THE WENGER THREAD

[flash gunner]

SteveO have you had the BBQ yet? Please don't tell me ive missed it

[SteveO 35]

SteveO have you had the BBQ yet? Please don't tell me ive missed it

No mate - just confirming the entertainment list.....Away Boyz on standby

Can't finalise the planning without an appearance from guest of honour - Rodders. Anyone seen him lately ?

[kiwomya]

So what's your source for Wenger having money for several years??

Maybe you were told by another forum member.....they all seem In The Know here.....

Clearly Wenger had loads of money in the bank but was happy to compete with Chelsea and City with one hand behind his back....

You said it. He is such an arrogant egotist that yes, he would try to compete without spending, because he is sure his
way is the best way, even though it fails year after year.

As for my source for knowing he had money for several years, well there is the small point of AFC being in the top 15 highest grossing clubs consistantly over the last few years, the ludicrous ticket prices, the huge amounts of sponsorship money rolling in - albeit less than it should have been, due to notoriously poor negotiating team - then there is the merchandise sales.
Oh and the small matter of him paying the many average players huge sums of money for over long contracts and being happy to take around £70,000 000 in wages for himself over the last 10 years.
I could go on, but I reckon I might have answered your question.

You didn't respond to my other points by the way. Any reason??

You've chosen to ignore the building and paying off of the Emirates, why's that?

The stadium that was going to increase revenue and therefore our ability to compete with the elite?

That stadium?

Nope, not forgotten it. As Mr.T 's links have pointed out, Gazidis frequently made clear how the money has always been available. Kind of makes a mockery of the stadium argument that AKB's throw around to back up the failures of the last few years.

The Wenger apologists choose to "ignore" things. The WOB's tend to remember things.

Right OK. A lot of time on here is spent looking back with a bag full of fucking hindsight. What do you want to happen now, in 2014?

We don't spend big money (and apparently never would under Wenger) and we sign Ozil for 42M. We won't win another trophy (and apparently never would again under Wenger) and we win the FA Cup.

[flash gunner]

SteveO have you had the BBQ yet? Please don't tell me ive missed it

No mate - just confirming the entertainment list.....Away Boyz on standby

Can't finalise the planning without an appearance from guest of honour - Rodders. Anyone seen him lately ?

he upon the news of the 3 year deal for Mr. Knows

[Brady's left peg]

So what's your source for Wenger having money for several years??

Maybe you were told by another forum member.....they all seem In The Know here.....

Clearly Wenger had loads of money in the bank but was happy to compete with Chelsea and City with one hand behind his back....

You said it. He is such an arrogant egotist that yes, he would try to compete without spending, because he is sure his
way is the best way, even though it fails year after year.

As for my source for knowing he had money for several years, well there is the small point of AFC being in the top 15 highest grossing clubs consistantly over the last few years, the ludicrous ticket prices, the huge amounts of sponsorship money rolling in - albeit less than it should have been, due to notoriously poor negotiating team - then there is the merchandise sales.
Oh and the small matter of him paying the many average players huge sums of money for over long contracts and being happy to take around £70,000 000 in wages for himself over the last 10 years.
I could go on, but I reckon I might have answered your question.

You didn't respond to my other points by the way. Any reason??

You've chosen to ignore the building and paying off of the Emirates, why's that?

The stadium that was going to increase revenue and therefore our ability to compete with the elite?

That stadium?

Nope, not forgotten it. As Mr.T 's links have pointed out, Gazidis frequently made clear how the money has always been available. Kind of makes a mockery of the stadium argument that AKB's throw around to back up the failures of the last few years.

The Wenger apologists choose to "ignore" things. The WOB's tend to remember things.

Right OK. A lot of time on here is spent looking back with a bag full of fucking hindsight. What do you want to happen now, in 2014?

We don't spend big money (and apparently never would under Wenger) and we sign Ozil for 42M. We won't win another trophy (and apparently never would again under Wenger) and we win the FA Cup.

Blimey...... one good season in the last nine and all is fucking forgiven!

We don't spend big money (and apparently never would under Wenger) and we sign Ozil for 42M. ...
There is a very simple answer to this... Anybody reading various social media outlets last summer would of been acutely aware of the fans unrest regarding our failure to sign anyone of note, in addition our piss poor performance against Villa underlined that by the way a chorus of boo's echoed around the bowl. The club knew they had to do something to appease the fans... hence the signing of Ozil. Even though we were looking for a striker.
We won't win another trophy (and apparently never would again under Wenger) and we win the FA Cup.
Even Wenger wasn't stupid enough not to realise the importance of winning a trophy... any trophy. With a couple of tough draws meaning he had to field a strong team in the earlier rounds, so in effect being forced to take the competition seriously. Not forgetting Wigan in the semi and Hull in the final helping us out too.
Some of you really do need to bin the rose tinted Wengerspecs!

[kiwomya]

The point I was trying to make is that some things have obviously changed for the better in a couple of areas. I see the mere suggestion has been shat on with the usual copy/paste response that's repeated on every page of this thread.

[OneBardGooner]

We haven't had a post from Rodders in a while now...I wonder if the wenger re-signing news has done for him?!

[Brady's left peg]

The point I was trying to make is that some things have obviously changed for the better in a couple of areas. I see the mere suggestion has been shat on with the usual copy/paste response that's repeated on every page of this thread.

I think the very reason we have to repeat ourselves so often is because many of you refuse to acknowledge any of Wengers failings.
Was I happy we signed Ozil...Yes. Am I happy we won the FA Cup... Yes. Was I happy that for at least part of the season we were top of the pile... Yes I was. But there are many, many reasons for me to want Wenger out... He has been caught with his pants down too many times tactically against big clubs in meaningful games. His substitutions on more occasions than not are like for like and not game changing, some of them just beggars belief. He has freely admitted to overplaying players but is then taken aback when they get injured, and to top it all his misplaced loyalty to players (if you can call them that) such as Bendtner and Denilson. Not forgetting the ridiculously high wages he put them on.
These are just a few reasons, there are many more believe me. So yes some things have improved but many of the old failings are still evident.

[Brady's left peg]

We haven't had a post from Rodders in a while now...I wonder if the wenger re-signing news has done for him?!

Probably sitting in a dark corner somewhere in a local asylum, gently rocking back and forth while constantly muttering 3 years, 3 years, 3 fucking years!

[OneBardGooner]

We haven't had a post from Rodders in a while now...I wonder if the wenger re-signing news has done for him?!

Probably sitting in a dark corner somewhere in a local asylum, gently rocking back and forth while constantly muttering 3 years, 3 years, 3 fucking years and £24 million, £24 fucking Million! !

A slight addition there mate!

[Ikechukwu1]

Poor Arsene and all that oil money and financial constraints...it's almost as if all that oil money Birmingham had stopped him beating them in a cup final, musta been Bayern's oil money that sees them humiliate us every year, musta been oil money that saw Everton dick us 3-0 and of course Alex Ferguson's oil riches saw us lose 8-2! BLOODY OIL MONEY. What a disadvantage Arsene has been on....thankfully he's a generous giving man who does us suuuuuuuuch a huge favour by taking nearly £8mil every year for errrrr....oh yeah winning 1 FA Cup in 9 years!

[mcdowell42]

[kiwomya]

Poor Arsene and all that oil money and financial constraints...it's almost as if all that oil money Birmingham had stopped him beating them in a cup final, musta been Bayern's oil money that sees them humiliate us every year, musta been oil money that saw Everton dick us 3-0 and of course Alex Ferguson's oil riches saw us lose 8-2! BLOODY OIL MONEY. What a disadvantage Arsene has been on....thankfully he's a generous giving man who does us suuuuuuuuch a huge favour by taking nearly £8mil every year for errrrr....oh yeah winning 1 FA Cup in 9 years!

I was just about to post the exact same thing! great minds.

[DB10GOONER]

thank fuck US Martin is banned, imagine him in here -

You're welcome.

[DB10GOONER]

So what's your source for Wenger having money for several years??

Maybe you were told by another forum member.....they all seem In The Know here.....

Clearly Wenger had loads of money in the bank but was happy to compete with Chelsea and City with one hand behind his back....

You said it. He is such an arrogant egotist that yes, he would try to compete without spending, because he is sure his
way is the best way, even though it fails year after year.

As for my source for knowing he had money for several years, well there is the small point of AFC being in the top 15 highest grossing clubs consistantly over the last few years, the ludicrous ticket prices, the huge amounts of sponsorship money rolling in - albeit less than it should have been, due to notoriously poor negotiating team - then there is the merchandise sales.
Oh and the small matter of him paying the many average players huge sums of money for over long contracts and being happy to take around £70,000 000 in wages for himself over the last 10 years.
I could go on, but I reckon I might have answered your question.

You didn't respond to my other points by the way. Any reason??

You've chosen to ignore the building and paying off of the Emirates, why's that?

Because during the building and paying off of the stadium we were paying huge unearned wages to average and poor players, then extending their contracts and giving them pay rises. So how exactly did the stadium impact on our inability to sign better players? The money was there, it was mis-spent by Arsene to develop his vanity project. The same Arsene that was taking home £7million a year and approved the extended contracts and pay rises whilst claiming we couldn't compete financially.