THE WENGER THREAD

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@Laughing Gooner

Understudy?

Could quite happily see a midfield of Ramsey and Flamini in the middle, Cesc as number 10 with Ozil and Walcott as the wide men.

But Herd had a theory that Cesc fell out with Wenger, I have heard that from someone else too before Herd posted it here.
No idea if true or not?

If he fell out with Wenger, then why is there this buy back clause? I find that very puzzling. I can't see why Wenger would want him back if they fell out and more probable that there is a sell-on clause.

[Ikechukwu1]

Arsene won the FA Cup. So 1 A Cup in 9 years apparently makes him a better manager than Jose!
I suppose that means Martinez was a better manager than Jose last year. Also didn't even Redknapp win the FA Cup with Portsmouth? Yup some achievement!

[kiwomya]

Great. So it's no longer about trophies it's about getting one up on Mourinho?

No - it's all about trophies: we've only won one in the past 9 years; Mourinho has won several leagues, many cups, and a champions league within that same time span.

I like how you're trying to erase a near decade's worth of failure because we managed to win the FA Cup and Mourinho won fu*k all.

I can't erase those years but you can't go back and change them either.

[SteveO 35]

Arsene won the FA Cup. So 1 A Cup in 9 years apparently makes him a better manager than Jose!
I suppose that means Martinez was a better manager than Jose last year. Also didn't even Redknapp win the FA Cup with Portsmouth? Yup some achievement!

McDowell.......McDowell......come in McDowell......do you read me?

Massive 'Arry love in warning! Red Alert !

Tell me Mr Chukwu - has your cousin ever seen Aurier play ?

[Clash]

Just seen a couple of leaked documents from AKB HQ :


Our position for summer 2013 :

1) Remind other supporters that these cups are something we could do without and that nobody cares about these outdated competitions anymore. Wholeheartedly support the managers stance to have the domestic cups low down on his list of priorities. It’s all about the CL. The game has changed, get used to it!

2) Let it be known that trophies are for just for small minded fans whose lack of mental capacity means they need silverware to keep them happy. Just because Wenger hasn’t won anything for years doesn’t mean he isn’t working miracles. State that they Emirates years have been a success. It’s not all about trophies.

3) Point out that there is nothing satisfactory about buying your way to the title and that we do things the Arsenal way. Spending big isn’t the answer.

4) Do not forget to look back and appreciate what Wenger has done for this club … even if it is now in the distant past. Tell others to show the man some respect for his past achievements.

5) Believe that anyone who doesn’t accept the above isn’t capable of seeing the bigger picture.


Our revised position – updated summer 2014

1) Remind other supporters that the FA Cup is a unique and historic competition that is revered around the world and that winning it was crucial. The importance of winning in football never changes.

2) Let it be known that it’s all about trophies. Highlight the fact that Mourinho didn’t win a trophy. And neither did Rodgers, Martinez or Moyes. Use this fact as solid proof that Wenger is still the right man for the job.

3) Point out that now we have money to spend, Wenger will prove he is still the best man for the job by splashing the cash on quality signings. He has earned the right to spend big.

4) The past is history, it is the future that counts. Tell others to stop dwelling on the last 8 years because it’s unhealthy and you cant turn back the clock.

5) Beielve that anyone who doesn’t accept the above isn’t capable of seeing the bigger picture.

[Blood_Gooner]

Hi. Long time reader first time poster. I'm Arsenal fan for over 25 years and this is the most unhappy I have ever been.
I really am sick of the lies and of Wenger's greed. His lies are too many but among his various crimes is his utter contempt for supporters. The way he talks as if HE is doing US a favour by stealing £8m a year (!) "I agreed to stay here and gave my word". No mate sorry don't want you here. There is his 'socialism' about wages and his moaning about how we are on the edge of a football financial crisis....yet he happily negotiates hardball higher wages for himself! His tactical acumen is a total joke, and he is too arrogant to delegate to anyone. The 6-0 at Chelsea was almost as shocking as the 8-2, and the 5-1 at Anfield. The FA cup has NOT swayed me, not when Wenger said I quotw "When you go to sign players nobody asks you how you did in the FA cup. They want to know if you can win the league or the CL".
Wenger said that!
Could go on but not much point. This Fabregas business is another dark, dark chapter. Why even bother having the clause in there if it won't be used? I don't buy this BS from many of our fans. Cesc pisses all over Cazorla (who scores against rubbish), Ozil, Arteta (lol you serious?). He should be signed simple. AW too arrogant though. And as usual, our soppy ridiculous fans will blame Cesc when WENGER is the one to blame. It's the same with RVP: yeah RVP is a nob but did he sell himself to Man U? If Liverpool were able to keep Suarez without CL footie what is the excuse for Arsenal becoming Citeh/Chelsea's development academy? The ST prices, the overpaid dross etc. It does not feel like my club anymore and as for Wenger, I've never disliked or been more indifferent to any Arsenal manager. EVER.

anyways. Hi!

The clause was there, just in case we needed his services in the event of him leaving Barca.
He's leaving Barca, but we don't need him.
So we don't need to invoke the clause.
Is pretty simple to me.
Or shall we use the issue just to slag off Wenger, without any reason to your argument??

Have you read what you wrote there?! Here's a thing; Do you recall how we were storming the PL earlier this season? Do you recall the main reason? Ramsey? Do you recall Ramsey getting injured and us not having the proven quality to replace him? Do you honestly think we will go this season without key injuries? Do you not think it would be advisable to have top players in the squad to allow for injury or suspensions or drop in form or fatigue? Seriously?

Do you honestly think Fabregas would be happy to come as understudy to the likes of Ozil and Ramsay??
No, I dont think so.....lol

Who said anything about understudy? Not me. I said we need a strong squad with quality players to play when other quality players are injured. My point is we get regular injuries to our best players and replace them with poor or average players. This is one of the main reasons we can't win the PL. If Cesc came then some games Ramsey plays, some games Cesc plays, some games Ozil, or any combination thereof that works, would be my way of seeing it. Cesc would have to earn his place. At least that is how it should be.

Long before Wenger introduced to Arsenal this idea of the oh-so-precious pampered modern footballer, there was a thing called a squad. Players in that squad were expected to earn their place in the first 11. There was no bullshit like "I'm not signing a top quality player because it would kill Denilson/Eboue/Mong/whoever". The concept was you gathered as many really good players as you could and you let them fight it out to see who played on the Saturday. The best most in form player started on the Saturday.

Top, top, top, super, exceptional quality post this.

Have a pint on me, mate.

[mcdowell42]

Am I seeing love for Harry redknapp on here again ,haven't seen tht in a while well not since a certain poster on here was exiled,


I read you loud and clear stevo has my old sparring partner reappeared i wonder.

[OneBardGooner]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1q0qu3X ... k8Cxc8_aKX

[SteveO 35]

ONE ARSENE WENGER......THERE'S ONLY ONE ARSENE WENGER

[OneBardGooner]

Should anyone want to check back on the results/scores of the season just gone.....though of course the times when we got well and truly raped by $hitty, the victims and chavscum are indlibly stamped in most Gooners minds - those who are not wearing the AKB special Rose Tinted Specs that is!

http://www.arsenal.com/fixtures/first-team/results

[LaughingGooner]

Is funny, but should we win the League next season, all the Wenger haters will resort to crying 'but he's only won one title in ten years.....'

They'll never be happy until he leaves, whatever he achieves in the coming years..........

[Theoperator]

IF IF IF

Trouble is its less likely next season, with Chavs and Citehs managers established dont you agree.

And what about the transfer windows, especially the January one, where all we got was a man with a broken back. IF we had done better then we would have been in with a chance possibly but whos fault is it that we didnt despite clearly in need of at least one decent striker for 2 years

[Ed Hunter The Gooner]

Is funny, but should we win the League next season, all the Wenger haters will resort to crying 'but he's only won one title in ten years.....'

They'll never be happy until he leaves, whatever he achieves in the coming years..........

Great post mate! Seriously, what makes you think we'd had even the slightest chance to win fuck all next year? As previous poster said, it's only if this and if that and has been like that for 9 long years. There isn't and hasn't been anything else than big IF's.

[LaughingGooner]

You're arguing against yourself.....
You know exactly what's going to happen......we'll win nothing, Wenger will sign no one, crap tactics, injury crisis, blah, blah, blah.....

[Skooner]

Is funny, but should we win the League next season, all the Wenger haters will resort to crying 'but he's only won one title in ten years.....'

They'll never be happy until he leaves, whatever he achieves in the coming years..........

I doubt that very much.

But what isn't funny is that some of us have been saying 2008 that he wasn't up to it and we were told we were 2 or 3 players from being a great team then and every year since then and I expect to hear that line every year until he leaves, almost certainly having not won any more leagues or in Europe.

IF we win it next year (which I don't see happening), the vast majority of those who have been against Wenger would be delighted and accept that he has done a great job that season. I wouldn't change my mind that he has made far too many mistakes for far too long but it's impossible not applaud a manager for winning the league and accept he is the right person at that point in time to lead the club.

Do you think supporters that want Wenger out enjoy hating him? Surely all everyone wants is a successful team.