[POLL] Should we have bought back Cesc Fabregas?

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Would you buy Cesc Fabregas this summer?

YES
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68%
NO
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22%
MAYBE
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10%
 
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Re: [POLL] Should we buy back Cesc Fabregas?

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Ed Hunter The Gooner wrote:Good piece about Cesc situation in Football365.com...

http://www.football365.com/f365-says/9339654/F365-Says
I quote;

"The concept of having 'too many' brilliant players is an odd one at any club, but particularly at Arsenal, where injuries routinely tear the guts out of their side and derail any chance they might have for a genuine title bid. Last season they were going great guns until Aaron Ramsey, Theo Walcott and others were inevitably felled, to which Wenger's response was to sign an ageing Swede who turned out to have a cracked vertebrae. Frankly, Wenger might as well have registered Gunnersaurus for all the good Kim Kallstrom did them."

This, for me, probably more than the tactical ineptitude and the persisting with crap players, is a real indicator of rank and absolute mismanagement. How any AKB can still defend Arsene as the right man for the job is beyond me. :|

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I wonder how much of a coincidence it is that the news of our refusal broke the day after Gazidis’ disheartening (and altogether inevitable, it seems) caveat that Wenger will have to “juggle a set budget.” We have swelled our coffers, to be sure, only we’ve done it with our money instead of oil money.

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Post by QuartzGooner »

If Cesc goes to Chelsea, we only have ourselves to blame.

It seems he wanted to come back to us.

It would be horrible.

But I will not boo him.

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DB10GOONER wrote:
Ed Hunter The Gooner wrote:Good piece about Cesc situation in Football365.com...

http://www.football365.com/f365-says/9339654/F365-Says
I quote;

"The concept of having 'too many' brilliant players is an odd one at any club, but particularly at Arsenal, where injuries routinely tear the guts out of their side and derail any chance they might have for a genuine title bid. Last season they were going great guns until Aaron Ramsey, Theo Walcott and others were inevitably felled, to which Wenger's response was to sign an ageing Swede who turned out to have a cracked vertebrae. Frankly, Wenger might as well have registered Gunnersaurus for all the good Kim Kallstrom did them."

This, for me, probably more than the tactical ineptitude and the persisting with crap players, is a real indicator of rank and absolute mismanagem
ent. How any AKB can still defend Arsene as the right man for the job is beyond me. :|
Quote - 7am kickoff:

"On the other hand, Fabregas finds himself—and us—in this situation because of his actions in 2011, when he put Arsenal in an impossible position, and subsequently moved to a club very well stocked in players of his type. As a result, when he did play at Barcelona, he was often played out of position. As a result, he failed to make a single position his own. As a result, he’s getting pushed out.

Underappreciated by Barcelona? Very much so. Partly his fault? Yes. And I’m not saying that with any maliciousness. I genuinely wanted him back at Arsenal this summer, and I imagine he wanted us, too. I also understand his reasons for wanting to join Barcelona. But his actions three years ago are felt to have injured us twice, both then, when we lost our best player, and now, when we face the prospect of him playing for an utterly insipid manager and club.

The thing to do now is focus on what we have. In Ozil, we have a younger player of the same caliber who is now acclimated to the Premier League. In Ramsey, we have Ramsey. In Wilshere, we hope to have Ramsey. In Cazorla, we have a shorter Ramsey.

In short, we don’t pay for Cesc. We have Ramsey."

Spot on.

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QuartzGooner wrote:If Cesc goes to Chelsea, we only have ourselves to blame.

It seems he wanted to come back to us.

It would be horrible.

But I will not boo him.
I agree that you don’t say no to a player like Cesc. Especially when 5 of your first team midfielders are out of contract after 2 more seasons (as it stands). However it APPEARS that Arsenal are saying no to Cesc and there must be a good reason for it. Finance is the most likely cause, even though I think we have quite a lot of money to spend. And while we have our limits, I find the use of the words ‘set budget’ a little weird since I seem to recall Gazidis saying a few years ago that we have no set budget to give to Wenger, that discussions take place on the basis of need and any opportunity which comes up.

I don’t really love Cesc. Not after the way he left and the timing of his decision, but I can’t deny the history with Arsenal, and that he is a great player. I wish if he were leaving Barcelona, it could be for us. For whatever reason, it seems it won’t be. A pity, but what else can you do except shrug your shoulders and move on. We’ll focus on Arsenal, and hopefully we get what we need.

PS. There was a (passing) suggestion on Arseblog’s Arsecast extra that the presence of Dein has something to do with our reluctance to bring him back.

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QuartzGooner wrote:If Cesc goes to Chelsea, we only have ourselves to blame.

It seems he wanted to come back to us.

It would be horrible.

But I will not boo him.

too true -
bring him back he is a fighter , a warrior and has a winners mentality- we need someone like him
I can forgive his move to Barca, if he signs for the chavs a bit of me will die
can you imagine if he is the difference between them winning the PL and not
Wenger do something FFS

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£27m is an absolute snip for a player of Cesc's quality. Who cares how many midfielders we've got, he is head and shoulders above them all, yes that includes Ramsey and Ozil. If it was Mourinho he would certainly be telling Wilshere and Carzola that if they want to play first team football then they should find another club just like with Mata. Our manager however comes out with crap like "It would kill Wilshere". Wenger has spouted on about "super quality" and "lack of availability" for so long now, I cant believe he would pass on cesc. He would add much needed tempo to the current slow one dimensional game we play.

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hut160 wrote:
QuartzGooner wrote:If Cesc goes to Chelsea, we only have ourselves to blame.

It seems he wanted to come back to us.

It would be horrible.

But I will not boo him.

too true -
bring him back he is a fighter , a warrior and has a winners mentality- we need someone like him
I can forgive his move to Barca, if he signs for the chavs a bit of me will die
can you imagine if he is the difference between them winning the PL and not
Wenger do something FFS
He will be, and more bits of us all will die :oops: :evil: . How utterly demoralising.
Theres no doubt in my mind that if AW had retired after the cup win that Cesc would be joining us.

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Jesus Christ! Just show Ozil the door. Done. If someone said to me that we would buy Cesc for 42m 3 years ago I wouldnt of cared about the price. Ozil is a flop, is on huge wages and doesnt look happy. Also why let a rival have Cesc? Its really simple what the solution is. Swap Ozil for Di Maria.

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spendsum4uckingmoney wrote:Jesus Christ! Just show Ozil the door. Done. If someone said to me that we would buy Cesc for 42m 3 years ago I wouldnt of cared about the price. Ozil is a flop, is on huge wages and doesnt look happy. Also why let a rival have Cesc? Its really simple what the solution is. Swap Ozil for Di Maria.
ozil is a flop after one average season? the one time we spend big money on a top class talent and you think there is no point in persevering with them? :|

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Who reckons this is all just a smokescreen for our £100m bidding war with Real for Suarez? Arsene knows best :banghead:

That or we sign Jean-Christophe Bahebeck on a free :banghead:

Fabregas for £27m is a steal :cussing:

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Re: [POLL] Should we buy back Cesc Fabregas?

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Kallstrom29 wrote:Who reckons this is all just a smokescreen for our £100m bidding war with Real for Suarez? Arsene knows best :banghead:

That or we sign Jean-Christophe Bahebeck on a free :banghead:

Fabregas for £27m is a steal :cussing:
Barca would know that more than most having managed to steal him for that before.....paid over 10 years in luncheon vouchers and conkers

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spendsum4uckingmoney wrote:Jesus Christ! Just show Ozil the door. Done. If someone said to me that we would buy Cesc for 42m 3 years ago I wouldnt of cared about the price. Ozil is a flop, is on huge wages and doesnt look happy. Also why let a rival have Cesc? Its really simple what the solution is. Swap Ozil for Di Maria.
No thanks to your suggestion. I'd rather have Özil.

Besides...

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augie wrote:
Arsenal Till I Die wrote:
augie wrote:
donaldo wrote:
Lee1 wrote:I'm not surprised but if true very disappointed in it and him. Another mercenary but aren't they all.
When are you and others going to realise Cesc hasnt snubbed us we have turned him down.We had first option to buy him we turned it down.The reason Cesc will not be playing for Arsenal next season is Wenger not Cesc.Stop this stupid crap about him being a mercenary.And when Ozil fails to turn up at the Etihad The Bridge Anfield and OT again next season you know who to blame


Don you are wasting your time - truly bewildered as to the way some people are absolutely CHOOSING to ignore the fact that cesc will only sign for the chavs or mancs IF WE DONT WANT HIM :roll: :oops: He wants to sign for us and every media site out there has confirmed this, so he isn't betraying us or following the money by signing for someone else
I already gave you the reason Cesc is a being criticised (by me at least) - his undying love, fuck everyone but Arsenal quotes.

Woe betide anyone who has a different opinion to your own as it doesn't seem to be acknowledged.


If I hadnt acknowledged it then I wouldnt have responded to it - anyway I actually like when people have different opinions than me, but what I dont like/accept is that those who would slate cesc if he joined the chavs have refused to acknowledge the fact that he would probably only do so if we reject him. I have yet to see any of them come up with a suggestion as to what cesc should do at this point in his career - if barca want to sell him and we dont want to buy him, then ye tell us what the guy is supposed to do :?
He can instruct his agent to try and wrangle a deal to another team.

If he really did love Arsenal he wouldn't play for Chelsea.

However, arguing over spilt milk is pointless, Wenger is as much to blame for saying no as Cesc is for joining them.

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Arsenal Till I Die wrote: However, arguing over spilt milk is pointless, Wenger is as much to blame for saying no as Cesc is for joining them.
50/50?

Surely, if - as reports suggest - it's us who have turned Cesc down despite his willngness to return, the blame is heavily weighted on Arsenal? :rubchin:

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