struggle. Every time we play against a team managed by a guy with decent tactical acumen, we are fcuked. Playing against us doesn't require any type of tactical genius nor does it need great players to nullify us - we are a shambles both mentally and tactically and that is unacceptable.

Some fans would like to spout the usual clichés about "cup games being a great leveller" and how wigan are a good team......I'm sorry but that is total bullshit and is indicative of the weak mentality that grips our club these days :oops: This is the same team that travelled to Bayern a few weeks ago spouting bullshit about how we were still good enough to beat them, and yet we are unable to beat wigan after 120 minutes of football - it seems that, not alone are we unable to beat champs league teams, but now we are unable to beat championship teams :roll:

Re the celebrations from the players afterwards, can I ask those that defend them if they felt that our players put in as much effort in the previous 120 minutes as they did running around celebrating afterwards ? Most of these players are spineless fcukers who do not deserve to wear our shirt much less represent the club in a cup final :x I would rather be disrespectful to wigan by under celebrating, than behaving like we had won the cup against one of the best teams in world football - hopefully we will win the cup in a few weeks time and then they (the players) can go as wild as they want but yesterday shame, embarrassment and relief should be how they felt at end of penalties

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How can you feel shame and embarrassment after winning a penalty shootout to reach the FA Cup final? :lol:


Topgoon, you'll find that many of the players have actually won things before they came here. Per has won the German Cup, Vermaelen won everything in Holland, Sagna won the French Cup, Flappy won the league in Poland, Arteta won everything in Scotland, Kallstrom won everything in France, Cazorla won the lot with Spain, Podolski won everything in Germany.

It's only when they join us that they get the Wenger trophyless curse.

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Might as well keep the same thread title for the final :lol:

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We were shit, fucking awful. If ever a game showed Wenger has reached the end this is it.

Gibbs and the Ox played well apart from that every other player was awful. Sanogo is a fucking useless pub footballer, what the fuck are a club like Arsenal doing with a player like that? :banghead: bullshit

We got to the final which at the end of it is the only thing that matters but the player celebration at the end was embarrassing :oops: i was getting texts off all sort of people taking the piss out of the 'selfies' and all the other shit.

Wenger has had his day yesterday proved it. Wenger out

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1989 wrote:How can you feel shame and embarrassment after winning a penalty shootout to reach the FA Cup final? :lol:


Topgoon, you'll find that many of the players have actually won things before they came here. Per has won the German Cup, Vermaelen won everything in Holland, Sagna won the French Cup, Flappy won the league in Poland, Arteta won everything in Scotland, Kallstrom won everything in France, Cazorla won the lot with Spain, Podolski won everything in Germany.

It's only when they join us that they get the Wenger trophyless curse.

Fcuk me you don't half twist words :roll: I said, and I absolutely stand by my words, that we should be embarrassed at going OTT at being unable to beat a championship team in 120 minutes :oops: That it was a cup semi doesn't mask the fact that we should never have needed penalties to beat wigan and for a team consisting of players that have won all those trophies (that you listed above), and for a team that is made up of seasoned experienced international like ours is, to see them play like that for 120 minutes and still react like it was the game of their lives is cringeworthy imo. Last season we were treated to an on pitch mardi gras after we clinched the virtual trophy in geordieland and now we celebrate beating wigan on pens as if it was the best team in the world that we had just scrapped by :roll:
We used to have standards but now beating wigan is an almighty feat :(

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Got a text at 7pm Friday offering me a ticket, so thought what the hell :D

Seats were row 2, near halfway line, with an absolute beautiful Irish lass to my left that meant I spent only half the game watching the on - pitch events :D

We were as predictable as we have been for most of this season, looking lethargic, one paced (exception being Ox )

Wenker got booed for taking Podolski off (why not have him alongside Giroud ?? as although not having a great game, he does at least have a proven goalscoring record) strange that going 2 up top caused them far more trouble than tip tap shite.

was close to Wenker and he was doing his usual crouching down in the technical area when he had no idea what to do and got dogs abuse from one guy to which he actually turned around and acknowledged him with a thumbs up :D

Winning on Pens v a lower league side isn't great but I seem to remember in 98 our double winners needed pens to beat mighty Port Vale so don't begrudge the players celebrating getting through.

Wenker.................the end is nigh.

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1989 wrote:How can you feel shame and embarrassment after winning a penalty shootout to reach the FA Cup final? :lol:


Topgoon, you'll find that many of the players have actually won things before they came here. Per has won the German Cup, Vermaelen won everything in Holland, Sagna won the French Cup, Flappy won the league in Poland, Arteta won everything in Scotland, Kallstrom won everything in France, Cazorla won the lot with Spain, Podolski won everything in Germany.

It's only when they join us that they get the Wenger trophyless curse.
France sh*t league ,Kallstrom won when if Lyon didn't win the league there where questions asked in the French National assembly.

For Ajax..and TV5, see above
Same gos for Sagna,Flappy and are you honestly telling me Santi was a major part of a winning Spanish side, he plays when David Silva is injured...end off. That's like saying if Pool win the league Brad Jones played a major part :shock:

Check out Poldi's time at Bayern, I remember Rafe Hongstein saying how he never really felt part of the Bayern team and was homesick and once Luca Toni was signed his relationship with the fans plummeted so he left.

My post also said a team of seasoned winners, they are not that in any way shape or form. They weren't winners before they got here or they wouldn't have cost us as little as they did. Ozil is the only real winner as h came from a title winning Real side. You think if our team was full of Ozil type signings we'd be just making it past Wigan on pens
:rubchin:

Swap TV5 for Thiago Silva,Sagna for Ivanovic,Santi for David Silva,Kallstrom on loan.....f**k that, Pirlo on loan instead..Poldi for David Villa anyone.......now that's a team with winners.

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Having been there yesterday and since having time to reflect, some thoughts :-

1. Wenger go - was a revolutionary all those years back. He stood still since (arrogance,complacency,age?), other managers/coaches have moved on and moved passed. Sell by date expired.
2. Podolski - so want to like him. Paradox is you can't play 100 + times for Germany and be poor ? Truth is,good finisher as he is, offered nothing yesterday
3. The money and strikers - when we were ''poor'' we had the brilliance of Wrighty, Henry,Bergkamp and even, to a lesser degree Wiltord, up front. Now we are ''rich'' - Giroud,Podolski,Sanogo (Bender not even worth a mention) - I really really don't get it.
4. How wide a new hole would the invincibles tear this lot?

Desperate for us to win the FA Cup for us, the supporters - the 'club',board, too many of the players ? Fuck them

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